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  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, May 28, 2021 3:29 PM

Bakster
So is it your vision that this thing can fly?

Nah. more like "harnesses" unworldly Powers for Ends Mysterious & Awesome.

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    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, May 28, 2021 3:34 PM

Bakster
a blown mind

So, is that over-bored to 50 or 60 thousandths?  Smile

Or does it just require a +15 supercharger?

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Friday, May 28, 2021 6:09 PM

Did you black the end of the piece?

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 28, 2021 10:52 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
a blown mind

 

So, is that over-bored to 50 or 60 thousandths?  Smile

Or does it just require a +15 supercharger?

 

Lol!

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 28, 2021 10:57 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Capn, have you worked with this stuff before?

 

Yeah, the tape EL stuff is pretty good for H'ween decor and the like (if not weatherproof).

It's not like the sketchy FO stuff meant for "effects."

 

Good to know....

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 28, 2021 11:06 PM

GMorrison

Did you black the end of the piece?

 

Bill

 

Sorry Bill, I am not quite sure what you are asking. Can you expound for me?  What piece? I am probably missing something obvious. My brain is mush right now.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 29, 2021 12:15 AM

Sure. If you end a piece of FO with an opaque cap, it will drive the light out of the surface of the rod.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:20 AM

slowly getting caught up here, finally....

GMorrison

Sure. If you end a piece of FO with an opaque cap, it will drive the light out of the surface of the rod.

 

Bill

 

First off, didn't know that. Cool.

Engine all lit up is simply awesome, Steve.

I enjoyed the SprueGoo discussion. I gotta try it after all these years. A LHS acquaintence suggested it to me long, long ago. I think you and TB finally have me sold. Never thought to mix up a keepable batch in an Extra Thin jar (or something), or to make different basic colors.

Here's how I remember how to spell Stynylrez; I read somewhere the name originated becuase it supposedly works on styrene, nylon, and resin....hence STY-NYL-REZ (with a 'z' which just is what it is). I usually manage to get the NYL backwards somehow anyway.

This project is a hoot. I had great faith that you'd come up with something to keep us all engaged. You do not disappoint. Yes

 

-Greg

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:23 AM

GMorrison

Sure. If you end a piece of FO with an opaque cap, it will drive the light out of the surface of the rod.

 

Bill

 

Ah!  Now I see, said the blind man. I don't think that I did that. Not until you mention it did I know. I will have to explore that sometime because I still have the pieces that I ordered. Thanks for mentioning that.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 29, 2021 10:00 AM

Hey Greg, I love the grinch gif. What is funny is you are probably sucking on coffee right now, and so am I. Our posts just passed each other. I just did a McDonald's breakfast run and now catching up on posts.

Greg
I enjoyed the SprueGoo discussion. I gotta try it after all these years. A LHS acquaintence suggested it to me long, long ago. I think you and TB finally have me sold. Never thought to mix up a keepable batch in an Extra Thin jar (or something), or to make different basic colors.

Yeah I am not kidding that I love the stuff. It is a fantastic filler. I keep finding new uses for it too. For example. I used it to repair and augment the escape tower on my Redstone Rocket build. The lattice work on the tower is extremely fragile and not only that, but the joins had ridiculous gaps. So what I did was, I tacked the sections together to locate and hold the pieces together, then followed up with SprueGoo. I was able to carefully flow goo over those joins. This accomplished two things: It filled the gaps giving the appearance of solid piping, but, it also provided much more solid connection.

Greg
Here's how I remember how to spell Stynylrez; I read somewhere the name originated becuase it supposedly works on styrene, nylon, and resin....hence STY-NYL-REZ (with a 'z' which just is what it is). I usually manage to get the NYL backwards somehow anyway.

.

Now I just have to remember styrene, nylon, and resin. Lol.

Greg
Engine all lit up is simply awesome, Steve.

Thanks Greg. 

Greg
This project is a hoot. I had great faith that you'd come up with something to keep us all engaged. You do not disappoint.

Again, thanks Greg. I appreciate that. Yes

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    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, May 29, 2021 11:27 AM

Oh!Oh!

     Please do it. That would be so cool. A panoply of gradient colors from front to back ending with All lit up in Flaming red/gold. Headers like that , OOOOH,My!

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 1, 2021 12:46 PM

Tanker-Builder

Oh!Oh!

     Please do it. That would be so cool. A panoply of gradient colors from front to back ending with All lit up in Flaming red/gold. Headers like that , OOOOH,My!

 

One thing for sure I will build lighted headers. Just how I go with it will depend.  I plan to  build the header assemblies as one of the last things to do because there are other things I may want to slap on, some of them being what Tim sent me. So, space, and alignments, will be somewhat critical. Thanks for you enthusiasm, TB. All shall be considered!Yes

No progress to report. Weekend was busy with other commitments. I Did take a ride to Michaels, and I had no luck finding a thin walled tube in the size I want. So, I will have to resort to Evergreen and maybe file down the wall thickness to what I want. Or, at least just the section that will show towards the crown. My other thought is I will see if my local HS has brass tubing. I know the size I want is made, and it's thin walled. It might actually work better all around. So... more to come.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, June 1, 2021 2:18 PM

Solder?

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 1, 2021 7:06 PM

GMorrison

Solder?

 

Sorry Bill, dont know what your are suggesting. Solder what?

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 1, 2021 9:47 PM

PS: My local HobbyTown had the brass tubing I mentioned, I bought it. Now I can start working on the stack. Eager to make more forward progress. 

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:46 AM

Greg: LOL!

 

Waiting for more Bakster!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 5, 2021 9:14 AM

Speaking of steampunk... this is kind of cool. Though the guy reviewing it says it's not worth the money. It has some quality problems. Cool though.

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  • From: North Carolina
Posted by Back to the bench on Saturday, June 5, 2021 3:42 PM

Bakster

 

 
GMorrison

Solder?

 

 

 

Sorry Bill, dont know what your are suggesting. Solder what?

 

 

Don't want to speak out of turn for Bill but I think he may be suggesting the use of large diameter solder for constructing the headers. I have seen multiple car engine builds where they used this technique due to the solder being soft enough to easily form into the shape of the individual header tubes for each cylinder. Sheet styrene was used for the header flange and thinwall tubing or even heat shrink tubing was used for the collector. A little super glue and some primer and paint and they looked very nice indeed. I'm not sure if you could use rosin core solder and somehow remove the rosin or just force wiring for a small LED through the solder's core.

Bill, feel free to tell me to pipe down (small pun intended) if this is not what you meant.

Gil

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 6, 2021 10:26 AM

Back to the bench
he may be suggesting the use of large diameter solder for constructing the headers.

Could be. Thanks for suggesting and good to know. I will probably try using and modifying the kit pipes because I already have that. The solder would be a special order for me.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 6, 2021 3:35 PM

Except for paint and the heat collector at it's base, the stack is done. I will make the collector once when more of the assemblies are put together. I need to wait for best alignment purposes. It just occurred to me that unless I intentionally block it, the light from the engine will travel up the stack.

Well, all the fuss looking for tubing and, in the end, I went with Evergreen Plastic. The brass tubing I was going to use was pretty much the same size as the Evergreen and with most things being equal, styrene is much easier to work with. The details I added to the stack would have been much more difficult to do using the brass.

Some things to note.

1. I flipped the roof around and the reason is -- less work. The oversized hole can be easily hidden under the turret. The opposite would be true if I tried to use that for the stack.

2. I removed each decorative arm from the base of the jewelry cap and glued them to the stack using CA. I used twice the number of arms than each cap came with. Good I had extra.

3. The assemblies are not glued, just posed for photo.

 

I think from here I will start on the turret assembly.

End of update.

 

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, June 7, 2021 1:22 PM

Waga,Waga,Waga!!

 Now that stack crown looks Kick #%%&d, You nailed it!

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 7, 2021 5:32 PM

Tanker-Builder

Waga,Waga,Waga!!

 Now that stack crown looks Kick #%%&d, You nailed it!

 

Hey TB, thanks! I had my doubts as I was making it. It wasn't until the last piece was put into place that it all sort of came together for me. I am going out on a limb with this design and even though I have some nagging doubts, I think it has the potential to be very cool. Long story short... thanks for the encouragement!

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 7, 2021 8:20 PM

Tanker-Builder

Waga,Waga,Waga!!

 Now that stack crown looks Kick #%%&d, You nailed it!

 

You can say that again!!! 

Very cool!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    July 2009
  • From: North Carolina
Posted by Back to the bench on Monday, June 7, 2021 8:58 PM

Bakster
Well, all the fuss looking for tubing and, in the end, I went with Evergreen Plastic. The brass tubing I was going to use was pretty much the same size as the Evergreen and with most things being equal, styrene is much easier to work with. The details I added to the stack would have been much more difficult to do using the brass.

The stack assembly looks awesome! Kind of sets the tone for the whole buildYes I was curious how you fabricated the rings or ribs on the stack?

Gil

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 7, 2021 10:53 PM

Gamera

 

 
Tanker-Builder

Waga,Waga,Waga!!

 Now that stack crown looks Kick #%%&d, You nailed it!

 

 

 

You can say that again!!! 

Very cool!!! 

 

Hey thanks Cliff!

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:11 AM

Back to the bench
The stack assembly looks awesome!

Hey Gil, thank you so much. That encourages me.

Back to the bench
Kind of sets the tone for the whole build

I like that. It kind of does. Yes

Back to the bench
I was curious how you fabricated the rings or ribs on the stack?

I really appreciate that you asked that. Aside from the crown, everything else was done by using Evergreen plastic. Starting at the top then. I used half round strip that I wrapped around the tube giving it that rounded look. Below that I used T strip with the top of the T glued down on its flat side, and wrapped around the stack. This produced a thin band that circles the tube. Below that then (x4) I used thin flat strips wrapped around the tube. And the last piece is again the T strip attached the same as the first. In this case, it creates a sort of flange. You can't tell from the image but below that stack I had drilled a slightly undersized hole into the roof whereby the tube can go through, but the flange can't. This seats the assembly onto the roof.

And this speaks to my point where I said it would be difficult to do if I had used a brass tube. The reason is, I would have to use CA glue to attach the strips, and that is never an easy prospect. For one, it's messy. Secondly, if a person is not careful it could attach too quickly, possibly crooked. With styrene on styrene using Tamiya Extra Thin, the process is very forgiving, and very easy even. I tack one end of the strip to the tube and then keep working the strip around until it overlays the other end. I then carefuly cut the strip so they butt together. All during this I can adjust the alignment so it's straight. The glue offers a person some working time. It is not much, but just enough time.

I hope I explained it so it makes sence. If more thoughts or questions, please let me know. 

If by chance you are not too familiar with Evergreen plastic, see the link below. Most hobby stores carry the line. The more I use the stuff, the more I love it. It is very versatile. Several years back GMorrison educated me on it and it opened a whole new dimmension to me in scale modeling.

Probably more than you wantd to know. Lol.

https://evergreenscalemodels.com/

 

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, June 8, 2021 10:03 AM

Hey;

  I figured if you were going SteamPunk, you'd want details!. These will elevate it to the next level for sure!

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 8, 2021 11:15 AM

Tanker-Builder

Hey;

  I figured if you were going SteamPunk, you'd want details!. These will elevate it to the next level for sure!

 

I love your enthusiasm on this, TB. So, here is something I can use your guys help on. I am struggling a bit about paint color. Here is the gist....

The exterior of the carriage box will be wood colored. The roof is typically painted black, but probably done so in keeping with a hearse. A hearse is not even remotely what I am going after here so I am not married to that color. I plan to paint the bench cushions and drapes in a green and the drapes with gold tassels.  I thought about maybe making the roof green too.

Now...I am thinking the turret housing will be brass to create contrast, and to sort of bring it in-line with steampunk. Regarding the stovepipe-- I could paint it black, the crown brass, or the crown black, and the pipe brass, or all brass or all black. I don't want to overdo the brass though. I do want some contrast. The lanterns, some interior detail, and some other exterior detail will all be brass and then there will be a pile of gold in the scene.

I would love to hear peoples thoughts on this.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 8, 2021 11:39 AM

PS: maybe I should be considering copper in this mix too.

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:20 PM

Bakster

 

 
GMorrison

Solder?

 

 

 

Sorry Bill, dont know what your are suggesting. Solder what?

 

That's it. I keep a stash of solder in a variety of diameters for gizmology stuff.

Anther handy source of tubing is insulation pulled off heavy AWG solid conductor.

All old Shep Paine ideas.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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