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Hobby Shops in an On-Line World

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:44 AM
I am really lucky I live in walking distance from probably the biggest and best Hobby store in Brisbane. It has an excellent range of products.I try to support Hobbyrama wherever I can because I would be very upset if it ever closed down.
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Posted by Build22 on Friday, July 18, 2003 8:05 AM
One other story I forgot. I visited a local hobby shop a little while back (the only descent one left in the area) I purchased a Tamiya Panther "G"

Not having been in a model store ina while - I didn't check the price - How much could it be? - Right - It was $ 41.00. WOW - that's list ......over list

I did buy it, for all the reasons above - but OOWW

I want to see hobbyshops survive. There is something about going in there and seeing all those stacks & being able to put your hand something. That's something that is worth money, but at what cost.

Hey Demono69 - I don't want to throw fuel on the fire but - iternet hobbies has Tamiya acrylics - 25ml bottles for $ 2.49.

http://www.internethobbies.com/internethobbies/tamacpain.html

What are you suppose to do? I don't know?



Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Wolfp on Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:51 PM
My father was grousing about hobby shops over the phone tonight, all of the ones he used to frequent have shut down, the few remaining are overpriced just to stay in business.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:39 PM
It's truly a depressing state of affairs when the most convenient, not to mention accessible, hobby store in the area is the internet. The only things I can really get around here are paints, and that still usually takes an order. i would be more than happy to support a hobby shop in this community, if there was one.

demono69
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Posted by Wolfp on Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:32 PM
Here is the latest suggestion from my wife for an addition to the business...we will now be offering storage space. Yes, that's right, behind this facility will be built a storage building...dont want the significant other to know exactly how out of hand your hobby has gotten, rent a space in our modern storage facility complete with climate control and shelving.

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Posted by Wolfp on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:05 AM
6 years gang...6 years and its "Wolfp's Hobby Shop, Coffee House, and Beer Garden"...Come join us for a warm cup of Joe while perusing our wares. Retire to the second story of our facility, complete with work benches, to discuss or build your recent purchase over a cold one (only draft or bottles; no cans, we are a class outfit), YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED!...I'll work out the details of franchise rights within the next couple of years.

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Posted by Build22 on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:39 AM
Guys - you are all right.

The internet is great but it can "KILL."

Unfortunately this trend is everywhere with everything. Look at Home Depot. They have killed so many mid level retailers, it isn't funny. Try to find a place where you can get a power tool fixed. They aren't there. The dealer used to fix the tools -customer service- but had additional income from tool sales (not at cut rates). They couldn't survive on just fixing tools - now they're gone. But so is OUR service. The biggest losers in the end is us, we loose a place to go look at this stuff, put our hands on it. We loose customer service.

But let me throw this in the mix. ( I don't want to get anybody pissed off) What about the stuff you may be buying on E-bay? A big majority of that is Hobby shop owners. Now if the guy down the road in the mom & pop store gave you those deals - would you go there more? Now I understand operating cost & margins & all that, but the guy Gbarnes is talking about has the right mix. He has to sell retail in order to pay for everything else but to a select few -repeat business- he gives more competitive pricing - that's just good business-

Sorry, I'll get off my soap box now.

Wolfp - I think you would make a great hobbyshop owner



Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 5:26 PM
Could you consider a chain, Wolf? We need those idea's in Europe.
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Posted by Kolja94 on Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:31 PM
Heck Wolf - I'd plan a vacation around a shop like that!

Sometimes I find myself using mail order out of necessity as there's no real good hobby shop within about an hour. But there ARE a couple really good one a couple hours away that I will either visit when passing through, or make a special trip for (like today - one was having a side walk sale and a bunch of my internet buddies were there so I made the special trip). Also when in a new city for business or pleasure, I try to visit a local shop.

You know come to think of it, the shop i visited today is right next door to a VFW. As soon as my membership card shows up, that will almost be as good as the model shop-pub Wolf was talking about....

Karl

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 11, 2003 1:47 AM
I live in Dallas. Two weeks ago one of the great ones folded up, Phil's Hobby. He was getting killed by internet, ebay, and rising rent costs. While I empasize, and am sad to see it go. I am guilty on utilizing other sources. I ain't rich, as a matter of fact I live off of unemployemnt for about another month. If I want a kit and I can get it shipped to my house for $60 less than he is charging (plus tax and cost of gas going up there). I'm going to get more bang for my dollar. Paint and glue are those emergency items. We have a few good stores arond here, but I would rather save a bunch and only use them for emergency. Squadron is just down the road, so it takes 2 days to get paints and things, if you plan and work on several projects at once you never get into a bind.
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Posted by Wolfp on Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:07 PM
LOL...Okey Doke...gonna be at least 6 more years (no retirement until 20) Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by paulnchamp on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 10:06 PM
Wolfp,
Make sure you post the address of this place as soon as it opens!!
Paul "A man's GOT to know his limitations."
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 6, 2003 11:45 PM
Hey, wolfp,

Why not come to Missouri and open it here? We desparately need a good (well, any) hobby shop around this place.

demono69
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Posted by Wolfp on Sunday, July 6, 2003 9:42 PM
Funny you should bring this up...er, well maybe not funny...my wife and I were discussing what I would do once I retired from the military. Heh, the first thing out of my mouth was open a hobby shop. Initially, I was going to open it as a tax write off while she still worked (could lose money and it still wouldnt hurt), then the ideas started flowing...hobby shop/bakery/coffee house...you could come and browse while snacking on a piece of cheesecake and a cup of joe. We are still dickering about the pub on the 2nd floor. Not sure if she is going to buy off on that, but retiring to discuss filling seams or how best to model zimmerit over a beer or two, what could be better? Wink [;)]

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Posted by paulnchamp on Sunday, July 6, 2003 7:39 PM
Well said, Gbarnes. We do need the local hobby shops even in this age of the internet. I'm fortunate to have two excellent ones less than two miles away, and
last week when I opened up that bottle of Light Ghost Gray to find that it had solidified, I was able to quickly run out and get another.

Sure beats waiting for UPS! And I like to spend my hobby dollars locally wherever possible. Sure, occasionally I'll order from Squadron, but I'd really rather spend my money here and support the local economy.
Paul "A man's GOT to know his limitations."
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, July 6, 2003 9:19 AM
Gerald, you are so right. We should all make that effort to keep our model shops going. Your Hobbytown sounds great-we could do with something like that over here.
I always did my best to support my local store and really enjoyed my time there, but in Britain the net has hit the independants hard and I doubt many more will survive the decade.

If I ever find myself stateside, I'd like to compare your shops to ours to see if things could be done differently over here.
I hope everybody reads your post and follows your example.

Regards,

Darren.
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Hobby Shops in an On-Line World
Posted by gbarnes on Friday, July 4, 2003 10:08 PM
I live in Winston-Salem, NC and we are fortunate to have an OUTSTANDING Hobbytown in Sherwood Plaza. We also have another large hobby shop in the Mall, which is by contrast a depressing place to visit. The difference couldn't be much greater.

Our IMPS chapter meets each month at Hobbytown, and a couple of the guys that work there are members. Understanding our need for specialized products, and our refusal to pay more than necessary, they stock multimedia kits, decals, a super selection of paints, and give us price breaks wherever they can. In return, we try to patronize them as much as possible. We feel that they are friends, not just a business, and share information on new products and techniques. And yes, when Squadron has a new release at half price, they don't act like we are dealing with the Devil for buying one on-line. They have earned our friendship and loyalty, and we both deal with reality.

In contrast the large Mall hobby shop has many mainstream kits, limited hobby supplies, sells ABOVE retail to make the rent, and the only time I think they see plastic is when they re-shrinkwrap defective returns for resale. I used to stop in while at the Mall, but rarely go in now, because its all been seen before.

Be thankful if you have a shop that welcomes you, and help them to get new customers by getting kids interested in the hobby, by word of mouth, by patronizing them even if you do buy some things on-line, by working with them. As much as I enjoy these Forums, nothing can take the place of having a friendly place to meet other modelers and see real plastic in person. If we lose too many shops, we may lose the opportunity to argue face to face over the trivial model techniques and products that we love to argue about! When I say there are too many P-51s built, and John Doe says who cares about my WWII German jet project models, we can both get passionate about our interests, see each others red, angry faces, and really enjoy a lively discussion about things that matter to us. Couldn't be better, and something we need to help preserve.

Build a model, just for the fun of it!
Gerald
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