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The Bullion Express--Boot Hill Express (Reboot 10-4-22)

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  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 5, 2021 6:49 PM

keavdog

Maybe look at dollhouse lighting kits - the double copper tape might fit the bill.

 

 

I bought some online many months back. I will see how well that works.

Thank you!

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 5, 2021 6:57 PM

A great source of copper tape are the stained glass window sites. I've bought miles of the stuff over the years for ship bottoms.

https://everythingstainedglass.com/stained-glass-tools

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 5, 2021 7:04 PM

GMorrison

A great source of copper tape are the stained glass window sites. I've bought miles of the stuff over the years for ship bottoms.

https://everythingstainedglass.com/stained-glass-tools

Bill

 

What they have looks very much like what I purchased. I will test what I have tomorrow and report back. 

Thanks Bill!

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 5, 2021 7:26 PM

Tanker-Builder

Aha! Bakster!!

 Another Human who knows what CattyWhampus is, YAY!!!

 

Lol.  Yes

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:21 AM

She's lookin' good!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 2:53 PM

Gamera

She's lookin' good!

 

Thanks Gam!

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 2:57 PM

Bakster

 

 
GMorrison

A great source of copper tape are the stained glass window sites. I've bought miles of the stuff over the years for ship bottoms.

https://everythingstainedglass.com/stained-glass-tools

Bill

 

 

 

What they have looks very much like what I purchased. I will test what I have tomorrow and report back. 

Thanks Bill!

 

Hey Bill, I am sorry to report that my copper tape is not conductive on the sticky side. I put an Ohm meter on it and I couldn't get conductivity. Maybe if I scraped off the glue some it might work. Didn't try that.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 2:59 PM

Bakster
Hey Bill, I am sorry to report that my copper tape is not conductive on the sticky side. I put an Ohm meter on it and I couldn't get conductivity. Maybe if I scraped off the glue some it might work. Didn't try that.

Bill, are you scraping off the glue?

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 4:29 PM

I was off work today and made more progress. The afternoon got hot so, down to the dungeon I went.

I made the gasket looking piece from styrene. This then will block from view the remaining ugliness. I used CA to fill the joins where it meets the roof. When viewed from below and once painted, it will look like one solid piece.

 

Below:

As it will look. I also cut holes and made frames for the openings. I will add some rivet detail to the rectangular frame. I will also add roof supports that I will add rivets to. 

About the rectangular opening: I figured I might as well keep the opening there. This will account for a person to operate the turret gun (EM guns). It will be interesting to see how my interior lighting leaches into the turret housing and maybe backlight the guns? Maybe?

And speaking of lighting. I am leaning towards using a standard T 1 3/4 Led. The shape has the sort of elongated dome look that I am looking for. I have some ideas to dress it up some too. We will see.

End of update.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 5:00 PM

Did I say turret gun? I meant EM guns. Sheesh.

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 11:35 AM

Well;

 Lotsa work, But, your getting there!

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 5:22 PM

Tanker-Builder

Well;

 Lotsa work, But, your getting there!

 

You betcha. Yes I think it will be worth the effort. Thanks TB.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:04 PM

Brackets and rivets added. I used U channel stock as roof supports. OSHA may not like this because you can catch your noggin on the edges. Easy to do while tossing gold bars and operating the EM guns. But hey--Nemo does not follow the world order. Nemo says, wear a helmet. Wink Yes

The light will be positioned between the two center braces. I will work on the light next.

PS: I had to order more of the rivets. I used up the smallest ones.

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, July 8, 2021 2:46 PM

Since the original was built before OSHA was even thought of, I wouldn't worry too much about them.  Besides, the EM guns will send them packing in short order.

Looking real nice.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, July 8, 2021 3:05 PM

Lol. And you are right! Well before OSHA.

Thanks GH.

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 9, 2021 10:01 AM

Looks good!!! Love the rivets, it really gives the steampunk vibe!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, July 9, 2021 1:36 PM

OhOh!

 Now rhar's looking  awesome!!

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 10, 2021 12:56 PM

Gamera

Looks good!!! Love the rivets, it really gives the steampunk vibe!

 

Thanks Cliff. Yeah, it gives just a tasting of steampunk. Yes

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 10, 2021 12:57 PM

Tanker-Builder

OhOh!

 Now rhar's looking  awesome!!

 

Thanks TB!

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, July 10, 2021 3:33 PM

Bakster
it gives just a tasting of steampunk.

In a lot of graphic arts versions, dissimilar metals can be very common against painted finishes.  Like brass or bronze rivets or hex nuts over similar washers.  Which can contrast nicely with painted finishes.

If being a pain to model.

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, July 11, 2021 1:40 PM

Cool stuff going on with this build Steve. Loving this.

                   

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  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 11, 2021 2:35 PM

CapnMac82
In a lot of graphic arts versions, dissimilar metals can be very common against painted finishes.  Like brass or bronze rivets or hex nuts over similar washers.  Which can contrast nicely with painted finishes.

Agreed. That's what makes a piece visually pop!

 

CapnMac82
If being a pain to model.

Also agreed. I'd love to do this here but sometimes a person has to say, good enough. Smile

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 11, 2021 2:37 PM

mustang1989

Cool stuff going on with this build Steve. Loving this.

 

Hey Joe, thanks! So glad you are enjoying this.

Thanks for following. It's not a party if I'm the only one there. 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 11, 2021 3:19 PM

Work on the light is done.

I opted to place the connection points at the back of the carriage. I can hide wiring more readily because of the rear doors and curtains. 

Some things I can note:

 

1. The Led color is a sort of lime green. It is an odd color for an odd build.

2. I was pleased at how easily the copper tape takes to solder. It worked like a charm.

3. I cut grooves for the wiring to help recess them. I can't have a raised profile, or the roof and ceiling won't lay flat. In a few areas I had to remove some material under the roof for this goal. They are hidden by the ceiling piece though.

4. I tested the Led within the carriage and I doubt it will backlight the EM guns. The Led is not a high intensity sort. Maybe in a completely dark environment it could. Either way, it's not a deal breaker. That was not my goal; it would have been a plus. The main purpose for the light is to drop a spotlight on the gold bars I'll have stacked below it. And for that purpose, I think it will be perfect. It drops a nice circle of light on the carriage floor. I'd like to have shown you an image of it, but I'd need 4 hands to accomplish that.

I made the Led base out of the same stock I used for the ceiling. I lowered its profile some though, through sanding.

 

 

The mechanicals are for the most part done. I can move towards painting the assembly.

One other thing. Once when I have the assembly painted, I will attempt to fashion a  cage for the lamp, sort of like below. 

 

 End of update

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 12, 2021 5:48 PM

Ohhhhhh, that looks cool! I wanna see it all lighted up though! 

Good luck with the lanterns!!! 

 

BTW: Guy at work was bitten by a copperhead while cleaning his garage Sat. Maybe feral hogs aren't so bad compared to poison snakes... Huh? 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 12, 2021 7:07 PM

Gamera
BTW: Guy at work was bitten by a copperhead while cleaning his garage Sat. Maybe feral hogs aren't so bad compared to poison snakes... 

Not sure what is worse. Copperheads are no joke. What more can you tell us? How well did he come out?

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 12, 2021 9:31 PM

Bakster

 

 
Gamera
BTW: Guy at work was bitten by a copperhead while cleaning his garage Sat. Maybe feral hogs aren't so bad compared to poison snakes... 

 

Not sure what is worse. Copperheads are no joke. What more can you tell us? How well did he come out?

 

 

He seems to be fine, he was at work today. Just a small snake, about a yard/metre long- still as you put it no joke. He was at the hospital a couple of hours while they pumped him full of anti-venom though an IV. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Monday, July 12, 2021 9:39 PM

Yikes!!! Any snake bite is a bad snake bite. Big fan of reptiles in general but some don't play nice. 

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 8:15 AM

Gamera
He seems to be fine, he was at work today. Just a small snake, about a yard/metre long- still as you put it no joke. He was at the hospital a couple of hours while they pumped him full of anti-venom though an IV

Glad to hear there was a good outcome. Phew. 

  • Member since
    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 8:50 AM

Snakes, you say...???

I got plenty of em.  Diamond backs , Mohavies... let me know if you need any..

( BTW, just shot a diamondback last Sunday morning. Right at the back door.... my stupid cat was thinking about playing with it so it was " rattling " pretty loud.)

Nice job on the interior roof. Placing rivets always  causes "MADDNESS"  for me.

If you look at some model train sites, you may find some ready made "cages" for your light. But I have made them out of thin brass wire ( 1/87 scale)  so it can be done.

 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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