I have a .46 RC cub and one of my favorite things was when we had a crosswind on the runway and you have to crab it in.  Fun little plane once you master the adverse yaw.

On a side note (no pun intended) I was on a little Embraer (or Fokker) turbo  prop from San Diego to LAX.  Landing in heavy wind and rain at LAX on approach I was looking down the runway from my port window seat  - serious crabbing there

CapnMac82

Magnets for the roof, then you can really waffle

Ha! Laughing. Not a bad idea but this time I will go with a press fit scenario. 

CapnMac82

Is not happy about fireworks at all (no with those ears).  Six Flags shot off a batch Firday night, and last night.  They had a batch at Jerryworld last night, too. She's not going to much enjoy tonight, there wil lbe either 4 or 5 shows within human earshot.  Sigh.  She's not keen on thunder, either, and we still have t-storms in the forecast, too.

Sorry to report the image is not comng through.

Yeah. My Cat does not like it either. I must be getting old because I am not a fan either! Turning into an old grouch.

Bakster

I am stil waffling on the removeable roof. Putting the work into doing so is the velocity killer. I will attempt it though and see how it goes. That's all for now. Hope you all are having a great weekend and to those here in the States, a great 4th!

Magnets for the roof, then you can really waffle

I'm having a most excellent 3 day w/e indoors in the a/c.

She:

Is not happy about fireworks at all (no with those ears).  Six Flags shot off a batch Firday night, and last night.  They had a batch at Jerryworld last night, too.

She's not going to much enjoy tonight, there wil lbe either 4 or 5 shows within human earshot.  Sigh.  She's not keen on thunder, either, and we still have t-storms in the forecast, too.

Tanker-Builder

 Aha!    

     The point is well understood. But Remember, A plane flies ONLY when the wind is passing OVER the wings at the proper speed. Go too slow and you start losing lift. Remember, airplanes don't have like birds-Hollow Bones! As far as sideways watch some of the big planes landing at your local Airport- Many times they are cockeyed to the runway because of the SideDrafts!.

     Also remember what makes the Piper Cub a great trainer? With the wing loading area it will try to fly at ridiclously low speeds. Like 20 miles an hour in a headwind! Many times planes actually fly cattywhampus to the direction they are going. They are still on course, but the aircraft is slightly crooked in it's forward motion.  

 

Ok. Very good sir, thanks for splaining.

It is hot and humid here this wonderful 4th, and so the heat drove me inside. I did get a little morning time outside though. After I post this I will head to the dungeon where it's cool and see what more damage I can do.  

Not a lot has been accomplished since my last post. I did fit and glue the forward wall to the others. I held off on that piece because I wanted to sort out if I can install the floor later, after it's attached. I tested it, and I can.

I am stil waffling on the removeable roof. Putting the work into doing so is the velocity killer. I will attempt it though and see how it goes.

That's all for now. Hope you all are having a great weekend and to those here in the States, a great 4th!

Tanker-Builder

 Aha!    

     The point is well understood. But Remember, A plane flies ONLY when the wind is passing OVER the wings at the proper speed. Go too slow and you start losing lift. Remember, airplanes don't have like birds-Hollow Bones! As far as sideways watch some of the big planes landing at your local Airport- Many times they are cockeyed to the runway because of the SideDrafts!.

     Also remember what makes the Piper Cub a great trainer? With the wing loading area it will try to fly at ridiclously low speeds. Like 20 miles an hour in a headwind! Many times planes actually fly cattywhampus to the direction they are going. They are still on course, but the aircraft is slightly crooked in it's forward motion.  

 

Just like a sailboat/ship tacking into the wind.

And here I thought the thread was about nuclear powered armored trucks!

All goood fun!

Bill

It Might and it Can!

 Aha!    

     The point is well understood. But Remember, A plane flies ONLY when the wind is passing OVER the wings at the proper speed. Go too slow and you start losing lift. Remember, airplanes don't have like birds-Hollow Bones! As far as sideways watch some of the big planes landing at your local Airport- Many times they are cockeyed to the runway because of the SideDrafts!.

     Also remember what makes the Piper Cub a great trainer? With the wing loading area it will try to fly at ridiclously low speeds. Like 20 miles an hour in a headwind! Many times planes actually fly cattywhampus to the direction they are going. They are still on course, but the aircraft is slightly crooked in it's forward motion.  

Gamera

The being blown sideways sounds pretty friggin' scary. And going backwards- I'd be very afraid the plane would stall out on me. 

 

Our posts passed. Lol. Same thought kind of.

Tanker-Builder

The flying Backwards thing isn't B.S. Once, going to an airshow in Colorado I hit headwinds so strong I had the engines at full throttle and I was still dropping toward Stall Speed.

Here is a dumb question. If the wind is so strong to the point a plane becomes motionless in terms of forward progress--doesn't the wind over the wings provide the lift needed to keep the plane in the air? At what point does it become stall speed? When the plane is forced backwards?

Updated. Not trying to be a smart aleck. Just curious about this whole subject.

The being blown sideways sounds pretty friggin' scary. And going backwards- I'd be very afraid the plane would stall out on me. 

Greg

 

 

GMorrison

Last fire season I watched the big DC-10 work a canyon about ten miles south. They'd go down in there a lot closer to the ground than I'd be ok with, drop their load, and the a/c would pop up 1000 ft right there.

 

 

That would be a neat thing to see for sure.

 

Greg

Thanks for thinking of me this AM, Steve. I can see that YouTube being of great interest to any modeler who is also a Star Wars fan. Being lifelong sci-fi fan, I'm baffled why I never had any interest in the Star Wars brand. I think one day I will start streaming and change my opinion, as I recently did with the Battlestar Gallactica franchise.

Yeah I seem to recall you are not a fan but the stories the guys talk about with their builds are kind of funny.

Greg

Dad apparently owned a Cub Coupe before my arrival on the planet. When asked why he gave up flying, he always told the story about flying back from Detroit one day, and noticed the semi's below him on I94 were passing him was what made him give up flying. I don't think that was the real reason, but I have little doubt the story itself was true

That might be disconcerting! 

Tanker-Builder

I must say;

 The flying Backwards thing isn't B.S. Once, going to an airshow in Colorado I hit headwinds so strong I had the engines at full throttle and I was still dropping toward Stall Speed. Turned to port and went sideways for a While I am sure, But that seemed to help!

 

Not funny but it sounds found. Something you would see in a cartoon.

I must say;

 The flying Backwards thing isn't B.S. Once, going to an airshow in Colorado I hit headwinds so strong I had BOTH! the engines at full throttle and I was still dropping toward Stall Speed. Turned to port and went sideways for a While I am sure, But that seemed to help!

Bakster

Hey so Greg... for your morning coffee... and for anyone else lucky to be off work this AM, watch this short video. Kind of interesting relating to models. Fun stories.

Thanks for thinking of me this AM, Steve. I can see that YouTube being of great interest to any modeler who is also a Star Wars fan. Being lifelong sci-fi fan, I'm baffled why I never had any interest in the Star Wars brand. I think one day I will start streaming and change my opinion, as I recently did with the Battlestar Gallactica franchise.

By the way, one more slow airplane tale.....

Dad apparently owned a Cub Coupe before my arrival on the planet. When asked why he gave up flying, he always told the story about flying back from Detroit one day, and noticed the semi's below him on I94 were passing him was what made him give up flying.

I don't think that was the real reason, but I have little doubt the story itself was true.

GMorrison

Last fire season I watched the big DC-10 work a canyon about ten miles south. They'd go down in there a lot closer to the ground than I'd be ok with, drop their load, and the a/c would pop up 1000 ft right there.

That would be a neat thing to see for sure.

F-in-law was 'owner' of two aircraft types in WW2 armed with four 20mm cannons in the belly. When all four fired, it took 20kt off ground airspeed.

Last fire season I watched the big DC-10 work a canyon about ten miles south. They'd go down in there a lot closer to the ground than I'd be ok with, drop their load, and the a/c would pop up 1000 ft right there.

EDIT above, It wasn't the little DC-10 ...

Fluid dynamics are a wonderful thing.

Wildlife? Lot's of deer, bobcats, the occasional cougar.

Turkeys and turkey vultures.

Bill

Greg

We may never know, Stevie.

In my best Ed McMahon voice, "you are correct sir."

Hey so Greg... for your morning coffee... and for anyone else lucky to be off work this AM, watch this short video. Kind of interesting relating to models. Fun stories.

Have to keep Greg juiced up with stuff for a pleasurable morning breakfast.

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I get that.

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But thanks for making that point Greg because I can see how a person can interpret my post.

Don didnt correct me and actually, I was waiting to hear if he would. I was kind of surprised he didnt. His jovial laugh said it all. He made up the story. He loved to tell a good yarn. 

Which by the way made me question his squirrel story. When I called balderdash on him, his wife Sonia absolutely backed it up. I thought for sure he was pulling my leg but Sonia was a straight shooter. 

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Yep.

Also, if he was USAF trained, maybe he's never flown anything slow enough to produce a negative groundspeed with enough headwind, so I suppose it's possible he thought he was making a funny.

We may never know, Stevie.

Edit: Yikes. the quoted quote sure formatted goofy.

CapnMac82

Six Flags over Texas, GlobeLife Ballpark Hurricane Harbor, and AT&T Stadium (aka jerryworld) are only a couple miles from each other, and the trio is within two miles of my house. So, I have "attractions" that draw in people from all over (out of State plates are hugely common sight).  Which also draws in those who prey upon those sort of folks (and random vagrants, beggars, and similar grifters). Mind, the cesspool which is Dallas is only 20 miles away, too. Which is why I recently added a SIG 365X to my collection.

That is a hoot.Thanks for sharing that! I think I had seen some of them sort on the program I watched. They had a gaggle of guys shooting up the forest. The only problem with this is their shot reached a neghbors house peppering their vehicles. No brains. Maybe they had a lobotomy. :)

CapnMac82

Feral pig can be gamey, very gamey--probably more than most folks would want for a Sunday roast. Add Quote to your Post

Yeah I was afraid of that. Darn things aren't even good eating.

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I get that.

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But thanks for making that point Greg because I can see how a person can interpret my post.

Don didnt correct me and actually, I was waiting to hear if he would. I was kind of surprised he didnt. His jovial laugh said it all. He made up the story. He loved to tell a good yarn. 

Which by the way made me question his squirrel story. When I called balderdash on him, his wife Sonia absolutely backed it up. I thought for sure he was pulling my leg but Sonia was a straight shooter. 

Bakster

You didn't mention the two legged sort of critter varmin.

Six Flags over Texas, GlobeLife Ballpark Hurricane Harbor, and AT&T Stadium (aka jerryworld) are only a couple miles from each other, and the trio is within two miles of my house.

So, I have "attractions" that draw in people from all over (out of State plates are hugely common sight).  Which also draws in those who prey upon those sort of folks (and random vagrants, beggars, and similar grifters).

Mind, the cesspool which is Dallas is only 20 miles away, too.

Which is why I recently added a SIG 365X to my collection.

Feral pig can be gamey, very gamey--probably more than most folks would want for a Sunday roast.

I get that.

Greg

And about the Irishman's story about the plane standing still; Entirely possible, and I've done it. Lot's of pilots around here, won't be surprised if a few chime in to confirm. I'll provide details if you want. Actually, I'll one up his standing still....was going backwards.

I supposed it possible, hence my brain chugging. But I knew his story was made up, hence my calling him out on it 

Your customer's experience would have been even better if Bullwinkle was in her house too. (She already had Rocky)

And about the Irishman's story about the plane standing still; Entirely possible, and I've done it. Lot's of pilots around here, won't be surprised if a few chime in to confirm. I'll provide details if you want. Actually, I'll one up his standing still....was going backwards.

And one more. The previous tale reminds me of a story a co-worker once told me. This was many years ago. The husband and wife got home from work and began settling in for the night. Don was standing near the Christmas tree when all of a sudden, he felt a sensation like he was having a head stroke. Just about then his wife Sonia enters the room and with a wild-eyed look she says, “you have a squirrel on your head!”

Greg

I feel boring with our occasional squrrels up here in Indianer.

Greg-- I am sure you have some two legged varmin tales. Maybe from your grocery store runs. 

Speaking of stories. One of my customers told me this one just last week:

Gamera

Last fall I saw what I thought was a large dog crossing the road until I got closer and I noticed it was actually a friggin' black BEAR! Thankfully about fifteen miles from where I live, though I'd rather have a bear than wild hogs! 

I agree. But think of all the Sunday ham people could have. Lol

CapnMac82

Maybe what is needed is a nuclear powered gold wagon . . .

PS: MAN do you have the critters in your area. Funny you mention the aligator because just yesterday I watched Lone Star Law. They spotted a wounded gator and they moved the critter to a safer area.

You didn't mention the two legged sort of critter varmin.