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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:12 AM

 

Incredible build.  Really like everything you are doing.

 

As an aside, a really far aside ... anyone who has been involved in incident management cringes at the term "Working Bridge".... lol

 

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, September 10, 2018 7:41 PM

[quote user="PeterPan"]But first, I need to paint a background tone to get rid of that stark white as a comparison.[/qoute]

Yeah, that's something I occasionally have to relearn to do--paint it all first, add the detail after.

Hope to improve on this.

Heck of a good start, if uo ask me.

Get the rest of the shding in and it will "pop."

Give it a gloss coat and it will start in on "wet" too.

If you feel like experimenting, once you have a gloss coat down and dried, you can put a thin wash of acrylic in your "muddy water" color.  Thin, lots of water, so it shows through.  Let that dry, then another gloss coat.  Done right, you get stuff "floating" in the "water."

I will admit to using Liquitex Gloss Gel Medium to give a surface gloss coats with a teeny bit of thickness & ripples, too.  Palatte knife seemed to wwork best for this, although a fat stumpy brush was not bad.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:06 PM

Peter , Peter , Peter !

 Your effort looks okay for the shallow side of the river .You should have stuck with interior house paint ! Acrylic of course . 1 Pt. of each color blended as you go would've done your river bottom . Then you get the new melty stuff ( if it's available down there and pour a thin layer everywhere . You heat it and pour it .

 You are going to be fine , have faith Mate !

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, September 10, 2018 2:58 PM

Peter !

 Mud Puddle my B*^^ ! It took me four tries to get water right ! You'll do this .You don't strike me as one who gives up ! T.B.

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Posted by PeterPan on Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:17 PM

Thanks CapMac82. I will soldier on. Don't have any choice in that matter. I am also using a different technique in terms of adding the water look. I am using a cheaper medium . . . high gloss floor enamel.

Anyway, I sure stuffed up the paint job. Only done 1/10th of the water. Started along the river banks. The dirty water look became too brown, opaquish, blotchy, and dark on outer edge. 

It's been a long time since doing any painting, and have forgotten basic principles. The rest of the river will contain blues and greens, which is not mixed with the brownish areas already painted. Need to repaint what I have done with a better colour mix. But first, I need to paint a background tone to get rid of that stark white as a comparison. 

Hope to improve on this.

Peter

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:19 PM

PeterPan
Your above posts have skyrocketed above your expectations of my capability. I am doomed to disappoint. In all fairness, you would be better of looking at a mud puddle for a better comparison

That's a bit unfair.  You, are, as most of us are, too hard on yourself.

We all have setbacks, the trick is soldiering on.  Sometimes the best answer is put it all aside and do something else. 

In the video above, while watching that, when I saw how he was painting the water, my thought was "That's never going to work!"  That is, until he put the water effect on it.  What he had that I didn't was the off-camera experimentation that had tested the end effect first.  So, he made it look easy.

And I'm totally stealing the method he shows for the hanging vines.

Much as I'm stealing your technique using cork for rocks.

You have patience, perserverance, and practice; I have every faith in you (even if you are doubting yourself).

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:01 PM

To be fair, I lifted that photo off the 'net (since Kalmbach does not like linking from my google photos).

Was in your hood (Gruene) in July '17, but was part of a larger group.

Back when I was in Bryan, Comal Co was a popular get away.  And I had two sisteres who attended SWTS (now TSU), so, yeah, I may be familiar.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, September 9, 2018 9:45 AM

CapnMac82 ;

 Hey , if you were close enough to show that then you were close enough to stop by 436 Copper Hill dr. and say hello .

 That area is almost in my Backyard for sure . I go to Landa Park every two weeks to walk . You mention Wimberly .Well last year they got smashed by a Flash flood and two years ago every bridge in the park in New braunfels was destroyed .

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Posted by PeterPan on Saturday, September 8, 2018 11:48 PM

Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I blotched it up big time. I only painted 1/10th of the riverscape so far, and that turned out too dark from the beginning, but could not see it. Will have to repaint it.

Your above posts have skyrocketed above your expectations of my capability. I am doomed to disappoint. In all fairness, you would be better of looking at a mud puddle for a better comparison.

This is surely one of my bigger learning curves which will take a few weeks to grasp.

Will see you then.

Peter

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 8, 2018 10:40 PM

Oh, and this little feature is in Tanker's backyard:

Comal River in New Braunfels.  Starts in a spring and connects to the Guadalupe river and is entirely (all 1.8 miles of it) in the New Braunfels City Limits.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 8, 2018 10:37 PM

Tanker - Builder
because of the water features on our train layouts at the Rail Museum

Well, over there, you kinda have to, since nobody in Comal County has seen non-moving river water Smile

Unless they got off the Guadalupe and headed over to Wimberley to see the Blanco in full drought Smile 
Hmm, Hamiton Pool or the Blue Hole are pretty still waters--and modeling the colors in those would need some real artisite skills.
Easy-peasy, this (not):

In case of curiosity, these are spring waters association with the Edwards Aquifer, which is a glacial inclusion back about the First Ice Age.  The water is crystal clear, and filteres by percolating through miles of limestone.

 

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, September 8, 2018 8:48 AM

Hi Peter !

 I only mentioned it because of the water features on our train layouts at the Rail Museum . Plus , I did live in the San Joaquin/Sacramento river Delta for over ten years . Ebb tide or at Tidal ebb was interesting .

 There were areas where you would swear there was no kind of Tidal action and others Look Out  ! !  I told you I would follow . I am trying not to tailgate though . T.B.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, September 7, 2018 10:58 PM

For 2¢ (or tu'pence, one supposes) this fellow has an intersting technique for getting the color blending for water.  It's a long video, but he's got some interesting tips and tricks.

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Posted by PeterPan on Friday, September 7, 2018 4:14 PM

Thank you EJ, Gamera, and T.B.

Originally I wanted to show river flow direction on each of the bridge footings, etc,. However, the paper mache task itself was enough for me, so I dropped the idea. Besides, the river is tidal, so it has a slack tide, with no flow (that is my excuse).

Also, the tide is normally quite slow and hardly noticeable when examining the water flow around the footings. The only time it becomes really noticeable is during flood on an ebb tide.

The river colour is normally monotone brown-green like lentil-pea soup colour. This is mainly due to periodic rains. When there is a drought, the water clears up a bit, and becomes more of a teal colour (but still showing deep along the shallows).

However, I plan to make the water of varying shades of dark to light, indicating river depth. This is purely for educational reasons. It will show why the bridge-span was not just placed in the centre of the river. Below shows what I have in mind, of course the coloured strips will be blended into each other (hopefully).

Thank you T.B. for those helpful tips and reminders. They brought images and ideas to mind, and will try and incorporate some of them into the painting part. My primary goal is to somehow mix the shades from dark to light. I am going to use acrylic paints, so I am going to have less time to get it right, especially under the bridge.

Peter

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, September 7, 2018 8:58 AM

Peter :

 That's awesome , man ! I do have a question though . Does the river you modeled have any noticeable flow visible by surface disturbances ? If so , you might try to include this .This would affect the paint shading in the shallows .

 If it moves fairly noticeably and is a deep river your paint has to reflect this . Deeper is darker and the surface rills would be less foamy . Shallower and you would get foam and rills with little directional flow patterns similar to the boat's wake you did .

 There might even be areas wher you have some sandiness like a Beach , but not quite .Then there's your shore plants , reeds , grass and yes , some seaweed type stuff too .    The seaweed would be leaning in the direction of flow , remember .

 I don't know how strict the gov't groups that administer river areas are . If not , well , a discarded tyre could be employed too . I really like what you've done .When you get it finished , could you send me a DVD ? I would like to use it to show my team at my Museum ! Thanks and keep up the great work ! T.B.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 7, 2018 8:49 AM

Great to see you back to work on this! I love the wave action you've got going there, it's there but not overdone, looks like a nice peaceful day with a slight breeze. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Thursday, September 6, 2018 8:20 PM
All I can say is, WOW! EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by PeterPan on Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:41 PM

Thanks Steve, Pawel, T.B., and Gamera for your support and patience.

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Finally got through making 24 square feet of surafce water by using paper mache technique. It was one job I had lots of apprehension about, but not as intense as the one that is coming up - painting it.

Anyway, as usual I started with the least noticeable section of the display (Far left corner) and worked my way to the more noticeable (Near right corner). Hoping I will have improve the technique as I progress. This became true, and had to return to earlier sections to patch it up a bit.

 

 

 

 

Peter

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:24 PM

Pawel

Yeah, welcome back!

Where have you been?

Looking forward to more progres here!

Paweł

 

Ditto

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:06 AM

Oh Gee !

    That looks like the Guest Dock at my marina was . ( Wish I still had the place ) 

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 4:27 AM

Yeah, welcome back!

Where have you been?

Looking forward to more progres here!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 5:02 PM

Glad to see you back Peter.

Steve

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Posted by PeterPan on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:40 PM

The shire council snuck in a floating wharf while I was away.

 

 

 

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:07 PM

Thank you @modelcrazy, @mmthrax, @sharkbait, and @Tanker-Builder for your kind comments.

Will get back to this build shortly. Had a break by building something different, the U-2540 sub with interior.

Peter

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, June 3, 2018 6:09 AM

Peter ;

 The biggest problem with Bulls is that they will strike anything and they can survive well in Brackish and Fresh water for a time too . That part is what makes them dangerous in ways a great White or Hammerhead are not .

 The last hammerhead I saw was attacked by a smaller White .The white got a mouthfull of the hammerhead's head on one side .We got out of the water instantly then . Can you say feeding frenzy ?

 The White shot in from nowhere that day . The " H " head and his ( or her ) buddies had been hanging around for a while . Didn't bother any of us except a Brush - By every once in a while .

 Sad to say .If we as a group of nations don't curtail Shark hunting for fins , they won't be around long . All in their own way are Beautiful predators !

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, June 3, 2018 6:01 AM

Peter ;

 That is as nice a tribute to a friend as I have ever seen . I hope someone does one of me at my bench at the Museum when I leave here .

 It's hard to lose friends , especially long time ones . At my age it happens to often . Good on you mate ! ! 

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Posted by sharkbait on Friday, May 11, 2018 3:52 PM
Great stuff...well done!

You have never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3!

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Posted by mmthrax on Friday, May 11, 2018 11:59 AM

Very poignant and very cool.

Also, fantastic modelling work on the bike.

Bravo.Yes

Just keep picking away at it...

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, May 11, 2018 8:59 AM

That's a great tribute. Nice work on Muz.

Steve

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Posted by PeterPan on Friday, May 11, 2018 6:56 AM

Muz's health, of late, has deteriorated drastically (cancer). He and his wife have relocated to live with family. All our friends most probably won't be seeing Muz again.

Muz, and other road cyclist friends have asked me to add cyclists to the bridge diorama. I had not been able to find any road racing cyclist, or bicycle, models at 1/72 scale as of yet. So I have been delaying to make a model myself. Muz's condition urged me to give it a go, so I asked him to send me an email of him and his bike, so I can add him to the diorama. He will be waving goodbye.

 

Peter

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