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3D printers for home use!
Posted by echolmberg on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 1:31 PM

Hi guys!

For the cost of some of the newer Tamiya, Trumpeter and HK Models releases, you, too, can have your very own desktop 3D printer!

http://cubify.com/cube/index.aspx

http://store.makerbot.com/replicator-404.html

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 1:37 PM
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Posted by PritMar on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 1:49 PM

What model are you considering spending $1,229 on?

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Posted by echolmberg on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:31 PM

PritMar

What model are you considering spending $1,229 on?

LOL!  That was kind of an underhanded reflection on how expensive modern kits have become.  Crying

Does anyone else have the feeling that 3D printers will become as commonplace in the typical household as the "regular" printers are today?  Heck you can buy a computer now and they'll GIVE you a free printer.  Imagine it being like that with 3D printers in the near future!

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:43 PM

I'm holding off buying one until that 3D printer can also replicate food...

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:46 PM

VanceCrozier

I'm holding off buying one until that 3D printer can also replicate food...

When it can replicate a model kit, then i will be impressed. I might finally get that Ju 87C i want.

Is it just me, or is the price of that printer stirring  memories of old threads.

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Posted by Medicman71 on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:53 PM

Bish

 VanceCrozier:

I'm holding off buying one until that 3D printer can also replicate food...

 

When it can replicate a model kit, then i will be impressed. I might finally get that Ju 87C i want.

Is it just me, or is the price of that printer stirring  memories of old threads.

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to go there. I was behaving myself. It was too tempting.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 3:05 PM

Medicman71

 Bish:

 VanceCrozier:

I'm holding off buying one until that 3D printer can also replicate food...

 

When it can replicate a model kit, then i will be impressed. I might finally get that Ju 87C i want.

Is it just me, or is the price of that printer stirring  memories of old threads.

 

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to go there. I was behaving myself. It was too tempting.

I know, i couldn't resist. But i did try and be subtle about it.

beshides, how long before manny comes along.

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Posted by Hercmech on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 3:13 PM

VanceCrozier

I'm holding off buying one until that 3D printer can also replicate food...

Uhhhh cupcakes on demand!


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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 4:50 PM

So much for those custom resin casting companies!

I'm guessing that you'd have to have CAAD along with some sort of 3D scanner to accurately replicate parts? Don't think either one mentioned being able to "copy" something you set on the flatbed (although that would be ridiculously cool, and coming sometime I'm sure!).

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Posted by Fuddy Duddy on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 9:41 PM

My wife's an architect and has used 3D printers for architectural models. The technology is amazing and when the price comes down, it will be an amazing tool for model makers. The time may come where instead of buying a model kit, you will download the 3D CAD file for the 3D printer to fabricate the pieces. 

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Friday, May 4, 2012 4:51 AM

These 3d printers will certainly drop in price. And there are already some companies that use them to produce parts. and models. Just have a look on shapeways.com: http://www.shapeways.com/gallery/miniatures It is all a bit crude and rough now but that will probably improve to.

And Revell Germany believes that in the future you will have a 3d printer in your home and just download there designs. They are actively thinking about how this will change there business model.

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Friday, May 4, 2012 4:52 AM

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Friday, May 4, 2012 5:04 AM

"You wouldnt steal a pizza"

The **** i wouldnt. Download me some pizza. Print out, mmmmmmmm instant awesome.

How long ago were regular paper printers that price?

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, May 4, 2012 7:22 AM

ahhhh - printable pizza. Just load it up with a bottle of Soylent Green & print away....

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Posted by paintsniffer on Friday, May 4, 2012 7:31 AM

I remember not that long ago when these things cost a quarter to a half million dollars, were the size of a refrigerator, and a serious pain in the butt to use.

 

The fact they are small, and down to under $1500 means the aftermarket model parts world is going to change remarkably in the next 5 years.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, May 4, 2012 9:15 AM

I can remember twenty years ago, when personal computers were just getting started, and the first printers (dot matrix or daisy wheel) cost a fortune, and lasers were even more expensive.  But then, everyone with a computer really needed a printer, so prices came down tremendously.   I suppose the market for 3D prototyping machines won't be nearly as great, unless someone can come up with a killer ap for them so  the average folks- not just modelers- see a need for them.

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Posted by paintsniffer on Friday, May 4, 2012 10:31 AM

These things will be more in demand than you think. They aren't needed in every house. How many people really sit around and draw 3D shapes in autocad? However, a lot of small engineering and machine shops, along with anyone else who does 3D design will start picking these things up. Pretty soon they will be under a thousand dollars for a  decent version.

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Posted by PritMar on Friday, May 4, 2012 10:34 AM

The "printing" of models on a 3D printer is quite possible. You would only need 2 "ink cartridges", one for the solid parts and one for the clear parts. It probably would be possible to have multiple materials and "print" the parts in their final colors. Also, the part would not have to be ejected from the mold and much more detail could be created. Mold seams, flash and virtually all other flaws would be a thing of the past.

The manufacturer would probably not want to send the plans and let a person create as many copies of the model as they wanted. There would have to be some way to send the model so it would be "printed" and then be destroyed.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Friday, May 4, 2012 10:40 AM

Not everyone designs in AutoCAD , but purchasing and downloading the finished CAM design ( via a  suitably fast network )  is feasible. Might eventually be another ITunes type download if network bandwidth speeds and prices are reasonable.

Mmmm......Soylent Green pizza ..............

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, May 4, 2012 10:44 AM

Forgive me for being hi-tech challenged,but how can you print a model at home ? what material will it be ? I don't understand what we are talking about here.I need it explained in idiot terms Confused

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Friday, May 4, 2012 10:50 AM
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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, May 4, 2012 10:58 AM

Sprue-ce Goose

 

thank you,that link was interesting and informative.

don't know if this old dog can learn the new tricks though.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Friday, May 4, 2012 12:33 PM

Tojo72

 

 Sprue-ce Goose:

 

 

thank you,that link was interesting and informative.

don't know if this old dog can learn the new tricks though.

Glad it helped.

As for learning new tricks-

may take another five to ten years ( depending on world economic health ) before prices and access bring the process to enough customers that RoG or other model manufacturers begin to seriously consider  offering a few basic  "kits" for sale or download.

Plenty of time to save up and learn.

I believe we will all know 3D printers have gone "mainstream" when contest winners brag they made their own detail parts using those machines.

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Posted by mitsdude on Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:16 AM

After receiving the CAD file from RoG you could also go in and "modify" the designs to produce variations or "what-if's".

One step closer to Star Treks replicator.

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, May 5, 2012 9:45 AM

Sprue-ce Goose

Not everyone designs in AutoCAD , but purchasing and downloading the finished CAM design ( via a  suitably fast network )  is feasible. Might eventually be another ITunes type download if network bandwidth speeds and prices are reasonable.

AutoCAD of course is a very expensive professional CAD program, but Autodesk, the company that sells AutoCAD has a very nice, and much cheaper CAD program called Autosketch.  In spite of the name, it is a full CAD program (though 2D only- no 3D).  Don't know if the files would be compatible with a 3D printer or not (but then there is no guarantee that a .DXF file would be either.  And, for that matter, Autosketch does allow saving in DXF though it is not the native file format and that save as function does sometimes create problems.  Anyway I use Autosketch a lot in my modeling, even for such activities as laying out inkjet decals, or patterns and templates for placing kit decals.

There are even cheaper CAD programs, such as versions of TurboCAD, so I don't think having to have a CAD program will be too big a barrier to serious modelers.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:56 AM

mitsdude

 

One step closer to Star Treks replicator.

 

I wrote about that in another thread...   I can see it now..

"Panzer IV, Ausf F,  2nd Panzer Division, winter camouflage, December 1942, Eastern front., 1/35th scale"...

Phooey to it...

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:46 AM

Hans von Hammer

 

 mitsdude:

 

 

One step closer to Star Treks replicator.

 

 

 

I wrote about that in another thread...   I can see it now..

"Panzer IV, Ausf F,  2nd Panzer Division, winter camouflage, December 1942, Eastern front., 1/35th scale"...

Phooey to it...

 

Probably end up looking like the pre-built display armor models that were sold at Wally-Mart.....

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:52 AM

Don Stauffer

 

 Sprue-ce Goose:

 

Not everyone designs in AutoCAD , but purchasing and downloading the finished CAM design ( via a  suitably fast network )  is feasible. Might eventually be another ITunes type download if network bandwidth speeds and prices are reasonable.

AutoCAD of course is a very expensive professional CAD program, but Autodesk, the company that sells AutoCAD has a very nice, and much cheaper CAD program called Autosketch.  In spite of the name, it is a full CAD program (though 2D only- no 3D).  Don't know if the files would be compatible with a 3D printer or not

Metal working machines need their own software to translate the AutoCad design into machine code that tells the motors on the machines what to do, ie; how many "steps" ( fractions of a turn) to take, how fast to turn and long to run in each direction ( X,Y,Z )

I presume the 3D printers use their own software to interpret the AutoCAD design.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:00 PM

Sprue-ce Goose

 

 Don Stauffer:

 

 

 Sprue-ce Goose:

 

Not everyone designs in AutoCAD , but purchasing and downloading the finished CAM design ( via a  suitably fast network )  is feasible. Might eventually be another ITunes type download if network bandwidth speeds and prices are reasonable.

AutoCAD of course is a very expensive professional CAD program, but Autodesk, the company that sells AutoCAD has a very nice, and much cheaper CAD program called Autosketch.  In spite of the name, it is a full CAD program (though 2D only- no 3D).  Don't know if the files would be compatible with a 3D printer or not

 

 

Metal working machines need their own software to translate the AutoCad design into machine code that tells the motors on the machines what to do, ie; how many "steps" ( fractions of a turn) to take, how fast to turn and long to run in each direction ( X,Y,Z )

I presume the 3D printers use their own software to interpret the AutoCAD design.

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae287/sprue_cegoose/pix/th_Kalashnikitty.jpg

....kinda glad now that I had taken 2 CAD and a CAM course in high school - it could be useful after all!!!

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