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The Bullion Express (Boot Hill Express)

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  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, April 30, 2021 6:12 AM

Just now saw this one. I'm looking forward to seeing some progress on this one bud.

                   

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, April 30, 2021 4:05 PM

mustang1989
I'm looking forward to seeing some progress on this one bud. Add Quote to your

Hey Joe, that makes two of us. Hoping to have a small update tomorrow.

Thanks for following the build sir. 

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, May 1, 2021 8:40 AM

Hi Gamera:

        Yeah Me Too! Long before the T.V. show " Tanked" I was trying out different stuff for my own plastic Fabrication facility; We specifically re-did safety windows in Construction and Fairground equipment. Sometimes Lexan or Plexi was cheaper and stronger.

      I was always experimenting with Mundane around the house stuff for Fish. I had one tank that would turn around in a defunct Microwave and Another in a T.V. My all time favorite was a Large tea set with a fish in the pot.Which was double walled so it looked like tea but the fish was in pure water. One fish to a cup too!

      Ma Bell would've killed me. I copied the Phone base for an Aquarium too ! Turn the dial and a treat dropped in the tank. I even had a Kitchen wall at home that held Reef Fish. That was a zinger. With fishes protected from Stove Heat by a thin space betwen aquairum walls with cooled water running through it!

       I only did this for a hobby. I still remember some weird ones too. How about a false Toilet Tank with Pirahna inside it! I never finished it, But during the 1950 AutoRama Show G.M.- or Chrysler, had a completely clear bodied car. That was the seed that grew into the weird stuff I tried in that shop. We even were going to try to build a modern car that way, Mother Nature put a stop to that hobby!

      Funny though, Doing fun stuff like that was always a part of my work environment.When I did Engineering consultant work I had a Briefcase that had an All Plastic Timepiece in the top. It worked after a fashion. It was mainly to show off our Plastic Machining abilities! All in the back rooms of a full Blown real life Auto Body shop!

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 1, 2021 3:11 PM
5-1-21 Update
 
As mentioned, this engine is more power plant than anything else. It is a Nemo reactor that creates massive power stepped down to a workable voltage. The gizmo on the front of the engine block is the voltage converter. So, this vehicle is electric.  Btw. The power generated by this PP is overkill, but it is what Nemo had laying around. It is one of his first generation PPs.
 
A few things to note:
 
1. I sanded out, "Chrysler Firepower" from the valve covers. It was not fitting for the project to have them.
 
2. I drilled holes into the valve covers where sparkplug wires would go. Instead -- I will install fiber optic cable. My first thought was to illuminate the ports, but as I type this it occurred to me that I could run the cables like sparkplug wires. I will have to think about that one.
 
3. I had to cover the hole meant for the generator/pully assembly on the front of the block. I will probably insert the LED through that hole and the voltage converter assembly will then cover it. 
 
4. I plan to make ports between the valve covers at the top of the block. I will use clear acrylic rod encased within brass tube. The brass tube will dress things up. The ports act as windows into the powerplant. If it goes as planned, it gives access to the changing light within the PP. It should make for a nice effect.
 
5. The frame of the vehicle has a wicked twist. You can sort of see it in the image, top right. I worked it out by carefully heating the piece via candle flame. I have it looking pretty good now.

That's where I am at. 
 
 
The Back Story


The period is mid 1800s and Nemo is at his peak for technological development. Though, Nemo is a wealthy man-- his funds are not unlimited. If Nemo is to realize his dream and shunt mankind's slant for destruction--he needs more funding. Nemo strikes a deal with a US gold prospector. He grubstakes the man and provides him with a horseless carriage to ferry gold bullion through the Boot Hill Mountains. And of course, Nemo designs the contraption with his typical technological flare.

This will be the basis for the Dio. More on that at another time. 

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 1, 2021 3:32 PM

PS. Had a lot of problems posting this last update. I was getting the forbidden error message. Pretty frustrating. I had to start a new post cutting and pasting everything  from Word. Things got jumbled doing it that way and I had to edit it once it went through. 

I hope this is not how its gonna be.

 

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, May 1, 2021 4:21 PM

Bakster
Apparently, resin is manufactured in Texas

For many of the same reasons glass is made in Minnesota, like as not.

And, the petroleum byproducts and waste material are near the other petrochemical plants.  And, those materials need all kinds of eleaborate storage to maintain pressure, temperature, etc.

The "fallout" from that one week of absurd spring Winter still crops up.  Was at my retina doc and the vinyl base and all the gluee-down carpet were ripped out of their new-in-December office.  Turns out the sprinkler system froze and left 3-4" of water i nthe entire office.  And, guess what, vinyl base supply is down due to the vinyl plants around Houston still being in clean-up mode after the winter event (which is now being advanced as a  500-year storm event).

Logistics was in a bind even before the couf, and still has not much recovered, so, getting the material, once it's available, will not be swift.

A reactor? 

Hmm.  Have you formed a notion on how the power is to be transmitted to the tires?  Steam turbine seems unlikely.  Which leaves electrical motor.  High-output electrical motors need some way to dissipate heat while in use. 

Water or air cooling are traditional.  Both allow for artistic interpretation of color retempering, if a person wanted to.

Mind, a person can make things look how they want, too.  Want the reactor to glow in eerie colors--that's cool.  Warp plasma is blue in Star Trek, except for when it's red.  Smile

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:15 PM

CapnMac82
The "fallout" from that one week of absurd spring Winter still crops up.  Was at my retina doc and the vinyl base and all the gluee-down carpet were ripped out of their new-in-December office.  Turns out the sprinkler system froze and left 3-4" of water i nthe entire office.  And, guess what, vinyl base supply is down due to the vinyl plants around Houston still being in clean-up mode after the winter event (which is now being advanced as a  500-year storm event).

It's unreal that that winter event reverberates until today. And in my industry of work it might haunt us for another three months. Or at least, that is what we are being told. We are already into it two months with maybe three months to go. That's just crazy talk.

CapnMac82
Logistics was in a bind even before the couf, and still has not much recovered, so, getting the material, once it's available, will not be swift.

Exactly. If anything, logistics is worse today than it was before. I can tell you some stories and I am sure you can too.

CapnMac82
Which leaves electrical motor.  High-output electrical motors need some way to dissipate heat while in use

You nailed it. This is electrical and with an electrical motor. You also nailed the heat part of it. I was thinking that where the velocity stacks exit the roof, I could make an old world stovepipe vent for heat dissipation.

I had another crazy thought. Since this carriage is designed for mining... maybe I should slap an auger to the front of it. Afterall, that is just the sort of thing Nemo would do! Stick out tongue Just spitballing on that.

CapnMac82
Mind, a person can make things look how they want, too.  Want the reactor to glow in eerie colors--that's cool.  Warp plasma is blue in Star Trek, except for when it's red

Bingo.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:37 PM

Btw. I have mentioned the twisted frame. I noticed in at least one of the YouTube builds that their end view of the model looks twisted. Maybe the twisted frame is a common problem with the kit. Maybe that was part of the problem I had building it as a kid? It kind of rings a bell now that I am thinking about it.

Or maybe not. I didn't catch it at first but one guy installed a leaf spring backwards, on the other video the guy inverted the entire differential assembly. Or maybe they did that to compensate for the twisted frame?

Just more food for thought. 

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:12 AM

Ya Know!

 That's funny. After all these years I remember that ridiculous frame twist. I think it was from too hot on release and unstable surface to cool on (more frames).

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:48 AM

Tanker-Builder
I remember that ridiculous frame twist.

Ha! Good way of putting it. Rediculous is right. It all came back to me too. I remember that as a kid I was so disappointed. The first thing you build is the motor. Your are thinking, cool... that went well. Then wham... out comes the frame. I added the leaf springs and differential but when I considered how bad it looked, I scrapped the idea of building the model. It looked horrid seeing it all twisted. There was no point in moving forward. I was probably 7 or 8 years old and heat bending was not on my radar. But that is the garbage model makers made then, "It's twisted... just ship it."

 

Tanker-Builder
I think it was from too hot on release

I think the same.

 

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 2, 2021 6:31 PM

Bakster
I had another crazy thought. Since this carriage is designed for mining... maybe I should slap an auger to the front of it. Afterall, that is just the sort of thing Nemo would do! Stick out tongue Just spitballing on that.

Wow, a bronze & brass (& gold) steampunk auger would be cool.

All screw threads and actuator arms instead of hydraulics, too.

If sticking to 19th century steampunk, some excellent opportunities for electrical motors w/o casings--with wound magnet magnet cores poking out and all.  Or, more opportunities for brass Smile

Bent frames are complicated.  Some asymmetry is within steampunk asthretic, ut how much is enough and how much is just less-good modeling.  The Endless dilemma of the Modeler.

Hmm, just thought about pre-carbon black added natural rubber for tires.  Showing road dust on pale gray rubber could be a task.   But, the effect against brass rims and spokes would be cool.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:52 PM

CapnMac82
Wow, a bronze & brass (& gold) steampunk auger would be cool. All screw threads and actuator arms instead of hydraulics, too.

Oh man. You may have just talked me into it.

 

CapnMac82
Hmm, just thought about pre-carbon black added natural rubber for tires.  Showing road dust on pale gray rubber could be a task.   But, the effect against brass rims and spokes would be cool.

I was thinking that for the tires, doing something similar to below.

Out goes the rubber tires, in comes ironclad. The rims will be spoked and of simulated wood. The reality of it is that they wouldn't stand up to the torque they would endure, but it's what I have on hand. I have some old style wheels I was going to convert. Unless I can source some iron styled rims, or find a way to fabricate them. Iron would be ideal. But what I have should look good too.

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:55 PM

PS:  Notice the stovepipe in that image. That is what I plan to do.

  • Member since
    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, May 3, 2021 1:38 AM

You should look at some old Mack wheels.Monogram made a few 1926 Mack's and their wheels look " bulletproof!

Also, your smokestack idea has a " steamboat" feel to it. When I built my  Natches steamboat, I went to a beading/ jewelry store and dug around in their findings bins. I found a perfect stack topper that looks exactly like the one in your picture.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, May 3, 2021 7:40 AM

Now;

 You know why most of it wound up as a small acquarium for a Siamese Fighting Fish. He stayed small that way too! No Frame under the thing. Just enough to look that way.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, May 3, 2021 11:39 AM

Oh wow!!!

I wouldn't let Clapper near the fusion power plant though unless you want another Chernobyl...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 3, 2021 12:04 PM

Gamera

Oh wow!!!

I wouldn't let Clapper near the fusion power plant though unless you want another Chernobyl...

 

Lol. So true. But guess who did come too close? Yes indeed... Bones McGee. Stick out tongue

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 3, 2021 12:05 PM

Tanker-Builder

Now;

 You know why most of it wound up as a small acquarium for a Siamese Fighting Fish. He stayed small that way too! No Frame under the thing. Just enough to look that way.

 

Lol. That is a hoot, TB. I guess I didn't get that memo.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 3, 2021 12:21 PM

littletimmy
You should look at some old Mack wheels.Monogram made a few 1926 Mack's and their wheels look " bulletproof!

Hey Tim, those rims look perfect. Way to pull that out of your.... HAT. Just one problem with this. Discontinued kit, high price, and I'd hate to waste a good model for just the rims. Thanks on that. I like them for this project.

 

littletimmy
Also, your smokestack idea has a " steamboat" feel to it. When I built my  Natches steamboat, I went to a beading/ jewelry store and dug around in their findings bins. I found a perfect stack topper that looks exactly like the one in your picture.

Good point about the smokestack and steamboats. That didn't occur to me. What I was thinking about are the contraptions in the Wild Wild West. They seemed to have that sort of thing. I think Loveless had a tank or something with that kind of stack. Btw, loved that show, still do. 

Weird about the jewelry store. I will toss that around. Maybe Michael's will have something. Otherwise, making one shouldnt be that tough. The only issue I see is what to use on them flame shapes. I'd need something bendable, it holds its shape, it's easy to cut, and it is fairly thin. 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 3, 2021 12:32 PM

Bakster
The only issue I see is what to use on them flame shapes. I'd need something bendable, it holds its shape, it's easy to cut, and it is fairly thin. 

It just occurred to me that sheet styrene might work. I think it would fit all those requirements. 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 3, 2021 12:44 PM

Hey Tim. Maybe Mr Haney has some rims for sale. Can you check with him the next time he comes around?  Stick out tongue

  • Member since
    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, May 3, 2021 3:20 PM

I'm gonna send you a PM when I get home ( I'm still at work )

I think I have a few items in my " junkyard"  that you could use .

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

  • Member since
    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, May 3, 2021 10:28 PM

I had to send you an e-mail....

Apparently, the private messaging no longer works for me. 

let me know if those will work.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 3, 2021 10:33 PM

CapnMac82
I don't know how anyone of a certain age is not instantly triggered with momories of those "art" kits.  Many of us built them, to lesser and greater (usually lesser) success. (Rommel's Rod, anyone?)

yep, dropped the rear end on mine and bolted in the traction end of a Tamiya 251.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 3, 2021 10:36 PM

CapnMac82
Bakster I had another crazy thought. Since this carriage is designed for mining... maybe I should slap an auger to the front of it. Afterall, that is just the sort of thing Nemo would do! Stick out tongue Just spitballing on that. Wow, a bronze & brass (& gold) steampunk auger would be cool. All screw threads and actuator arms instead of hydraulics, too.

most gold recovery in california was accomplished with hydraulic mining. i have all of the plated sprues from the Revel 'firefighter" ship if you want them, including "monitor " nozzles.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 3, 2021 10:41 PM

That stupid old John Wayne movie, (not John Wayne as he was a Morrison) called the "War wagon", it had a monitor like turret with a Gatling gun. Need one of those.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 3, 2021 10:46 PM

Bakster

E Clampus Vitus.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 3, 2021 11:41 PM

GMorrison

 

 
Bakster
 

 

E Clampus Vitus.

 

 

Bill

 

Yes

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 3, 2021 11:49 PM

GMorrison

That stupid old John Wayne movie, (not John Wayne as he was a Morrison) called the "War wagon", it had a monitor like turret with a Gatling gun. Need one of those.

 

Hey Bill... what scale is it? That could make a nice addition to the project. I am not installing the finials that came with the kit, I hate them things. So, I may have room for the turret. That could be cool.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 3, 2021 11:55 PM

GMorrison

 

 
CapnMac82
Bakster I had another crazy thought. Since this carriage is designed for mining... maybe I should slap an auger to the front of it. Afterall, that is just the sort of thing Nemo would do! Stick out tongue Just spitballing on that. Wow, a bronze & brass (& gold) steampunk auger would be cool. All screw threads and actuator arms instead of hydraulics, too.

 

most gold recovery in california was accomplished with hydraulic mining. i have all of the plated sprues from the Revel 'firefighter" ship if you want them, including "monitor " nozzles.

 

 

 I can't say for sure I would use it, or can fit it, but it's possible and it has serious potential. You sure you want to part with this? 

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