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  • Member since
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Thoughts on selling...
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 11:47 AM

The post regarding stashes has me thinking. I have 30 or so kits I'd like move out. If I could sell them-- great. I would also donate some as long as they go to a good cause -- and not to someone that will turn them around for a profit on my dime.

Recently, I attempted to sell a kit on Ebay-- to get my feet wet. My experience was not good. I had a bidder willing to buy, only to have another bidder offer much more. When time came to buy it (the higher bidder) -- it was complete silence. The guy stiffed me. I reposted it-- again-- a person offered way more than my asking price. I write the guy if this is a serious bid and it was again ... complete silence. I tell ya. I suspect the guy had the same kit for sale and he was doing all he could to torpedo my sale. I am not savvay with the games played there and I basically just let my sale expire. 

Thoughts?

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 11:58 AM

That very possible what happened on eBay. You might look into reporting that bidder as a shady customer due to those antics. I know that there seem to be folks there who corner the market on particular kits, then offer them up for ridiculously high prices for the same kits. I realize that is capitalism at its'worst, but it's also annoying. You can also offer up your kits at a "buy it now" price, once you figure out a price that you're willing to accept for the kit. That will reduce the likelihood of such shenanigans. 
Another option is to find modeler oriented sites such as Scalemates or Kitmaker, which allow sales on the forums, and post your kits for sale there.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:52 PM

Hey Stik, thanks for responding. If I had known better, I would have accepted the first offer. He seemed legit. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is. I went against my instincts.

I did report the guy to EBay. I heard boo back from eBay. Maybe they acted on him, maybe not. I will never know.

Buy Now is exactly what I hoped and tried to do. That would have made this so much easier. Here is the thing. The eBay system would not allow me to post it as such. It forced me into the bidding game. I did some searches on that and from what I gathered, eBay will not allow you to use that option until you estblish a selling track record. Shaking my head. 

I will consider your other sell options.

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 2:34 PM

Tal Afar Dave who is on here off and on is a teacher at a military school for boys and does model building with his students.  I donated a dozen or so kits a while back.

I've had success on ebay selling kits, but I rarely do it.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 5:40 PM

keavdog

Tal Afar Dave who is on here off and on is a teacher at a military school for boys and does model building with his students.  I donated a dozen or so kits a while back.

I've had success on ebay selling kits, but I rarely do it.

 

Being a military school is the primary interest military models? Pretty much model cars is what have.

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 6:19 PM

I sent planes and subs, but being a hobby club I'm sure the students would like cars as well.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 6:48 PM

Bakster, 

I'm like you, trying to downsize my stash to help with the cost of college for two kids.I haven't tried any on-line sites like ebay or others.  I've sold a lot of kits as a vendor at local contests and by word of mouth.  If you're thinking of donating kits, there is an organization that accepts kits for service men and women overseas and for vets who are home recovering from injuries that would gladly accept your kits too.

tjs

TJS

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Posted by Humper on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 5:12 AM

Hi Bakster, I'm surprised TB hasn't responded yet LOL. Far as donating goes, I'm sure he can help with that. I'll probably talk to him tonight/tomorrow, if he hasn't seen this today I'll bring it to his attention.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:36 AM

I sell on eBay, FaceBook and model forums.

A great deal can become a bad deal. Recently, someone on a model site was looking for a tank kit I had. They probably go for $40, I said I'd sell it for $30 and tossed in photoetch I had for the kit.

He's getting a deal and I'm getting rid of a kit I'll never get to...if the buyer was in the US.

Shipping to Canada is $22 for no insurance and $43 with insurance.

So, now it's $52 or $73 for a kit worth $40 with a $6 PE set. That's not a deal.

Beware of folks who don't list their state or country.

And if they don't want insurance. Once it leaves our borders, it's out of the post offices' hands. If they say they didn't get it, you've lost the kit and the cost of shipping and the money paid.

You'd be better off throwing it in the garbage than sometimes trying to ship overseas. You'd still be out the kit, but you wouldn't have wasted time and money mailing it.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 3:26 PM

Rob Gronovius

I sell on eBay, FaceBook and model forums.

A great deal can become a bad deal. Recently, someone on a model site was looking for a tank kit I had. They probably go for $40, I said I'd sell it for $30 and tossed in photoetch I had for the kit.

He's getting a deal and I'm getting rid of a kit I'll never get to...if the buyer was in the US.

Shipping to Canada is $22 for no insurance and $43 with insurance.

So, now it's $52 or $73 for a kit worth $40 with a $6 PE set. That's not a deal.

Beware of folks who don't list their state or country.

And if they don't want insurance. Once it leaves our borders, it's out of the post offices' hands. If they say they didn't get it, you've lost the kit and the cost of shipping and the money paid.

You'd be better off throwing it in the garbage than sometimes trying to ship overseas. You'd still be out the kit, but you wouldn't have wasted time and money mailing it.

 

Rob-- yeah-- that is what I was afraid of. What a shame that a person can't reliably and safely sell things to recoup a little. And at the same time-- another person gets what they want. All that you noted plus what I have already experienced makes it not worth the effort. 

Thanks for sharing that.  Good info!

 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 3:37 PM

Humper

Hi Bakster, I'm surprised TB hasn't responded yet LOL. Far as donating goes, I'm sure he can help with that. I'll probably talk to him tonight/tomorrow, if he hasn't seen this today I'll bring it to his attention.

 

 

Oh boy... Indifferent

 

I need to review what I have. Might not be worth the effort to even donate.

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Posted by Omni Yomni on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 5:27 PM

Bakster

The post regarding stashes has me thinking. I have 30 or so kits I'd like move out. If I could sell them-- great. I would also donate some as long as they go to a good cause -- and not to someone that will turn them around for a profit on my dime.

Recently, I attempted to sell a kit on Ebay-- to get my feet wet. My experience was not good. I had a bidder willing to buy, only to have another bidder offer much more. When time came to buy it (the higher bidder) -- it was complete silence. The guy stiffed me. I reposted it-- again-- a person offered way more than my asking price. I write the guy if this is a serious bid and it was again ... complete silence. I tell ya. I suspect the guy had the same kit for sale and he was doing all he could to torpedo my sale. I am not savvay with the games played there and I basically just let my sale expire. 

Thoughts?

 

 

That does sound shady. I've never sold anything on ebay, and I'm not really into it. With my few experiences buying on ebay, I'm doing good just to get what I actually ordered. I'd be leery of selling overseas too, for the costs. There's always the local route, you could get a vendor table at a show. But I reckon it depends on the size/location of the show and the time involved. 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 5:55 PM

Omni Yomni

 

 
Bakster

The post regarding stashes has me thinking. I have 30 or so kits I'd like move out. If I could sell them-- great. I would also donate some as long as they go to a good cause -- and not to someone that will turn them around for a profit on my dime.

Recently, I attempted to sell a kit on Ebay-- to get my feet wet. My experience was not good. I had a bidder willing to buy, only to have another bidder offer much more. When time came to buy it (the higher bidder) -- it was complete silence. The guy stiffed me. I reposted it-- again-- a person offered way more than my asking price. I write the guy if this is a serious bid and it was again ... complete silence. I tell ya. I suspect the guy had the same kit for sale and he was doing all he could to torpedo my sale. I am not savvay with the games played there and I basically just let my sale expire. 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

That does sound shady. I've never sold anything on ebay, and I'm not really into it. With my few experiences buying on ebay, I'm doing good just to get what I actually ordered. I'd be leery of selling overseas too, for the costs. There's always the local route, you could get a vendor table at a show. But I reckon it depends on the size/location of the show and the time involved. 

 

Shady is a good way to put it. I must say, I have had very good luck buying things off Ebay. I have not been disappointed, yet. Surprise

 

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Posted by Glamdring on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 8:27 PM

I have successfully sold 25 or 30 kits over the last year and a half on Ebay, I just throw the listings out there as a buy it now and let them revolve until they sell at the price I want or I get a fair offer.  From my recollection, one must have a score at a certain threshold to qualify for the buy it now ability, but it is score as either a buyer or seller.  I don't think it is a very high number either.

 

I have only had one issue to date which was actually my last sale.  It was partially my fault for not paying attention, and something went off with their system.  One of my original listings from way back when some how had the box dimensions and shipping weight reset from what I had measured out when the listing recycled automatically...I ended up having to eat the extra 16 bucks in shipping cost since the Airfix Wasa definitely does not fit in a 7x7x5 box.  

It was a decent lesson in that I shouldn't completely trust the Ebay system.

My real qualm is in their fees.  Getting a little pricy for the privilege of unloading things I can do without.  

Robert

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:57 PM

Bakster

Rob-- yeah-- that is what I was afraid of. What a shame that a person can't reliably and safely sell things to recoup a little. And at the same time-- another person gets what they want. All that you noted plus what I have already experienced makes it not worth the effort. 

Thanks for sharing that.  Good info!

I'm just saying, use some caution. There are plenty of up and up people. I would just suggest sticking to stateside before venturing into overseas sales. And beware when entering into a deal with someone who doesn't throw out where they are located before you even contact them.

Overseas always means multiple trips to the post office to determine shipping, get the forms and then to mail it out. Whereas stateside, you can grab a priority mail flat rate box, stick it in and send it off in one trip.

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 22, 2022 2:05 AM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
Bakster

Rob-- yeah-- that is what I was afraid of. What a shame that a person can't reliably and safely sell things to recoup a little. And at the same time-- another person gets what they want. All that you noted plus what I have already experienced makes it not worth the effort. 

Thanks for sharing that.  Good info!

 

 

I'm just saying, use some caution. There are plenty of up and up people. I would just suggest sticking to stateside before venturing into overseas sales. And beware when entering into a deal with someone who doesn't throw out where they are located before you even contact them.

Overseas always means multiple trips to the post office to determine shipping, get the forms and then to mail it out. Whereas stateside, you can grab a priority mail flat rate box, stick it in and send it off in one trip.

 

Got it. Thanks, Rob.

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 22, 2022 2:08 AM

Glamdring

I have successfully sold 25 or 30 kits over the last year and a half on Ebay, I just throw the listings out there as a buy it now and let them revolve until they sell at the price I want or I get a fair offer.  From my recollection, one must have a score at a certain threshold to qualify for the buy it now ability, but it is score as either a buyer or seller.  I don't think it is a very high number either.

 

I have only had one issue to date which was actually my last sale.  It was partially my fault for not paying attention, and something went off with their system.  One of my original listings from way back when some how had the box dimensions and shipping weight reset from what I had measured out when the listing recycled automatically...I ended up having to eat the extra 16 bucks in shipping cost since the Airfix Wasa definitely does not fit in a 7x7x5 box.  

It was a decent lesson in that I shouldn't completely trust the Ebay system.

My real qualm is in their fees.  Getting a little pricy for the privilege of unloading things I can do without.  

 

I wish I could get access to the buy now function. The whole bidding thing is beyond me. Maybe I will post another model and see what happens. Can't hurt.

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 22, 2022 2:18 AM

Can't hurt.


Well, maybe it can as Rob pointed out. I also wish PM was working here. This stinks we can't take discussions off the main board.

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Posted by missileman2000 on Thursday, September 22, 2022 8:37 AM

If there are contests/shows in your area, most provide tables for a flea market at nominal rates.  Lots of folks get rid of stuff that way.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, September 22, 2022 10:47 AM

missileman2000

If there are contests/shows in your area, most provide tables for a flea market at nominal rates.  Lots of folks get rid of stuff that way.



You may not even need that. If there is a local IPMS, AMPS, or other model club in your area, contact them about offering up your kits for sale at a meeting sometime. Both of the clubs where I was a member back in Orange County had occasional non members show up at meetings with boxes of kits to sell. It's like putting road kill out for the crows... Wink

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, September 23, 2022 8:53 PM

stikpusher

 

 
missileman2000

If there are contests/shows in your area, most provide tables for a flea market at nominal rates.  Lots of folks get rid of stuff that way.

 

You may not even need that. If there is a local IPMS, AMPS, or other model club in your area, contact them about offering up your kits for sale at a meeting sometime. Both of the clubs where I was a member back in Orange County had occasional non members show up at meetings with boxes of kits to sell. It's like putting road kill out for the crows... Wink

 

Yeah, everyone there is quick to exchange someone else's unbuilt stash for their own!

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, September 26, 2022 8:42 PM

eBay is not how it used to be.  I sold and bought many kits and never had a problem. I stopped selling on eBay once they required you to link a bank account and provide one's social security number and issue a 1099. I have also read many complaints from sellers saying eBay doesn't  do much in cases like yours. 
I also have a stash I would like to reduce and will probably end up doing is renting a vendor table at the annual show. The problem is I keep looking at my stash and don't want to sell any of them. Confused

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, September 26, 2022 10:24 PM

I'd also caution sellers that eBay greatly favors the buyer. You send something and the seller says it never arrives. They are getting their money back and you are now out the sold item, cost of shipping and the money you were paid.

Ship stateside (sorry overseas buyers who are on the up and up) and use priority mail with adequate insurance.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 7:11 AM

Rob Gronovius

I'd also caution sellers that eBay greatly favors the buyer. You send something and the seller says it never arrives. They are getting their money back and you are now out the sold item, cost of shipping and the money you were paid.

Ship stateside (sorry overseas buyers who are on the up and up) and use priority mail with adequate insurance.

 

Ditto

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 10:28 AM

plasticjunkie
eBay is not how it used to be.  I sold and bought many kits and never had a problem. I stopped selling on eBay once they required you to link a bank account and provide one's social security number and issue a 1099. 

HECK WITH THAT! Not gonna do that. For me that settles the issue. Ugh.

plasticjunkie
The problem is I keep looking at my stash and don't want to sell any of them.

Laughing. Beer

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 10:31 AM

Rob Gronovius
Yeah, everyone there is quick to exchange someone else's unbuilt stash for their own!

Shaking my head. LOL.  I think the lesson to myself is ... Self--don't buy what you are not ready to build. 

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