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  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:08 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

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For those who hated Dukes of Hazzard show, relax. It's a show and a fun one filled with comedy and action. Nothing was offensive in the story lines. ............. Don't tell me you never liked seeing Daisy Duke in her short shorts. You know you have.

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Interestingly, I was just reading this item about Daisy's shorts:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078607/trivia

When network executives saw her wearing the shorts, they had a fit and told the producers she couldn't wear them. After arguing back and forth, the executives allowed her to wear them on one condition: she had to wear pantyhose beneath them so nothing would accidentally be revealed. Instead of diverting attention from her outfit, as the executives hoped, the hose highlighted her long, shapely legs, making Bach a '70s TV sex symbol." 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:02 PM

Paintswithbrush - Not for nothing there are people who's been around long enough to know how to think rationally even during the controversial subjects.

For those who hated Dukes of Hazzard show, relax. It's a show and a fun one filled with comedy and action. Nothing was offensive in the story lines.  I was a die-hard fan of the show during my youth. Don't tell me you never liked seeing Daisy Duke in her short shorts. You know you have.

I read online this afternoon, a majority of folks down south look at the Confederate flag with pride due to the history behind it. Not as a view to offend  anyone. I live in New York State and have see my fair share of the rebel flag decals on trucks and cars. Does it offends me? Not really nor does folks care.

The state of South Carolina seriously needs to get over themselves and deal with the real problems at hand like homelessness, highway improvement, lowering taxes, illegal drugs, illegal immigrants, etc... I'm talking about REAL problems, not a flag from history's past. Admit it, it's just too far gone and too late. You can't stop people from displaying the rebel flag on their own property.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:54 PM

Well, I wouldn't know about those kits..................it seems that a 1975 AMC Matador was made by AMT.................................http://www.modelroundup.com/product-p/amt-8116sd.htm

.....................anybody could build one of those with a flag on top and hide the flag with a jet engine and airplane wings like in the James Bond movie........nobody would be any wiser...............Whistling
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Posted by CBHusky on Thursday, July 2, 2015 8:10 PM

I just got a General Lee today..........and I wasn't looking very hard either. Just went to my local hobby store to browse around and noticed a MPC/Round 2  1/16 scale General Lee sitting on the shelf. With all the flap going on recently about the Confederate flag symbol, I figured I'd better pick up this kit before it's gone for good. Only cost me $40 too. I'm not a car builder, so I'll just keep the box unopened and keep the kit for collector value.......if any. It was also the last General Lee in the store too. Store clerk told me it was highly doubtful he'd get any more in.

Battleship modelers build with BIGGER guns!
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  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:41 PM

CodyJ

Correct!   Like this ONE!!!

LOL...........................and that cow looks familiar........................
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Posted by CodyJ on Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:17 PM

Correct!   Like this ONE!!!

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:09 PM

PaintsWithBrush

What part of the moderators locking the first thread about the confederate rag didn't sink in?

Naw...................topic is now AMC Matadors that fly..................
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:08 PM

CodyJ

LOL A google search found this!  MATADOR

Gawd !
Somebody actually made a model of that ! LOL 
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Posted by CodyJ on Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:06 PM

LOL A google search found this!  MATADOR

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:06 PM

PaintsWithBrush

What part of the moderators locking the first thread about the confederate rag didn't sink in?

Hopefully it doesn't reach that point. I'd just like the availability of the kit to be there when some of the younger crowd (as well as folks like me who want to build one) to be readily available. That's mostly why I started the thread. Just concern for the kit .....as well as the show , however goofy some may think it to be. It's something I grew up with and never associated it with anything wrong. Just country dudes having good clean fun. Just kinda sucks that it's a casualty of  a terrible wrong doing.

                   

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:04 PM

CodyJ

SpruceGoose-  Yeah I bet it was!  LOL That was an epic part!   Sherrif: "You're not gonna..."   Bond: "Oh yes I am Boy!" Big Smile

Was that the one with the flying AMC Matador?

Yep, that's the movie ..................LOL..........Surprise
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Posted by CodyJ on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:58 PM

SpruceGoose-  Yeah I bet it was!  LOL That was an epic part!   Sherrif: "You're not gonna..."   Bond: "Oh yes I am Boy!" Big Smile

Was that the one with the flying AMC Matador?

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:56 PM

CodyJ

I think another thing people forget it that the flag is there because of the car's name! .................

Considering Southern white feelings about the " march to the sea" , I think a car named the "General Sheridan" woulda engendered more anger than Grant...just sayin'Whistling
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Maybe the flag was put on the car's roof so the director's helicopter could keep track of it..............Hmm
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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:53 PM

What part of the moderators locking the first thread about the confederate rag didn't sink in?

A 100% rider on a 70% bike will always defeat a 70% rider on a 100% bike. (Kenny Roberts)

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:52 PM

CodyJ

.............Then we have the fact that people love seeing car stunts.  I cant imagine anyone finding it offensive as a southerner.  It was a COMEDY for God's sake.   

Hmm.....now you have me wondering if the Dukes of Hazard car stunt idea wasn't inspired by the movie: "Man With the Golden Gun" ; ...........an AMC Hornet doing a barrel roll jump with the Southern Sheriff comic relief left over from the previous James Bond move.HmmIck!
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Posted by CodyJ on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:50 PM

I think another thing people forget it that the flag is there because of the car's name!  It would be like calling a car the "Desert Rat" and putting a German flag on it.  They didn't put the Southern colors just to be reckneck.  I assume they took a famous leader in the area and named it after him.  Considering they were in the south it wwouldn't have made sense if they called it the "General Grant" ......    Ah....  A "What if idea"...  LOL

IDK folks but when people say things like "Gilligan's Island was offensive because of the way the natives were portrayed"......  I just laugh.  Are folks really that uptight.  

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:45 PM

CodyJ

Yeah I grabbed the 1/25 quickly the after this began.  I noticed on ebay they jumped and I couldn't figure out why.  Then I remembered the news.  I still have the opportunity to get the 1/16 one but not big on spending the money.  

I suspect most of the kits bought up will be offered for Beaucuoup bucks on evil bay rather than assembled.
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:41 PM

jtilley

I don't want to get into a political discussion here, but I have to say I have trouble imagining why anybody would want to build a model of anything associated with "The Dukes of Hazard." In my opinion it was an awful, moronic show. 

I agree it was an awful show.
I did buy the Dodge police car model at HL , mostly for the 1/25 weapons.
Never bought the General Lee model kit;  too painful.
I always thought about the number of Dodges that were wrecked while making of the show.Crying
Too bad the show wasn't sold to the tv muck-e-mucks when computer graphics could take the place of stunt work.
Oh, yeah....never did see much sense in putting any flag on the roof of that car anyway.Hmm
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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:36 PM

jtilley

I don't want to get into a political discussion here, but I have to say I have trouble imagining why anybody would want to build a model of anything associated with "The Dukes of Hazard." In my opinion it was an awful, moronic show.

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Ahhh!!! A voice of sanity in the chaos... Free speech argument so often turns on the absurd.

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Posted by CodyJ on Thursday, July 2, 2015 6:34 PM

Yeah I grabbed the 1/25 quickly the after this began.  I noticed on ebay they jumped and I couldn't figure out why.  Then I remembered the news.  I still have the opportunity to get the 1/16 one but not big on spending the money.  

Jtilley-  People want to build it because it is a badass muscle car to begin with.  A 69 Charger with a 440?  Can it get better?  Was never a fan of the paint job but eh...  Next its a "Movie Star Car" so you have those fans.   Then we have the fact that people love seeing car stunts.  I cant imagine anyone finding it offensive as a southerner.  It was a COMEDY for God's sake.   Who would honestly believe police officers would be like that...  come on.  Its the same with Andy Griffith.  Barney Fife?  Smokey & the Bandit?  Convoy? 

Its people who take these so seriously they forget its supposed to be, silly light-hearted fun.  I'm not a big Dukes fan but anyone who finds it upsetting need to remember what it is...  A comedy that is not to be taken seriously.

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, July 2, 2015 3:44 PM

I don't want to get into a political discussion here, but I have to say I have trouble imagining why anybody would want to build a model of anything associated with "The Dukes of Hazard." In my opinion it was an awful, moronic show. When I moved from Ohio to the not-so-deep South (Virginia and then North Carolina), I discovered, somewhat to my surprise, that a lot of southerners found the stereotypical portrayal of southerners in the show pretty offensive. Others were turned off by the stereotypical portrayal of law-enforcement officers. (Something tells me it wasn't a popular show among southern sheriffs and deputies.) Others were troubled by the thought of kids thinking of the "Dukes" as role models. Still others just thought the show was silly and juvenile.

I guess offensiveness is where you see it. Personally, I don't like to offend people (except certain people); and I figure if I do something that I know will offend somebody I'm deliberately offending him/her.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:50 PM

"Hey I know a guy"...

"Fell off a truck in Tuscaloosa"...

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 12:22 PM

GMorrison

$$$

.............and that reminds me of a song from the movie: " Cabaret" ................Whistling
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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 2, 2015 12:20 PM

$$$

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:21 AM

If the kit is temporarily removed from the shelves due to the PC issue, I would be surprised if someone doesn't offer after-market decals.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:00 AM

This what folks today needs to read and understand why the Civil War happened. Very cool link btw...

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Posted by RudyOnWheels on Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:59 AM
"That damn flag has hurt our country in many ways. The real shame is the pervasive ignorance of this fact."

^^^^^^^^^^^ Dumbest thing I have seen yet today............... Welcome to 1984. I am sure we can "ban" our way to utopia......  That flag is as responsible for our history as the car is for the drunk driver. The Confederate flag is PART OF OUR COLLECTIVE HISTORY. Get over it.  A wise man once said "Those that don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it."

Looks like we are going to repeat it and follow Ancient Rome into the dustbin of history.

I will check the LHS today to see what they have and report back.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:11 AM

GMorrison

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp

That document, "Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union", should clear up any misconceptions about why the Confederacy was formed.

Cool link !
Thanks for posting it.Big Smile
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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:04 AM

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp

That document, "Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union", should clear up any misconceptions about why the Confederacy was formed.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:32 AM

Hobby Lobby I really need to check out. They did have them there. If it were me, I definitely ask about buying one. Most likely they put them in the back room out of view. If they refused, I'd fight tooth and nail to get one an remind them the customer is ALWAYS right.

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