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Building a fleet of 1/72 Italeri UH-34 Seahorse's

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:07 PM

My progress has been really slow this week , Sad

I was only able to get three H-34's airbrushed .

I'm quite happy how the H-34G III MFG5 has turned out ; I ordered another two Italeri UH-34J kits this week and when I opened the box's they had the V-style landing gear on the sprue Surprise ;

I guess "lord helicopter '' must of heard my prayers

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:03 PM

I managed to carefully remove the landing gear frame , turned it around and re-glued it back on ;

I suppose it doesn't look too bad for a first attempt ;

Hopefully everything will blend in nicely when she is all painted up ;

                                             John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:51 AM

Well I just discovered I made a really dumb mistake , I thought the cut-out in the landing gear frame faced the rear to allow the pipe ducting to fit ; However I was looking through a back issue of FSM [April 2005] , there is an article on building a SH-34J Sea Bat . I was checking to see how to cut open the cockpit side windows and saw this pic...

I guess I'll have to carefully remove mine and turn it around , Sad

                                               Bang Head John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, May 17, 2010 10:35 PM

I glued the V-style frame to the underside of the fuselage .

I have four H-34's ready for the spraybooth

I found some decals for a German MFG5 Navy H-34G III , I also found some U.S. ARMY decals for my medivac bird

There is also a USAF and another VNAF H-34

I cut out an opening for where the lower exhaust was originally positioned on the USAF H-34 , I wasn't happy with the paint finish on my USMC "Evil Eyes" UH-34D , so I lightly sanded her and re-masked for a camouflage "Kingbee" VNAF UH-34D .

For a USMC Evil Eyes bird I thought of doing this...

I'm going to add M60's to the cabin windows and door opening , I found some figures to use like in the pic above and I'll see if I can get a couple of pilots and maybe cut open the cockpit windows as well .

                                                       John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, May 17, 2010 7:15 AM

I had a second try with slightly smaller diameter rod [1mm]

I think it might work , I just hope the super glue holds all the joins together ...

I'll leave the two upright support struts off and glue the V shape frame to the underside of the fuselage and get ready to airbrush .

I hope this works....Hmm

                                              John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:57 PM

I was a little curious as to how difficult it would be to scratch-build my own V-style landing gear set up .

I haven't done a lot of scratch-building in the past as I'm not all that confident trying to replicate the real thing . My first try at the V-style gear is a little chunky in places so I still need to do a little filing with the sanding stick , the two main support struts are just sitting in place to see how everything looks .

I guess its okay for a first attempt , some more sanding and filing especially on the underside where it attaches to the bottom of the fuselage should make it look a bit better , If so I'll build a West German H-34G III Navy version with the overall aluminium and orange scheme , I think I can scrounge up enough decals from the decal spares box !!!

                                                John.

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:04 PM

Unfortunatly I haven't completed any more H-34's as yet but something interesting I found out while using Tamiya Masking tape to mask the canopies ;

Until recently I always used the 40mm wide Tamiya masking tape and this year especially , I had a lot of issue's with canopies not looking all that great after airbrushing and removing the tape . With the last three H-34 builds I completed , I started to use the Tamiya tape that comes in a plastic dispenser , 18mm wide , and I was really happy how the canopies looked .

To me it seems that the 18mm tape is a little more easier to work with especially when pushing the tape into the frame line edges with a toothpic . It also seems a lot easier to cut with a hobby scalpel .

Anyway I'll be using and buying the 18mm Tamiya tape in the plastic dispenser from now on ,as it appears that I have solved a big problem I was having with canopy masking ...

                                                 John .

 

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:18 AM

Thank's for the kind comments on my H-34 builds , everyone .

I wanted to add a U.S. Army , Medivac bird to the collection , so I scrounged around the spares box and found some streatchers .

I tried printing my own U.S. ARMY lettering to suit as I didn't have anything in the decal stash to use .

On this build I added a small wedge shape block to represent where the rotor drive shaft would travel through , I also tried to give the cabin roof panel a quilted look ; It's rather basic but it's a little more detail than the other H-34 interiors I had previously done , I got the idea from watching Richards amazing UH-34D build .

I also found some pieces to use for the nose antenna , bits from the Huey spares box .

The decal lettering isn't as bold as I would have liked , but I really like the medivac bird so I'll keep going with her .

                                             John .

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Posted by sharkbait on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:28 AM

Here's one for you.

You have never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3!

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Posted by Len Lundh on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:06 AM

Excellent work, John. It's great to see the different colors-and-markings combos so well replicated. The possibilities for S-58 and H-34 schemes are almost endless.

I know you're mass-building for liveries, not detail, but have to point out that -- thanks to the kit manufacturers -- the tail rotors are all backwards.

Keep up the great work on these birds!

Len

 

 

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Posted by rtfoe on Monday, May 10, 2010 9:11 PM

John,

You've got quite a fleet of H-34's there. Really nice and neat builds. You're fast too. The Civvie versions are colorful and I like them very much.

Keep them coming.

Cheers,

Richard 

" Our hobby is like a box kit full of plastic, You'll never know what you'll get till you complete one "

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Sunday, May 9, 2010 11:49 PM

Hopfully by the end of the week , I'll have another three H-34's finished .

I had some masking tape issue's with the Air America S-58T and the RCAF UH-34A ; I forgot when trimming the masking tape that the outer edges on sides of the tape tend to be a little feathered to start with ; When I pulled the masking tape off , some decarmation lines where nice and neat but other lines were not , there was some masking tape residue in a few spots as well , so I have lightly sanded both birds and I'll re-mask and airbrush the color's again . A little frustrating but I'll get there eventually.....

                                                                                    John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Sunday, May 9, 2010 10:22 PM

I've finished three more UH-34's ;

First is a Italeri , U.S.Army CH-34C...

Next is a Italeri , UH-34G I for the West German Army...

Thirdly here is a Hobbyboss , UH-34D for the VNAF...

Here is a group shot ;

                                                          John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:29 PM

I've been trying to scrounge up enough decals to go on a previous built H-34 with an overall fluroescent orange color scheme . I have some Numbers in various sizes I can use but I haven't had much luck finding letters the right size to suit .

Something that caught my attention and is a little worrying is the fluro orange is starting to fad to a light pink color on one side of the fuselage ...

I only airbrushed this helicopter about 18 months ago and I'm suprised how soon the color is fading , "I'm not sure if it shows up that much in the pic I posted'' , I guess I will have to re-mask  the Helo and airbrush Gunze H-14 orange , I don't think I'll use those Fluroescent color's again .

                                  John .

 

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, April 26, 2010 6:22 PM

Aaron , thanks for the tip about the RAF decal markings , I'll make sure I use serial numbers that actually match a HAR-2 version .

Something else that got me a little curious , was while searching through airlinners.net for images of the S-58 , I saw some pic's of non military commercial S-58's without the transmission deck covers . Although this looks kinda weird , it got me thinking about the way Matchbox produced their HU-5/HAS-31 kit .

The rotor shaft is molded seperatly ...

Of course there would be a lot of work adding some plumbing and an oil cooler to the deck but it got me thinking about modifing another UH-34J and using the Matchbox rotor shaft as a starting point .

I like this pic I lifted from airlinners.net ...

Coming up with decal options to suit commercial versions would also be quite difficult , so for the time being , I won't put together the Matchbox Wessex , I'll see if I can figure out some way of getting/making an oil cooler and piping lines ??? 

                                               John .

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Posted by Aaronw on Monday, April 26, 2010 4:57 PM

Helo 53

I noticed that the Italeri HAS-3 kit has an option for an all over yellow RAF Wessex HAR-2 , however I couldn't see any reference to the RAF using the HAS-3 version with the dorsal radome and horse collor on top of the oil cooler exit louvres and the fuselage cabin windows seem to be the wrong shape , so I'll just use the RAF decals from the HAS-3 kit on my hybrid H-34/HU-5 bird .

                                          John .

 

Yep, Italeri didn't do their homework very well or they just really wanted to model a gate guard. I was curious about this when got the kit, so did some poking around online. The story I found is rather complicated.

The decals are for a company owned helicopter used as a gunnea pig for various Wessex upgrades over the years. When the Wessex was coming to the end of its service this airframe went to the RAF I think to their flying school and then to a local air museum. The museum painted it up as an RAF Rescue helicopter for display and apparently Italari used this aircraft for their decals as the numbers match up.

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, April 26, 2010 3:29 PM

While looking through the Westland Wessex reference book , I noticed that the HC-2 and the HAR-2 Wessex helicopters have the same square shape fuselage cabin windows like the Sikorsky UH-34 helo's .

I guess I'll have to use one of the UH-34J kits and add the HU-5 Wessex nose to the fuselage to give me more accurate HAR-2 Wessex with the overall yellow paint scheme . The Wessex book also shows the duel pipe ducting under the fuselage , so I'll add that as well .

I noticed that the Italeri HAS-3 kit has an option for an all over yellow RAF Wessex HAR-2 , however I couldn't see any reference to the RAF using the HAS-3 version with the dorsal radome and horse collor on top of the oil cooler exit louvres and the fuselage cabin windows seem to be the wrong shape , so I'll just use the RAF decals from the HAS-3 kit on my hybrid H-34/HU-5 bird .

                                          John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:40 AM

I was searching the net for images of the H-34 and saw this pic of a die-cast West German Navy H-34G

All of the pic's I have seen so far , have shown the 'Marineflieger' [Naval Aviation] H-34G's with the V style landing gear . Len Lundh's H-34 book mentions that nine H-34G's were transfered from the German Army to MFG5

I was wondering how accurate the die-cast model is with the overall aluminum / orange scheme and the markings , with the bent leg landing gear . Seeing I haven't had much luck tracking down any more UH-34J kits with the V style landing gear , I was a little curious as to the accuracy as I would really like to add a German Navy H-34 with the aluminum/orange finish to my H-34 builds ???

                                              John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:25 PM

Aaronw

and I thought I was a Sikorsky S-58 geek...  Big Smile

Yeah , I guess I went totally into the helicopter 'dark side' with these birds ; I forgot to mention while visiting hannants.co.uk , they also had these decals for the S-58...

I always like the picture on the front of Squadrons H-34 book , with the Belgian Air Force HSS-1retirement scheme, I also ordered a couple more Hobbyboss UH-34A kits .

I've given up on trying to correct the droop on hobbyboss's rotor blades , the one's that didn't snap only ended up badly kinked , so i'll leave the rest as they are .

                                                John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:51 PM

Hi Len ,

I'll try and match the Army serial numbers to suit a CH-34C , another mistake I made was the Marines recovery helicopter was for the Mercury Spacecraft .

Thanks for the tip Yes

                           John.

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Posted by Aaronw on Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:20 PM

and I thought I was a Sikorsky S-58 geek...  Big Smile

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Posted by Len Lundh on Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:20 PM

Hey, John,

 

Sweet looking work. Just to be picky, the nose antenna belong on the Army's H-34Cs, not the A models.

 

Cheers,

Len

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:49 PM

Fatpigdog

  You must be the reason we cant find them on the shelves anymore. Propeller

 

Sorry about that Whistling

It's probably why I had to visit Hong Kong , England and the US online to find some more UH-34J and HU-5 kits . I did notice recently that some hobby stores were stocking Tamiya helicopter kits , which are ex-Italeri molds , I realize it's wishfull thinking on my part but it would great if Tamiya would consider re-issueing this one ...

I found the Tamiya box art pic while searching the net ; Also seeing that Revell seem to have lots of their HAS-3 kits in the shops , it would great to see them re-issue the H-34G kit...

I pray everynight to the Lord Helicopter that this might happen and I promise only to buy 5 or 6 of each kit , so to leave plenty of others for the rest of you guy's

                                            John

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Posted by Fatpigdog on Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:50 AM

Thanks Helo 53 , this would explain it , I have the Itelari and the Revell and  the Matchbox H.A.S. 31 and non have seats , and it looks like you have the market share of the rest of them . You must be the reason we cant find them on the shelves anymore. Propeller

Some very nice work going on in your hanger , can only imagine how they will all look when completed   Bow Down

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:59 AM

Four more HAS-3 kits arrived during the week along with some 'Modeldecal No.99' Royal Navy decals ; I like the dark blue/gray and red scheme , also the overall light stone finish for a MK-1 Wessex .

Five more HU-5 kits also arrived with the Modeldecal No.96 Royal Navy sheet ; There is a dark olive green and red scheme and I also will do an overall yellow scheme.

A modeler over at ARC was selling a lot of kits , I bought a few helicopter kits from him including a Matchbox HAS-31 and a Italeri UH-34D . I have some Aussie decals for a RAN Wessex and I can't decide between a Navy VC-8 Sea Bat or another Marines Sea Horse .

I still have another seven UH-34J kits on order , I'm hopfull that one or two of them may have the V style landing gear , I only had three kits with the V-style landing gear , I started the second one and I'll build her as a Apollo Recovery Marines helicopter No. 44

I saw these decals over at hannants.co.uk

I like the two VIP color schemes along with the two tone green and an overall dark gray finish so I ordred the decals and four more HU-5 Wessex kits .

                                               John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, April 23, 2010 9:50 PM

Hi FPdog ;

All the Italeri UH-34J Sea Horse kits come with cabin seating as does the Wessex HU-5 ; Only the Wessex HAS-3 kit doesn't include rear seating .

I have four H-34's ready for decaling ;

USMC "Evil Eyes" and VNAF UH-34D's ; Also a West German H-34G I and a US.Army H-34A . I found some spare nose antenna in a Italeri H-21C 'Shawnee' flying banana kit , so I decided to use those on the army bird . I'll continue airbrushing this weekend and hopfully have some more ready for decaling shortly .

                                            John .

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Posted by Fatpigdog on Friday, April 23, 2010 7:48 AM

Wow ! What a collection , Now thats a ' Group Build' for real , Can't wait to see it all finished . Looks like you have the rotors all worked out  but can I ask please ? Where are all the interior seats from? .I have some of those kits but do not remember seeing any ? I think I will have to open them all and see which one has and which hasn't .

 

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:19 PM

I'm hoping to get some paint on at least three of the H-34's this weekend , maybe even six  would be great ???

S-58T in Air America official colors , Hobbyboss UH-34A for the RCAF and the UH-34D VNAF and if all goes well three Italeri birds , UH-34A US. Army , UH-34D USMC 'Evil Eyes' and another AAM UH-34D .

                                     John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Tuesday, April 6, 2010 4:40 AM

I have made a little more progress on my 13 H-34/Wessex birds ;

Hobbyboss UH-34A and UH-34D , Italeri [UH-34J] S-58T , Italeri HU-5 and HAS-3 and UH-34A's and D's

Before installing the cabin and cockpit windows , I diped all the clear parts in some Future ;

I'll close up the fuselage halves next , everything seems to be going okay...

                                                             John .

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Posted by viking73 on Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:51 PM

Nice looking H-34s you have there John!  Thanks for the pictures.

-Derek

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