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Will, SLW 45 - thanks a lot for your comments. I'm also glad you like my work. Makes me wanna show you more - but that's future. Thanks again, have a nice day
Pawel
All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!
www.vietnam.net.pl
WOW your work is fantastic
And the pictures are wonderful
So
Great work Pawel!
Turned out really well.
Chris, Karl - Thanks a lot for your comments! While I build the truck in the autos forums, I try to figure out what my next Vietnam project will be. Time will tell... That's the thing - the slower I build, the more time I have to make the idea better - that's my general observation... Thanks again, have a nice day
This is really looking awesome, Pawel. A great job on every aspect. The bunker is really superb, and the whole scene just beautifully composed!
Look forward to your next Vietnam project! Good luck!
Chris
A veteran is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America," for an amount of "up to and including my life."
SuppressionFire, Andy - thanks for the comments, it's so nice to hear. I'm glad I took the extra time to make the fotos. Now I'm going to take a short break and build a civilian truck, then I'm movin' back to military themes - Vietnam! Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day
Especially this picture... it would have fooled me easily! I really enjoyed following your work in the diomaras forum.
Andy
I really like the natural backgrounds! Something about sunlight & a realistic backdrop catches my eye. A few of your pictures could be mistaken for the real deal! I appreciate the time & effort to capture these images and consider it a branch of the hobby, that is taking realism in modeling to the next level by capturing the scene in a realistic photograph. Followed your entire thread and am impressed with the final vignette.
Pawel,
Arriving late to this thread, but I have to say WOW! Very eye catching diorama. There is alot happening without looking busy, and I do like the wet look. It's different, and well done!
Bravo!
Thanks a lot for your comment Richard, glad you like it! Of course I'd be glad to go with darker clouds, but didn't know how to darken them. But more seriously, I think the clouds I had came out brighter than they really were. Fotographing clouds is generally tricky, they show they real colour when the lighting is a bit on the dark side, and then the details on the first plan tend to show very dark.
Thanks again and have a nice day
Good shots Pawel, some of them can pass off as "in country". Darker clouds would have made it perfect, I know Asian weather. We've had unusual heavy rain fall in the hot periods of this year.
Cheers,
Richard
" Our hobby is like a box kit full of plastic, You'll never know what you'll get till you complete one "
Pat, krow113 - thanks for your comments and your kind words. I waited several days for the right lighting conditions and it seemes it payed off. And when you have the right light, the fotos practically do themselves. I also set the aperture to highest f-number - and then it helps to have a tripod with you, because the exposition times are getting long (more than 0.1s).
But let's not get too technical, maybe somebody else got any comments? Looking forward to them, have a nice day
Great work Pawel , not many will tackle the wet look , nice base as well.
Thank you ,Krow113
Photos are FANTASTIC! Wish I could take them like that. The down the barrels shot of the meat chopper really makes it look wicked. Well done on a great build!
Pat
Adam, Richard, Pat - thanks a lot for your comments. I especially liked the idea of Pat to add "wet" in the ridges of tarps. And I tried it too, but my Pawelite tarps drink up paint like they were very thirsty, so the end effect isn't much different from before. Anyhow, yesterday we had some really nice clouds to shade the sun and I went out and made somoe fotos. Here they are, for your viewing pleasure:
First the overall shots:
Then some with natural background:
Here I tried to emulate "THE FOTO" but I'm still not quite there...
Anyhow I'm calling my dio done. Hope you like it, I look forward to your comments.
I would like to express my special thanks to Gary (squeakie) - without him I wouldn't tackle this one. I would also like to thank all others who commented and helped me with this project.
Catch you later, 'till next time
Hi Pawel,
Adam's explanation is what I was getting at when it comes to shine on figures. Now that you mentioned an after rain effect then it's clear then. The wet look on the roof of the bunker captures the after rain effect however the overall effect depends on the amount of rainfall. The tarps for instants since it's waterproofed would have their tops shiny with trickles of water in a drizzle.
Most cloth fabrics would have soaked up the rain unless it's waterproofed then you get a slight shine. One effect you could do for the figures is to paint the parts of the tunic that is exposed to the rain in a darker shade. This works best for simulating sweaty armpits.
And to help the viewer understand that it's after a downpour is to have a touch of an action of perhaps someone clearing his flooded trench or squeezing dry his slouch hat. Just my suggestion. Do what you think is best as it's your build and I like what I've seen so far.
Look forward to the new photos.
Ok buddy, after a rain--that figures
The one photo isn't alot to go on, but now that you mention it , a recent rain explains the sheen on the ground in the back, and on the quadgun (maybe somewhat the rain-soaked sandbag too?) As suggested, some visable standing water should go a long way to reenforcing the effect, although it's a litle difficult to pull-off. What I think Richard was agreeing with me is we see so many scenes ruined by shiny figures. Over and over modelers make the mistake and nothing makes you have the impression of pieces of plastic like that sheen. I think toning down the sheen on your figures will improve the look even if the ground appears wet with rain. I hope you know what I mean Pawel--it's a fine point, but i think important one or I wouldn't bother--I'd rather you be happy with the thing than anything else--it's a very good build-do what you think is best , Buddy--look forwrd to those final photos.
"Well...you gunna pull them pistols, or just whistle Dixie?"
Pawel, the dio looks excellent! I think you captured the "wet" effect pretty well. If you want to make it look wetter maybe try some puddles around the gun mount using acrylic gloss medium and maybe running a little of the gloss medium into the valleys of the tarps. Aside from those minor additions I wouldn't change a thing. Thanks for the great WIP on a too neglected subject!
Richard,
thanks a lot for your comment, and kind words from a dio expert like you mean a lot to me.
So a question to you, but also to other modellers - how would you go about showing a scene after a rain? From your reactions I see I didn't get a convincing "wet" effect. everybody say "too shiny". I look forward to your comments on this one, thanks in advance and have a nice day
Really good Pawel,
Like the "Poncho" that's what we call it here. The leaf pattern turned out well. Adams point on the shine is a must to get it right.
Look forward to new photos.
*INDY Don't you love it when a plan comes together?
Don't you love it when a plan comes together?
I surely do! And that's one of my favourite lines too!
*INDY So you want a rainy day for photo? huh.... so you're going to try to have it raining in the background?--Or you mean you want it to be overcast (cloudy) so you have even light? Only thing 1st Pawel make sure you dullcote away any shinyness where it doesnt belong--only thing I saw in last photo needing done--a little shine on sandbags and figures uniforms I would try to kill--know waht I mean-otherwise Im really looking forward to final photos--have fun with it!
So you want a rainy day for photo? huh.... so you're going to try to have it raining in the background?--Or you mean you want it to be overcast (cloudy) so you have even light? Only thing 1st Pawel make sure you dullcote away any shinyness where it doesnt belong--only thing I saw in last photo needing done--a little shine on sandbags and figures uniforms I would try to kill--know waht I mean-otherwise Im really looking forward to final photos--have fun with it!
I actually want cloudy/overcast sky. For the light, but I also want some clouds over the horizon. I'll think about the dullcote too, thanks for the tip. Let's see what comes out of it, 'till next time
Pawel Well that's a nice thing you said Adam! Thanks a lot! And it's good to hear from you, too. Now I'm only waiting for a nice rainy day for good natural light foto opportunity and I'm going to call it done. Please stay tuned and have a nice day Pawel
Well that's a nice thing you said Adam! Thanks a lot! And it's good to hear from you, too. Now I'm only waiting for a nice rainy day for good natural light foto opportunity and I'm going to call it done. Please stay tuned and have a nice day
AWESOME! Its beggining to look really ReAL !!
Like it!
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I do too, in the early 70's in the Forest Service (civilian employee).
(C-rations)
Andy - glad to hear from you again. Please stay tuned - some more patience (I know it's taking a long time) and maybe I can make the dio just a little bit better. Now I'm actually waiting for a rainy day to take some good outside fotos.
Stikpusher - thanks for your comments! About the smokes - I read about that. But most of the Vietnam war the smokes were there. They eliminated them in 1975 (wikipedia). But that's nothing compared to the shelter half thing - it sure would be easier to read the article on vietnamgear, than paint the thing. Now I have to think about it - make another one, OD (easy) or use what I made???
What would you do? I hope for your advice, have a nice day
A couple quick points. Teh camo shelter half was USMC issue, not Army. Although some soldiers may have obtained them thru the usual unofficial methods. Nice job replicating the oakleaf pattern Pavel!
Another difference between the Vietnam (and earlier) C-rats and later ones- no cigarette pack in the ration. The DoD eliminated the smokes in the rations I would guestimate in the 70s.
F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!
U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!
N is for NO SURVIVORS...
- Plankton
LSM
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