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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, October 6, 2015 3:52 AM

GMorrison

 

 

Fun trivia question: Whats the one major sport based on committing a felony?

 

I didn't see an answer to this question. I dunno but I'm interested in hearing the answer. I'll take a guess and say hockey. lol

                   

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Monday, October 5, 2015 10:27 PM

Nope.

This will be the first time.

I'm actually more interested in the engine than the actual car kit.

 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, October 5, 2015 9:32 PM
Have you built the turbine car kit before?

 

 

 Nick.

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  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Monday, October 5, 2015 9:21 PM

Local Hobby Town, Hobby Lobby and Michaels are once again fully stocked with the General Lee kits and some kits were for sale at a local toy and hobby show.

Seems the panic has run it's course as the kits are still in stock after about three weeks.

FWIW: I did see the Revell 1969 Charger ProModeler kit at the toy and hobby show last week for the asking price of $25.00- still there when I left.

I bought a 1/25 JoHan Chrysler Turbine car kit at the show.

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Posted by AstralJollyRoger on Monday, September 14, 2015 1:14 AM

I just picked up the Dukes of Hazzard General Lee, it's an MPC 1/25 kit. I was the only one they had, so I got it. The kit fas the flag decal inside however it's not pictered on the box.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Friday, September 11, 2015 7:20 PM

OctaneOrange

 

 
Sprue-ce Goose

.....if anyone sees 1/16 General Lee kits on e-bay and the seller is in Northern Illinois......chances are it is that guy.

 

 

to be fair, that kit does look good ON THE BOX (the kit however is attrocious)

 

Thanks for the forum hyperlink.

I noted that one builder had to re-engineer the chassis.

As the parts of the 1/25 scale kit are inaccurate and the Revell 1969 kit appears to be OOP, I am thinking that the Round Two kit would be better off built up as a Chip Foose style vehicle.Hmm

No Confederate flag decals, of course.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:12 PM

I had nothing to do with it...

You mean Warner Bros. (?)

I was just thinking the other day, with all of this talk of preserving Southern Heritage...

William Faulkner, Lillian Hellman, Tennessee Williams, Louis Armstrong, Paul Prudhomme, Archie Manning. So much contribution to American History.

Shelby Foote, Lyndon Johnson, Douglas MacArthur.

Arguably our best music, our best literature, our best soldiers, our best food and our best sports teams.

Fun trivia question: Whats the one major sport based on committing a felony?

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:02 PM

Interesting article; thanks, Spru-ce, for posting it.

Personally, I don't disagree with the decision of the museum director. That a Confederate flag was used to decorate that car is indeed a part of history (though a pretty trivial one).

The article also clarifies why the kits with flags on them are no longer available. Don't blame Round 2, or MPC, or the government, or the protestors in South Carolina. Blame Warner Bros. - which, I think we may assume, made a corporate decision that it thought was in the best interest of the company.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:58 AM
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Posted by OctaneOrange on Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:55 AM

Sprue-ce Goose

.....if anyone sees 1/16 General Lee kits on e-bay and the seller is in Northern Illinois......chances are it is that guy.

to be fair, that kit does look good ON THE BOX (the kit however is attrocious)

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, September 8, 2015 8:19 AM

tankerbuilder

NO ;

    The kids I know don't even know what a Cowboy is and they think the Indians are from Mumbai ! ( I know , I know , that's correct on today's maps - Used to be Bombay though )

 

 

Sad, but true TB....

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Tuesday, September 8, 2015 8:06 AM

NO ;

    The kids I know don't even know what a Cowboy is and they think the Indians are from Mumbai ! ( I know , I know , that's correct on today's maps - Used to be Bombay though )

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Monday, September 7, 2015 10:39 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

Well, I did make a quickie stop to a local Hobby Lobby this morning and lo and behold - the naked 1/16 scale (?) General Lee on display. 

  Pretty pathetic for the company to release it without the stars and bars on the box cover. Makes you wonder if it does indeed include the Confederate flag decal inside the kit.

 

After seeing your post, I visited the local Hobby Lobby and did see both the 1/25 scale snap tite and 1/16 scale General Lee kits back in stock.

As a matter of fact, there are a LOT of 1/25 scale General Lee snap tite kits in stores right now.

No matter.

Anyone can buy a kit and burn it in front of a state capitol in protest-

but the EPA is gonna get ya for polution violations...Whistling

I haven't opened either of the current boxings that have restocked the shelves but I do know the 1/16 scale kit I bought a month ago does have the dreaded flag decal - ready to leap out of the box at any moment like an Alien Face Hugger - so beware ! SurpriseWhistling

Per the only build article I have been able locate on the snap tite kit

( Scale Auto Magazine forum) : be afraid be very afraid.

The box does include the Confederate flag...........................

but the author states he made his own decals because the kit decals are not accurate. Surprise

The author also stated that the kit wheels, hood and grille are still wrong.  Bang Head

If you can find a Revell 1/25 1969 Dodge Charger, buy it instead of the Round Two model.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Monday, September 7, 2015 11:22 AM

Well, I did make a quickie stop to a local Hobby Lobby this morning and lo and behold - the naked 1/16 scale (?) General Lee on display. 

 

 Pretty pathetic for the company to release it without the stars and bars on the box cover. Makes you wonder if it does indeed include the Confederate flag decal inside the kit.

I did set my sights on a couple of kits for future stash though. They had the USS Kitty Hawk carrier Academy kit as well for $29.99.

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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, September 6, 2015 6:18 PM

Regarding the article about the bishop that GM quoted -

I, for one, am thoroughly sick of the term "politically correct." It has, if I'm not mistaken, been around at least since the Reagan years, when there was a widespread reaction against his conservative policies among educators, authors, and columnists. (They obviously didn't comprise a majority; Reagan got re-elected by the biggest margin in history.)

I have the distinct feeling that the tables have turned in the past few years. The way to be "politically correct" nowadays seems to be to oppose everything Obama and the Democrats favor. (Walk into a bar and say: "I like Obamacare," or "I think Donald Trump is an idiot," and watch what happens.)

In the past thirty years or so I've known a few people who, mainly because they either don't have the sense or don't want to make the effort to form their own opinions on issues, have jumped on the bandwagon of every liberal cause they've heard about. Nowadays, the same thing is happening on the other side. (It seems to be literally true: anything the President likes, the Republicans and the "politically incorrect" have to oppose. And the oratory they employ is, in a vast number of cases, abysmally stupid.)

A lot of people, if they asked me for my opinions (which few people do), probably would find that I line up with the "politically correct" side - to the extent that there is such a thing - fairly frequently. But not always. I thought the removal of the Confederate flag from the pole in front of the SC State House was a wise move. And I'm as sure as I can be that TV Land's decision to cancel "The Dukes of Hazard," along with MPC's decision to take the flag off its "General Lee" model (which, by the way, it did several years ago), was a marketing decision. (I'd like to think it also had something to do with the fact that the show was junk.) I also have big reservations about the European laws that keep swastikas off scale models. (Big caveat: I'm not Jewish, or German, or French, or Dutch, etc.) And I certainly want to see Confederate flags in museums, and on Civil War ship models, etc.

But I sure wish that label would die out. People ought to study issues and make up their own minds about them - not deliberately seek out the position that's "politically incorrect." And that a group within the Catholic Church would claim that "political correctness" has a connection to church employees' salaries is deeply disturbing.

I happen to be of the opinion that public school teachers in North Carolina are scandalously underpaid. I don't take that position because it's "politically correct"; I take it because it's so obviously true. And I would object to any implication that my opinions are influenced one way or the other by "the politically correct crowd."

I say bravo to the bishop. He shouldn't have had to make that argument - but I'm glad he did. And thanks to GM for posting it.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, September 6, 2015 5:06 PM

Ahh, the 1/16 MPC kit would make sense. Didn't know it existed.

I too wonder what he paid. Judging by the his contented smile, it wasn't too much (far as he was concerned)

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, September 6, 2015 1:57 PM

Well, I suppose you weren't too far off considering that the roof top Confederate flag "sold" the model. Surprise

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, September 6, 2015 1:43 PM

"Just shows how far society has tumbled when a naked General is wandering the aisles of a store - especially that one."

Good one Goose! Maybe I should have said partially clothed!Confused

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, September 6, 2015 11:47 AM

Greg

At the nationals last month, I saw a happy fellow with one. The box was HUGE, and now I wish I'd have gone up and been nosey, I can't imagine what scale or which kit it was.

 

I presume you may have seen the MPC 1/16 scale General Lee kit in his possession.
I am more curious how much that happy man paid for the kit.
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One local Hobby Lobby checkout clerk told me someone purchased four of those 1/16 scale kits one day; only allowed to obtain a 40 pct. discount for one of the four kits.
Presumably, he is more than making back his money on resale.
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I wonder if the kit will demand as much on evil bay as the old 1/25 AMC Javelin kit.Hmm
 
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, September 6, 2015 10:58 AM

plasticjunkie

Hobby Looby has the naked General Lee back in stock. 

Just shows how far society has tumbled when a naked General is wandering the aisles of a store - especially that one.Whistling

Heck !

Only just Friday I saw a partially naked Dodge Charger at a local car show:

no front bumper, grille, interior carpeting, windshield glass, rear window or trim;  steering wheel incomplete.

Steel fenders looked so perfect, I must presume someone makes replacements for car restorers.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, September 6, 2015 10:51 AM

In that case, it seems only proper that the employees packaging the General Lee kits get a raise in pay.Big Smile

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, September 6, 2015 10:46 AM

plasticjunkie

Hobby Looby has the naked General Lee back in stock. I quite don't understand the reasoning of removing a flag from a freaking model! It's still the Genetal Lee.

Yes I know they are jumping on the politically correct bandwagon along with the rest of the crowd.

Political correctness — swallowing hard

Just because something is politically correct doesn’t mean that it might not also be correct. Sometimes we have to swallow hard to accept truth.

Some years ago, I served on a priests’ council, an advisory board to the bishop in a Roman Catholic diocese. The bishop, while strongly conservative by temperament, was a deeply principled man who did not let his natural temperament or his spontaneous feelings dictate his decisions. His decisions he made on principle, and sometimes that meant he had to swallow hard.

At one point, for example, he found himself under strong pressure to raise the salaries of lay employees in the diocese. The pressure was coming from a very vocal group of social justice advocates who were quoting the Church’s social doctrines in the face of protests that the diocese could not afford to pay the kind of wages they were demanding.  

Their cause also leaned on political correctness. This didn’t make things easy for the bishop, given his conservative temperament and conservative friends.

But he was, as I said, a man of principle. He came one morning to the priests’ council and asked the priests to give him a mandate to give the diocesan employees the wage increase they were demanding. The priests’ council told him that they would not bow to political correctness and voted against it.

A month later, the bishop came back to the priest’s council and asked the priests again for their support, prefacing his request by telling the priests that, should they vote against it again, he would do it on his own, invoking executive privilege.

One of the priests, a close personal friend of his, said: “You’re only asking us to do this because it’s politically correct.” The bishop answered him:

“No, we’re not doing this because it’s politically correct. We’re doing it because it is correct!  We can’t preach the Gospel with integrity if we don’t live it out ourselves. We need to pay a living wage because that’s what the Gospel and Catholic social doctrine demands — not because it’s politically correct.”

In saying this, the bishop was swallowing hard: swallowing his own temperament, swallowing his friend’s irritation and swallowing his own irritation at having to bow to something that was presented as politically correct. But principle trumped feeling.

And principle needs to trump feeling because, so often, when something comes at us with the label that this must be accepted because it is politically correct, our spontaneous reaction is negative and we are tempted, out of emotional spite, to reject it simply because of the cloak it’s wearing and the voices who are advocating for it.  

I’ve had my own share of experiences with this, in dealing with my emotions in the face of political correctness. Teaching in some pretty sensitive classrooms through the years, where sometimes every word is a potential landmine that might blow up in your face, it’s easy to fall into an unhealthy sensitivity fatigue.

I remember once, frustrated with the hypersensitivity of some students (and the pompousness evident inside that sensitivity), I told a student to “lighten up.” He immediately accused me of being a racist on the basis of that remark.

It’s easy then to react with spite rather than empathy. But, like the bishop whose story I cited earlier, we need to be principled and mature enough to not let emotion and temperament sway our perspective and our decisions.

Just because a truth comes cloaked in political correctness and we hear it voiced in self-righteousness doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t the truth. Sometimes we just have to swallow hard, eat our pride and irritation, and accept the truth of what is being presented.

Political correctness is normally irritating, exaggerated, unbalanced, pompous and lacking in nuance — but it serves an important purpose. We need this mirror: How we spontaneously speak about others flushes out a lot of our blind spots.

Among other things, political correctness, as a check on our language, helps keep civil discourse civil, something in short supply today. Talk radio, cable television, blogs, tweets and editorials are today more and more being characterized by a language that’s rude, insensitive and flat-out disrespectful and, in its very disdain for political correctness, is, ironically, the strongest argument for political correctness.

Politics, church and community at every level today need to be much more careful about language, careful about being politically correct, because the violence in our culture very much mirrors the violence in our language.

Moreover, attentiveness to language helps, long-term, to shape our interior attitudes and widen our empathy. Words work strongly to shape attitudes, and if we allow our words to chip away at elementary courtesy and respect and allow them to offend others, we help spawn a culture of disrespect.

Political correctness comes to us from both the left and the right. Both liberals and conservatives help dictate it and both can be equally self-righteous and bullying.

But we must always be conscious that just because something is politically correct doesn’t mean that it also might not be correct. Sometimes we just need to swallow hard and accept the truth.

 

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, September 6, 2015 10:39 AM

At the nationals last month, I saw a happy fellow with one. The box was HUGE, and now I wish I'd have gone up and been nosey, I can't imagine what scale or which kit it was.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, September 6, 2015 10:03 AM

Hobby Looby has the naked General Lee back in stock. I quite don't understand the reasoning of removing a flag from a freaking model! It's still the Genetal Lee.

Yes I know they are jumping on the politically correct bandwagon along with the rest of the crowd.

 

 

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, September 6, 2015 9:46 AM

I haven't checked my local Michael's nor Hobby Lobby stores yet but will soon. I know I stopped by the HL couple weeks back and shelves weren't completely restocked yet.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, September 6, 2015 9:41 AM

I kinda suspect anyone who might have wanted a kit has now purchased a copy.

 

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Posted by nicknkim14 on Sunday, September 6, 2015 12:26 AM

The 3 Michaels stores I frequent all have at least a couple 1/25 kits on there shelves(queens ny)

plastic addict

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, September 5, 2015 9:12 PM

ikar01

I went to Colonial Photo & Hobby here in town Saturday and there was just a hole where it might have been.  I'm not holding my breath on seeing one anytime soon. ...............

 

Outa curiosity, anyone check their local shops to see if the kits were replenished after all the panic buying?

My local Hobby Town has more than replenished their supply of both the 1/25 ( Snap Tite ) and the 1/16 scale kits.

So far after more than a month, I do not notice any reduction in stock; seems to be the same number in stock as last month.

Anyone else finding the same thing at their local stores? 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 9, 2015 10:39 PM

Beauregard..................come heah, boy !

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 9, 2015 10:08 PM

good ole Bugs and Sam...

 

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