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Posted by PeterPan on Friday, March 30, 2018 4:49 PM

T.B.

Yes, you are quite right.

It's a learning progress. The boat hull was wrong from the start. All the other errors came from two sources, my ignorance about boats and ships, and creating ad hoc models which I tend to make larger than necessary. It's built into me, and difficult to change. Unless I follow some other person's plan.

I once built stable yards from mature Stringybark trees. All the neighbours thought I was going to hold rhinos instead of Shetland ponies. In fact, all I had in mind was that the yard lasts at least 40 years, so I didn't have to rebuild it later...as an old guy.

Anyway, I am keeping it the way it is; unless the museum folk wish it to be otherwise.

Peter

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, March 30, 2018 4:00 PM

Hi ;

 I have a few comments about the Bouy Tender if you don't mind . I owned one I converted to a live -aboard House yacht .The bridge wings did NOT extend out past the hull .The deckhouse looks almost to large for the boat .

 In Marine Design we try to reduce rolling moment to manageable parameters .You are kind of stretching that . I hope you don't mind the critique . T.B. The rolling moment would be very brisk and when lifting a bouy , very Dangerous .

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, March 30, 2018 3:55 PM

Hmmm

 You should build bouys for sale ! Those are nothing but awesome ! T.B.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, March 30, 2018 3:54 PM

Oh ;

 Yoy don't have to pretend .Some were built with internal Winches .Looks Damn Good ! .

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Posted by PeterPan on Friday, March 30, 2018 4:47 AM

Thank you Gamera and ejhammer (EJ).

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Did some more work on the Buoy Tender, but soon came to a halt with certain indecisions. The best thing I can do in those circumstances is to do something else in the meantime. Usually I get decisive answers while doing something else. I'll get back to the boat later.

So, this is as far as I got with the boat.

 

 

Peter

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Thursday, March 29, 2018 2:49 PM
Great crane and bouys. Very good use of "stuff on hand". I am loving this build. EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 29, 2018 8:52 AM

Oh gee I've been falling behind- great job there on the figures and the cars. Nice crane and what big beautiful buoys! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by PeterPan on Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:55 PM

 

 

 

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:21 PM

Tanker - Builder
...The reason for the pill bottle ? the Triangular gussets on the base ring where it attaches to the deck .

 The pill bottle , after sanding to that ring is hollow . So the service storage under it can have an open w/t door  . This adds more detail to an otherwise plain base area .

 Oh , a note here .The cable on the cranes like that , Here in the States travel on Top of the arms in guides and the reel is on the top at the back or next to the base .T.B. 

Thanks for the tips.

Decided to forego the external winch and pretend that it is internal.

The black electrical wire is for hydraulic hoses. I added thick aluminium foil strips to immitate clamps (see below). Also inserted pinheads to immitate mounting bolts.

 

Peter

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:47 AM

Now :

 I have to comment .That is awesome . I would use a salvaged LEGO crane and a pill bottle base for the same thing .

 The reason for the pill bottle ? the Triangular gussets on the base ring where it attaches to the deck .

 The pill bottle , after sanding to that ring is hollow . So the service storage under it can have an open w/t door  . This adds more detail to an otherwise plain base area .

 Oh , a note here .The cable on the cranes like that , Here in the States travel on Top of the arms in guides and the reel is on the top at the back or next to the base .T.B.

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Posted by PeterPan on Monday, March 26, 2018 8:37 PM

So much for the u/s buoy.

Now, some these buoys are quite large, over 5 m (>16.4 feet). They obviously require a huge crane.

As usual, an ad hoc approach to its construction ought to suffice. Used scrap wood, nails, and black electrical wire.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Saturday, March 24, 2018 10:35 PM

Here is the storey I hope to convey for having a buoy tender up the river, an uncommon sight:

An old unserviceable buoy has broken loose and drifted upstream. It was found aground near the Wardell bridge. The buoy tender arrived to pick up the u/s buoy and replace it with a new one somewhere down stream.

While researching into buoys, and buoy tenders, I was surprise how big some of those buoys are. Also discovered that buoy tender crews are specialised, much like the fire brigade.

Anyway, I needed a break from making boats. So I branched off to make an old u/s buoy.

Used a red Biro, piece of broken broom handle, and thick copper wire for this model.

 

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Saturday, March 24, 2018 10:16 PM

CapnMac82

Outstanding wor, just gets better and better.

The Buoy Tender is an outstanding idea.

 

Thank you for your kind words.

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Saturday, March 24, 2018 10:14 PM

Bakster

This is a massive job worthy of kudos, just for the scale of it. Add the craftsmanship being done ... it is pretty off the scale. Really nice work. I can't wait to see the final product.

Thanks for compliment.

I too am looking forward to seeing the final product. It will be a while yet (to the curator's frustration Stick out tongue).

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Saturday, March 24, 2018 10:09 PM

Tanker - Builder

Peter , Peter !

 Stop , Your killing me ! Oh My gosh . Magnificient work . In wood yet .When I do stuff like , Correction , did stuff like this it was in Various forms of plexi and styrene .

 I still work exclusively in styrene . Good on You , for working in wood . 

 

Thanks, and good on you for working in plexi and styrene. Both of which I am foreign to.

Peter

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, March 24, 2018 9:52 PM

Outstanding wor, just gets better and better.

The Buoy Tender is an outstanding idea.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, March 24, 2018 10:28 AM

This is a massive job worthy of kudos, just for the scale of it. Add the craftsmanship being done ... it is pretty off the scale. Really nice work. I can't wait to see the final product.

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    June 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 24, 2018 10:05 AM

Peter , Peter !

 Stop , Your killing me ! Oh My gosh . Magnificient work . In wood yet .When I do stuff like , Correction , did stuff like this it was in Various forms of plexi and styrene .

 I still work exclusively in styrene . Good on You , for working in wood . 

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Posted by PeterPan on Friday, March 23, 2018 3:49 PM

Took a while to research and decide on the deck layout. I needed maximum room for carrying buoys. A double storey cabin at the bow section looked the best.

 

Adding the roof looked daunting at first. Decided to use a block of wood, screwed at each end, to hold the roof in place. Then it was easy to shape each window frame and glue it in place. Only super glued the frames to the ceiling, so I can take the block out later on.

Glued aluminium foil to ceiling. This stops all the super-glue getting soaked up into the Masonite and having no bondage to the wooden frames. Plus, the foil will reflect the LED light within the cabin, giving some more luminosity.

The three wires are for cabin and mast LED lights. Decided not to include live spotlights on the roof.

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Friday, March 23, 2018 3:25 PM

Tanker - Builder

Peter ;

 Stop , Stop ! Gees , your inventiveness is giving me joyous headaches . Good take there on the " Clem-Peter " .Would  "Peter Clem " sound more normal though .T.B.

Big Smile (wish they had a laughing Emoticon).

Well, T.B. you will just have to suffer Wink, because there is still a lot more to come.

Good question on the Peter-Clem. I think either way does not sound too good. It is better than using any of their surnames. I placed Clem first, because he was the main builder of the buoy _ signage diorama, and the museum's president at the time.

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Friday, March 23, 2018 3:13 PM

keavdog

Really enjoy this thread!  Whipping out the RC servos.  No holds barred!

This thread reminds me of my freshman year physics teacher: you can be someone who uses things, or understands things.

Thanks keavdog for compliment. 

Yep, we always do what we can, even if we never done it before. In this case, it is the bridge console which dictates what has to be done.

Peter

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, March 23, 2018 9:35 AM

Peter ;

 Stop , Stop ! Gees , your inventiveness is giving me joyous headaches . Good take there on the " Clem-Peter " .Would  "Peter Clem " sound more normal though .T.B.

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, March 23, 2018 12:54 AM

Really enjoy this thread!  Whipping out the RC servos.  No holds barred!

This thread reminds me of my freshman year physics teacher: you can be someone who uses things, or understands things.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by PeterPan on Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:48 PM

 

 

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 5:55 AM

So much for the figurines.

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Decided to add another boat to the sparce left side of the diorama. This boat will be made from the leftover parts from the previous two kits. A boat made from two stern sections. But it only needs one stern. The other end will get slightly shortened (wider) for an added bow section later on in the construction.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have been wondering what type of boat to make. At first I wanted to make a crane boat. Then certain things presented itself and now it will be a buoy tender. This diorama will replace another diorama; a model showing a portion of the Richmond River, here in Ballina. But its main display is the various types of buoys and navigational signs. It is an educational display built by two previous museum volunteers, Clem and Peter. Out of respect for their service, I am naming this buoy tender the CLEM-PETER.

Peter

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Posted by PeterPan on Saturday, March 17, 2018 4:17 AM

Thank you mmthrax, Gamera, and T.B. for your supportive kind words.

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The left side of the diorama is mostly vast empty space (river water). It needs some attraction. So I created a bit of drama with traffic approaching the traffic lights. In this case it will be the police farce force that is in trouble. Their car broke down.

Chopped up some figures to rearrange their posture. Added a 3 mm blue LED to a car and glued a printed highway patrol ID into the bonnet. Added a driver, and included a tall police officer to halt approaching traffic from behind.

This guy, somewhere along the riverbank, seems to have caught a fish.

Had lots of fun building these guys.

 

Peter

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, March 16, 2018 2:50 PM

Oh Boy ;

 I do like your sense of humor Peter .That part of the project is looking good .I even like the name .Something different for a change .

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 16, 2018 11:13 AM

Peter, you're a man of many talents! Great job on the woodwork, metalwork, electronics, figures, everything! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Plano (Dallas), Texas
Posted by mmthrax on Friday, March 16, 2018 9:19 AM

Totally digging this.  Ace work sir. Smile

Just keep picking away at it...

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Posted by PeterPan on Friday, March 16, 2018 6:08 AM

The boat will fit snugly onto an aluminium base plate, which is attached to an aluminium vane that goes through the 3 mm slot of the table top.

The vane itself is 2 mm. It has to have imbedded four electrical connections for controlling the boat's navigational lights. To do this I used a 1.5 mm pcb. The track side of the pcb will be 0.5 mm within the vane. So it won't get rubbed along the tabletop slot.

To be continued after I get certain ordered parts.

In the meantime, I started working on some figurines (next post).

Peter

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