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1/48 B-17 Group Build...ALL INVITED TO JOIN!

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  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 1:34 PM

B-17 Guy

That's not the kit tailwheel is it? Lokk's better than kit. What is it?

Yep, not the kit tailwheel.  Its one of the many (and I do mean many) updates I added to the kit.  The tailwheel, as well as the main gear, minus the main wheel tires, came from the Verlinden B-17 Update set.  The main wheel tires are the True Details resin set.  The actual tire for the tailwheel was part of the Verlinden set.  It looks a whole lot better than the kit supplied one.  I was thinking of trying the SAC wheel set for another one of my B-17s, though I haven't bought one of those sets yet.

  

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    March 2008
  • From: New Jersey
Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 12:52 PM

Looking realy good. I hope mine turns out half as good as what you got here

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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  • From: Ohio
Posted by B-17 Guy on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 12:31 PM

The staining looks nice, I like it heavier myself. I'm thinking you could ad some more at the end of the exhausts on the lower wings after the turbo charger, I dont see any exhaust coming from there.

That's not the kit tailwheel is it? Lokk's better than kit. What is it?

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  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 11:21 AM

Nicely done so far ,please post the finish.

Thank you ,Krow113

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, March 1, 2010 9:15 PM

Had some nice weather over the weekend.  Got some exhaust stains and a sealer on.  Now its raining, so I guess I'll have to wait to put on the semi-gloss coat to make it look used.

Exhaust Stains Left and right:

Since radials are dirty engines, had to do some on the top as well

After the semi-gloss, just need to add some small bits and pieces and I can call her done.  After a couple of years she's 95% done.  Hope this gets ya'll motivated to finish yours as well.

  

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  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:56 AM

I have collected over 25 books on the b-17 and found the cut away in one of them.I recently found a good color cutaway in the book '50 th Anniversary of the B-17' I scanned the one shown and printed it on my 30 digi printer,(coolneon@shaw .ca)  mounted on 19" x 28" fomecore board it hangs over my workbench.It is an excellent reference for the structural and wiring and oxy systems etc.I erased all the writing around the one posted here,if you look close you will see the id numbers .I think the colorcutaway would suit you better for the display of your visb. 

Thank you ,Krow113

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  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:48 AM

The vents (whatever they are) can be carved into the wing without too much trouble,just an additional detail. Mine look exactly like the ones in the wing already.I checked another cutaway and cant see anything on the outside of the wing. This is relevant only to the builders of the late model B-17 G..................

Thank you ,Krow113

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    January 2007
Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 8:46 AM

Hey krow, where did you get the cutaway poster from?  I've been looking for one to display with my visible B-17.   I have a similar poster for my visible Me-262 and it makes fro a pretty cool display.

-Fred

 

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    March 2008
  • From: Ohio
Posted by B-17 Guy on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 8:44 AM

The only other upper wing vents I know of (besides the 4 behind every engine) are either the vents on the wing tips for the tokyo tanks OR the smaller rectangle vents that are nearer to the trailing edge of the wing and closer to the fuselage. They kinda look like a home heating vent, at least to me. I dont know what they are for and are really of little consequence to me. Those are mainly on the later production G models. However, I really would like to add the vents for the tokyo tanks to the wing tips.

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  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Monday, February 8, 2010 10:06 PM

I think you can see them here .or look for a pic of 'A Bit o' Lace' there is acommon one of it flying in daylight you can see the vents and staining..........if you wanna better file of this cutaway email coolneon@shaw.cacutaway.jpg picture by krow113

Thank you ,Krow113

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, February 8, 2010 9:22 PM

OK i went back and looked for those vents.  While I did find them, I only saw them in a few photos, and the 17 was a late G model.  The ones i saw did looke like wing vents, for what I am not sure.

  

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  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Monday, February 8, 2010 8:51 PM

I checked quickly and they are vents.I looked at my cutaway view poster and they are there.Also they are on numerous photos in my refbooks.There is no question , they are vents.The cutaway shows only framing under so I think they just may be 'outer wing vents'

Thank you ,Krow113

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Monday, February 8, 2010 8:50 PM

Looks like you have the makings of your very own bomb group

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, February 8, 2010 6:20 PM

B17Guy, am too and waiting to start a D conversion, followed by 8 more B-17 variants.

krow113: Yes the bbay doesn't go all the way to the top in the real a/c, but you really only have to fix this if you're doing the visible B-17, because you will not see it when the model is closed up.  I have not seen the vents you're talking about on the wings on any pics.  There are some fuel tank caps on the outside wings.  Are those what you're referring to?

  

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  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Monday, February 8, 2010 6:07 PM

Hello all : Good luck on the B-17 GB. I am a year away from getting back on mine.As far as the Vis B-17 ,and all the 1/48 B-17's , kit inaccuracys should be dealt with. One of the first would be the bbay rack in the middle ,this (I believe) does not go to the top of the fuselage as supplied.The fuselage was built as a tube with the doghouse up on top. I have some photo refs to correlate but I would like to see someone do it right . Next would be the vents in the upper outside of the main wings.I have refs for those but some show them ,some dont . I carved mine into the existing upper wing parts ,using the existing oil cooler vents provided. I am not a rivit counter but what do you guys think of these points? Any other inaccuracys ?

Thank you ,Krow113

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  • From: Ohio
Posted by B-17 Guy on Monday, February 8, 2010 6:01 PM

You should try doing only some panels, not all. leave some shiny. Thanks for the compliments man, I'm actually getting the bug back to try and get these 2 finished and start the D conversion.

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, February 8, 2010 5:02 PM

Before you know it, you;ll have your very own bomb squadron.  They look great!

I too am waiting for warmer (and dryer) weather before I can finish up my 17.  Needs exhaust stains and the little bit parts and a semi gloss clear coat to tone down the shine, so she looks war weary.

  

  • Member since
    March 2008
  • From: Ohio
Posted by B-17 Guy on Monday, February 8, 2010 4:00 PM

A few more...I said I like pics!

I really like these two pics, cant till warmer weather gets here so I can do this outside. Especially once I get the other forts done.

A few more for good measure, and fun.

This ones a fixer upper, I built her maybe 13 or so years ago.

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  • From: Ohio
Posted by B-17 Guy on Monday, February 8, 2010 3:41 PM

Alright pilot, you dogged me out. I put my 17's together for a few quick snapshots. They arent done, neither have a nose cone on yet, also missing tail guns, waist guns and some other bits. Here ya go, I like pictures by the way.

                                                            

 

 

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, February 1, 2010 12:53 PM

Gigatron

They're cool when you see them, but good luck seeing them, LOL

That's why I put them in the full down position.  The instructions indicated a 5mm actuator which would have put the flaps at approximately 10% (you can hardly tell they're down in that position), that plus due to the fit problem, the full flaps position fit better.

  

  • Member since
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  • From: Cincinnati Ohio
Posted by DantheMan85 on Monday, February 1, 2010 12:28 PM

Yeah Pilot nice looking flap's.

I haven't done much work on any of my models, waiting till spring when it warms up.

On my Work Bench: Tamiya Ford GT 1/24

Up Coming: ?

           

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, February 1, 2010 9:23 AM

I didn't have a problem with the parts breaking, my problem was they didn't fit in the opening all that well, a little on the long side.  Had to tweak them a little bit to get them to fit.  I also got the resin flaps that Paragon made, so when I do the flaps again, I'll see how good those are.

  

  • Member since
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Posted by Gigatron on Monday, February 1, 2010 9:18 AM

Looks like I'm not the only one that got suckered into eduard's PE flap detail set.

Those things were the most awful PE set to build.  Little fiddly parts that broke off for no reason than "just because".  I built one set and the other set got so goofed up, I ended up ordering a new one to start over.  And now that it sits on a shelf, you can't even see them - even from behind.  In retrospect, a waste of a few hours time.  They're cool when you see them, but good luck seeing them, LOL

-Fred

 

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, February 1, 2010 9:10 AM

Thanks!  The half of the fuselodge came from the started D kit I picked off ebay (its next after the G is done).  I pulled it out of the D kit, cause while building the G I accidently knock off the ariels under the fuselodge and need to use that half to put the replacements in the right spot.

I don't know what I'm going to do with it.  I do have a couple more of the C/D conversions, so I might use it to perhaps do a factory dio scene with the three cut off tails.

  

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  • From: Ohio
Posted by B-17 Guy on Monday, February 1, 2010 8:56 AM

Damn pilot, those flaps look sweet! I may have to try that some time soon, I spent so much time detailing the interior on mine that I was burned out by the time i got to the exterior. I like how she look's, seems to some weathering going on the upper wing panels.

What's up the half B-17 fuselage? If your not gonna be using it for a build, you could make a fairly quick little dio out of it. I'm planning on that when I chop the tail off a revell F to convert it to D. I'm gonna make a crash dio out of the remains. Just the tail, no forward fuselage.

  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, February 1, 2010 8:41 AM

I was able to work on my 17 this past weekend, since the previous weekend the weather decided to play nice allowing me to paint a couple of things.  I was able to get the flaps on and the other doors painted.

Here's pics of the flaps installed:

 

  

  • Member since
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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:52 PM

Currently I have three 51s going.  They're all painted NMF and are waiting to be weathered.  I kinda of got burned out on mustangs and concentrated more on the 17.  At one point I had 9 mustangs and the 17 going.  Crazy ain't it?

I got 6 mustang completed for the Mustang collection I have, with the final three waiting finishing.  I had a twin mustang started as well, but it developed serious wing wrapage so I set it aside.

In the future I think I'll stick to 3 or 4 at a time,  unless I have multiple 17s going on at the same time.

  

  • Member since
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  • From: Ohio
Posted by B-17 Guy on Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:45 PM

How many 51's do you have going at once? All 3? Craziness aint it?! I'm kinda doing the 4 of them in 2's. Two of them are camo, two are partially camo with NMF. One the 2 NMF's is getting aluminum foil for the NMF.

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:19 PM

I think we're doing the same thing in reserve!  I have three mustangs left out of a collection of 9, well actually 10, I gave up on the twin mustang serious wing wrap developed.  I took a break from them to concentrate on finishing the 17, even though they're are in the final stages as well.

  

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  • From: Ohio
Posted by B-17 Guy on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:46 PM

I havent made progress on my forts either. Got kinda burned out on them. I'm still stuck on a few things I wanna do but cant figure out the how I wanna do them. The 2 bigget things I need to figure out are how I'm gonna do the single .50 through the plexi nose on the F model, plus the radio room .50's for each. Basically the mounts for the guns in the radio rooms, which way I'm gonna go there. Then the .50 through the nose, I wanna add the bracing from the gun mount to the opening of the nose, just cant figure out either right now so I took a break. I currently have 4 mustangs on the bench now.

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