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Done - "IRENE!!" - OP Gothic Serpent (Black Hawk Down) MH-60A "Super 65"

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Done - "IRENE!!" - OP Gothic Serpent (Black Hawk Down) MH-60A "Super 65"
Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, August 8, 2020 8:47 PM

My latest build is of one of the aircraft that participated in Operation Gothic  Serpent (OGS, Somalia, 3-4 OCT '93), the true story that inspired the book and movie Black Hawk Down.  Super 65 was an MH-60A DAP-capable aircraft (though not outfitted as a DAP for OGS), tail #83-23887 with "Heavy Metal" on its engine cowls in an OD Green color.   65 was the bird that inserted Ranger chalk #2 into the target area.  

This is how she looked at the time.  Being an A model Black Hawk, she did not have the nose-mounted weather radar,  no hoist nor mount for it, but she did have a FLIR turret under the nose.

She looked the same in '95.

I have been lucky enough to be in contact with both the pilot at the time, CW3(R) Gerry Izzo (now a commercial airline pilot), and one of the Crew Chiefs, MSG(R) Pat Powers to get details on how it was laid out and how it looked.

Finally, as I was looking for some more pics of it, I came across a website for Unical Defense. Unical rebuilds surplus aircraft and resells them on the civilian market. Interesting enough, they have refurbished and have Super 65 for sale.  It was restored to its former glory as Heavy Metal, minus the FLIR turret.

I am starting with the Kitty Hawk 1/35 MH-60L kit, which represents a more modern 160th SOAR (Special Ops Aviation Regiment) helo.  It will take some minor changes to backdate it to an OP Gothic Serpent helo.  So far, I have sanded the transmission access panel off the right rear fuselage and removed the stiffening plates on both sides of the tailboom as these were not present on the aircraft in '93.  I replaced the missing recessed rivet details by pressing into the plastic with a dental pick.

Original kit part with transmission access panel and a couple of the raised stiffening plates visible behind it.

I completed most of the interior as well.  I used some parts from an upcoming Werner's Wings MH-60 Op Gothic Serpent backdate set as well.  This will include a new center console w/out the newer upper rear panel, backdated instrument panel, junction boxes for the M134s, parts for the gunners' seats, 20mm-sized ammo cans with feed motors, armored floor and side wall plates, and a few other parts.  The set should be available soon.

Here is the interior.  I cut up the kit IP decals to fit the modified IP and center console.  I also added parts to the cut outs under the seats by cutting up the parts for the nose electronics compartment that I was not going to show opened up.  I also used some of the electronic boxes on the cut outs in the ceiling.

I failed to take any more interior pics before closing it up.  I did add the wiring for the M134s and their drive motors, first aid kits on the pilots' seat backs, survival kits forward of the crew chief seats, and a few smaller items.  I also added Eduard seat belts to the pilots' and crew chiefs' seats.

  

 

 

More to come later as I continue with it.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, August 9, 2020 1:17 AM

This should be a good one to watch!

Im surprised that the Army does not have this bird in a museum like at Bragg instead of selling it off.

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, August 9, 2020 8:12 AM

Hi Stik.  It will be a fun ride.  Keep watching.

As to putting it in a museum, you can't keep them all.  The Army chose to keep Super 68 "Razor's Edge" in the US Army Aviation Musuem at Ft Rucker, AL.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:54 AM

Here are a few more pics that show the interior details a bit more.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:01 PM

Nice new avatar, Arty.

Did I miss what model kit this is?

 

Bill

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:19 PM

Thanks Bill.  I guess I did not state it, but I am starting with the Kitty Hawk 1/35 MH-60L kit, which represents a more modern 160th SOAR (Special Ops Aviation Regiment) helo.  It will take some minor changes to backdate it to an OP Gothic Serpent helo. 

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Posted by keavdog on Sunday, August 9, 2020 1:49 PM

Excellent project!  I read that book cover to cover in a few hours.  Following this one

Thanks,

John

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, August 9, 2020 2:36 PM

HeavyArty

Hi Stik.  It will be a fun ride.  Keep watching.

As to putting it in a museum, you can't keep them all.  The Army chose to keep Super 68 "Razor's Edge" in the US Army Aviation Musuem at Ft Rucker, AL.

 

Im sure it will be a fun ride here! And yes, I’ve got eyes are on this project.

 

No you can’t save them all. Good to hear that one of the veterans of that day made it in to a museum. I went looking to the Airborne/Special Ops museum at Fayetteville‘s webpage and saw that they have a Little Bird there. So both types are preserved.

I was pleasantly surprised to learn years ago that CH-53 ”Apple One” of the Son Tay raid  survived the rest of that war, conversion to MH-53, the Cold War, Desert Storm, the Balkans, Afghanistan, and Iraq, to make it into the USAFM in Dayton.

 

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, August 9, 2020 2:51 PM

That's interesting, Stik. thanks for the info.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, August 10, 2020 8:50 AM

Hmm;

      Ground pounding Marine likum big whirly Birdie Model. Me makum home because of Whirly Birdies. Whirly Birdies need Jim Beam dispenser.

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Posted by oortiz10 on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 6:08 PM

What a coincidence! My brother was a -60 wrench in the Army for a long time. After his retirement, he worked at Unical and was part of Super 65's refurb. He was just sharing some pictures and a video with me the other day. He had a couple of shots of the airframe before it went into paint, and one of the transmission and hydraulic systems after they dropped them in. I'm looking forward to seeing how your build turns out. Good luck! 

-O

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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, August 13, 2020 8:24 AM

Thanks guys.  I hope to have an update later this weekend.  

Omar - that is a cool coincidence.  Your brother did a good job on it as it looks great.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:45 AM

As I continue the build, I wanted to share some info on the kit.  It is a really nice kit and is light years ahead of the Academy Black Hawks.  It does have a couple of issues that have come to light though.  

The main one is that if you follow the instructions, you will build a much later MH-60L than was used in Somalia in '93. You have to know what to change and what to leave off to build an OGS MH-60A/L. All the specific aircraft mods are listed in this thread on Op Gothic Serpent MH-60s.  

Another (bigger) issue that has been found is with the markings. The stenciling and common markings should be in OD green, but they are in black on the decal sheet. The issue is that the aircraft are also black, meaning the decals will disappers on the black fuselage. For proper, OD, markings, get the Werner's Wings "Irene!" decal sheet.

Review of them

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Lastly, the initial isues of the kit did not contain the ESSS covers that are needed for an OGS helicopter, as opposed to the longer ESSS wings to hold weapons on a later DAP model.  Kitty Hawk rectified this by sending the ESSS covers out of their HH-60G kit (came w/two different types) to those who bought the original issue boxings.  Subsequent boxings should include the ESSS covers (mine did), however, they are still not shown on the instructions.

Needed ESSS covers.  If you are missing them, contact Kitty Hawk for these parts.

   

Below is a list of changes to the Kitty Hawk 1/35 MH-60L made by Floyd Werner when he was building Super 61 that applies to all OGS Black Hawks. 

Summary of changes for OPERATION GOTHIC SERPENT MH-60L 

1- Install H-bar support (Werner’s Wings) on ceiling for side facing crewchief seats

2- Modify two seats in Step 1 (A-A) slightly with the legs pointed aft.

3- Reposition Fire Extinguisher (E33) in step C-C to the copilot seat frame right next to the center console

4- Substitute cargo hook with four ring tiedowns (Werner’s Wings part)

5- Cut copilot (left side) collective and rotate the control head 90 degrees.

6- DO NOT ADD the rear part of the center console. Or use Werner’s Wings part.

7- Use smaller ammo cans (Werner’s Wings part)

8- Remove rivet detail from B28 and B-29. To be totally accurate these should be uncovered and show the hydraulic and electrical lines, as well as, the sheet metal detail.

9- Don’t make holes in part B27

10- Skip Step 6 ammo boxes, both types

11- Don’t add the X antenna, or E37 antenna

12- Don’t open the holes for the right-side chaff dispenser.

13- Don’t open the holes for the left side forward chaff dispenser. Note that these aircraft only had one Flare/Chaff Bucket on the left side.

14- Don’t forget to open up the two holes for the aft lower part of the tailboom. Not indicated in the instructions

15- Don’t make holes on the left side for the antenna behind the cockpit.

16- Fill hole where D25 fuel drain goes, don't use D25.

17- Fill and sand transmission access panel just in front of D25 fuel drain

18- Either cut G9/G15 to a point or use Werner’s Wings part

19- No pilot or copilot doors

20- Don’t install the right-side chaff dispenser.

21- Don’t install the left side forward chaff dispenser.

22- Check aircraft for FLIR and/or weather radar nose cone.

23- Use Chaff dispenser (G20, F47)

24- Cut part G35 and G36 Strut covering so the bottom part is removed

25- Add the ESSS covers (left and right) provided separately (not shown in the instruction). If not included in your kit, contact Kitty Hawk.

 

DO NOT ADD THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. Mark your instructions before beginning construction.

 Step 1-Seats ((B-B))

Step 2-B5, D8, PE44, PE45

Step 3-D28, B22, PE24, B23

Step 4-F30, F38, F50

Step 6-D13, D14, D15, D16, F8, PE 37, F30, F50, F387

Step 9-D7, G32, G52, E3

Step 11- Recommend not adding C42

Step 13- D66, D25, G24 PE33

Step 14- D63, GP24, GP25, Pilot and Copilot doors (GP11, GP6, GP7, GP14, B13, B10)

Step 15- Chaff dispenser (G25, G19, E29, F47)

Step 16- Chaff dispenser (G26, G19, E29, F47), antenna F34

Step 17 & 18- Don’t use the wings or supports (entire top of page, except for part G35 and G36 (see note above)

Step 24-27 and final unnumbered page- Omit entire page

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, August 21, 2020 11:35 AM

I have been working on this quite a bit recently.  I pretty much have it ready for paint.  I just need to add all the glass and it will be off to the paint booth.

Here it is overall helo so far.

I made a few corrections along the way to make it more accurate for a Somalia '93 SOAR helo.

The DAP-capable aircraft (Super 61 and Super 65) had laser sight mounts on the nose.  Werner's Wing (WW) will offer these in an upcoming set.

Super 65 had only the FLIR turret on it.  Only L models had the FLIR and nose-mounted weather radar.

 

The Radar Warning Receivers (RWRs) were not used yet in '93 as well.  These are the two tubular protrusions on the nose and the box on the tail above the stabilator.  I left them off the nose and used another forthcoming piece from Werner's Wings that replicates a standard tail.  This piece could also be used, along with an Academy pointy stabilator, to make a UH-60A or L model from the kit.

 

A few more coming WW parts are also on it.  

The batwing antenna on the top.

Narrow, A model step sponson covers (dark grey).  The kit comes with the wider L model covers.

I also chucked the kit wheels into a Dremmel on a nail and cut tread into them by touching the spinning wheel to a razor say.  They came out pretty good; not prefect, but better than a smooth wheel (in my opinion).  You can see how they turned out above and below.

I added the towel bar antenna from an Academy MH-60G kit.  Curiously enough, the antenna is not included in the kit, but the fuselage has plates where the antenna would go and they match the Academy part almost exactly.  I only had to shorten the front section slightly to get it to fit perfectly.

I built the M134 miniguns as per the kit instructions, sort of.  I left off the kit individual barrels and added barrels from an Academy MH-60G, with the PE flash suppressors from the kit.  I did it this way since I didn't like how the 6 individual barrels w/PE rings on them looked when done.  They were a real PIA to get straight and keep from breaking as I sanded the connection points, line up the PE rings, etc. They looked horrible to me when done.  This way looks pretty good, I think.  I did them the same way on my HH-60G as well.  Another option is Real-Model's M134 barrels.  They are really nice as well.  I also cut off the shell ejection tubes as they were not used in Somalia.  I added pieces of styrene tubing to represent the part the flexible tubes attach to.

I also added the tubing to the main and tail rotors.

Lastly, I added a coiled up FASTROPE in the cabin.

That's it for now.  I hope to add the glass and get it painted soon.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, August 22, 2020 3:07 PM

After touching base with the Crew Chief of Super 65, MSG(R) Pat Powers, he informed me that the placement of the laser sight mounts on the nose was off.  They were actually on top of the vent screen, using the screen's screws to mount them.  I have corrected their placement.

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Posted by Gunny Dan on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 7:17 PM
I flew with these guys in Somalia, I was with the 11th MEU. Great looking build!! I am now officially ashamed of my seat belts in my helo's, I am now getting PE ones!! Fantastic looking.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:41 PM

Thanks Gunny.  Yup, I gave up on home-made seat belts a while ago.  They are usually the only PE I will buy for a model.  I generally find PE pretty useless other than screens.  Most of the pieces are flat representations of dimensional object that I feel don't help the model.  PE seat belts look good though; just like the real things.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 8:35 AM

Super 65 "Heavy Metal" is done.  

I painted it using a spray can of flat black.  It came out smooth and dead flat.

For decals, I used aftermarket since the kit decals are pretty useless.  The issue is that all the common stenciling/markings are printed in black on the kit decals.  These will disappear on the black fuselage.  So I used a set of Cobra Company 160th SOAR subdued OD Green markings for all the common markings and stenciling.  I used Werner's Wings Irene! decals for the "Heavy Metal" markings, 65 window markings, and the tail number; and a few of the kit decals such as the data placards above the wheels.  All the decals went on without issue and snugged down with a bit of decal set.

Once the decals had dried, I sealed them with a couple coats of dullcoat.  Next, I washed it with a couple coats of acrylic Hunter Green to give it a bit of a green hue to the black. Then I gave it a wash of an acrylic sand color.  Lastly, I added the lights and picked out a few details and she was ready.

Here she is all done.

 

Some closer/detail pics.

This build was very rewarding for me, esp. since I have been in contact with the crew from Op Gothic Serpent.  I appreciate their approval and critical eyes to get this one right.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:18 AM

This is looking GREAT!!!! I like the sand effects with that wash! Turned out very well. 

                   

 

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:18 AM

Very nice!  Looks great

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:32 AM

Aw!

       C'mon, Are you tryin to tell us that's a model? The weathering and such is Too Real! Darned nice job! 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 5:34 PM

Thanks guys for the support.  It was a very rewarding build.  

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Posted by Gunny Dan on Friday, September 4, 2020 5:21 PM

Great looking build.  I feel like I am standing right next to her again!  Warrant Officer Durant was in my Weapons and Tactics class in 1993, the whole "Super" H-60 guys were awesome to fly with.  Always had our backs when we would do troop insertions in North Mogadishu, or they would escort us out to western Somalia, Balidogla etc..probably spelled that wrong.....anyways, felt good to have them on our wing

 

Nice looking build, the colors are right on the money!!  Love the black and green hue, just perfect.

 

OOH RAH!

Gunny Dan

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, September 4, 2020 7:59 PM

Thanks Gunny.  It was a very rewarding build, esp. when the pilot (CW3(R) Izzo) and one of the Crew Chiefs (MSG(R) Powers) both told me it looks just like the actual helo.  The best compliments I could get.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 4, 2020 9:33 PM

Looking very sharp! The finished build is outstanding Yes

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Greg on Friday, September 4, 2020 9:49 PM

That is fantastic, talk about research and attention to detail. YesYesYes

Anybody who can bring a basically black model to life is a magician in my book. You surely did.

-Greg

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, September 5, 2020 6:42 AM

Thanks Stik and Greg.  It was a really fun build.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, September 5, 2020 7:56 AM

Beautiful!!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, September 5, 2020 9:47 AM

Thanks Lee.

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Posted by Huihui on Saturday, October 3, 2020 9:46 AM
Excellent build.... I'm new to this forum, and this is the first build I read. I'm truly astonished..... Great work...….
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