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  • Member since
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  • From: Novi, Mi
Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, February 6, 2012 8:14 PM

She's on the gear.  I use a piece of plexiglass to make sure the flats of the tires are all aligned.

The brass inserts on the bottom of the tires are the electrical connections for the lights and engines.  The brake lines are the wires leading into the engine nacelles.  I'll detail those tomorrow.

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by Lancair IV on Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:10 AM

Update - - - - - - - - - Clyde came thru.  He is sending me his last 5.0mm motor.  Unfortunately, he is no longer producing kits.  I should have it by the end of this week.......  Time to start the base while I wait.

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by LWW1 on Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:35 AM

Found this site that may work.

https://catalog.precisionmicrodrives.com

Have all types of small motors.  Hopefully there is some information on the ones you have to match with.  Best of luck!

Lance

Appreciate the look and more to follow,

On the bench: P-61

On Deck: Super Wing Series P-51

In the hole: BF/ME 109 - Converting to carrier based w/Folding wings

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Posted by Lancair IV on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:06 PM

Thanks for all the feed back and ideas.  I have not heard back from Clyde yet, and I'm trying to find an old pager.  Either way, I will have 4 running engines.

This picture is the underside of new motor without the cowling that has just been replaced by the ground crew after a catastrophic engine failure.  Still a long way to go.....

Cheers

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by LWW1 on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:22 AM

A different thought is that these little motors are from the "old" pagers.  Should be able to find on for cheap and take apart for the motor that makes the pager vibrate.  I would be sure Clyde will help out as would figure he would have some extras.

Appreciate the look and more to follow,

On the bench: P-61

On Deck: Super Wing Series P-51

In the hole: BF/ME 109 - Converting to carrier based w/Folding wings

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Posted by Luft Modeler on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:21 AM

I didnt say soak the motor in ca remover, soak it in wd40. Wd40 has been used for a long long long time for electronic motors and other devices. Followed by then cleaning out with electronic parts spray cleaner. I have rebuilt and built brand new electric motors, brushed and brushless motors. CA remover would be applied on a qtip and lightly scrub the superglue off of the shaft where it has been glued to the bearing which should loosen up the bond. Soaking in WD40 to then clean out the motor followed by rinsing out excess lubricant with electronic parts cleaner. 

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Posted by Heavens Eagle on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:46 AM

As a watchmaker and someone that worked for over 20 years in electronics, LESS is better.  Soaking the whole motor can damage windings and that is not a good thing.  Also if you are good with small stuff it might be possible to disassemble the motor partly.  I have done so before, but then again I am used to working on parts a quarter the size of a pin head. HmmWow

Another thing is that CA removers tend to have acetone or some solvent such as that.  Motor windings are usually made with fine copper wire that has lacquer for the insulator.  Acetone and lacquer don't mix.  If I remember from the movie where all the electronics were tested, the motors are maybe only about 1/4 inch in diameter.  VERY SMALL!   Again, the best way is just a little of your solvent choice right where the CA ended up.

Just thought, Freeze spray might be possible.  Have also heard that putting CA in the freezer can tend to make it break down.  A small pin vice on the shaft to hold it and gently work it afterwards might be a help too.  The freezing shouldn't hurt the motor.  Just be sure to dry it off.  Hairdryer.

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  • From: AZ
Posted by Luft Modeler on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:26 AM

A combo of some ca remover and then soaking the whole electric motor in container full of wd40 can do the trick. Let it soak for a couple hours or more, pat it dry and then use electrical spray cleaner to remove the wd40 from it. Is it a brushless motor or standard?

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  • From: Iola, KS
Posted by MrRabbit on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:32 AM

If heavens eagles idea doesnt work and you cant find a replacement,  maybe heavily weather the engine, scrape away some plastic to simulate flak damage and feather the prop?

 

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Posted by Heavens Eagle on Monday, January 30, 2012 11:40 PM

I might be able to add some helpful to this.  Years ago in college, folks had a bad habit of doing a nasty practical joke.  Putting super glue into the tumblers of our dorm locks.  The easiest and fastest way to "unglue" the lock was to spray WD-40 into the lock.  In this case maybe just take a drop and work it into the glued area to soak.  With a little patience it might break it loose then just work with it a little.

Another thing about super glue is that heat and cold can tend to make it degrade.  The cold not so much.  Heat depends.  Enough to where it is a little warmer than you want to hold can do the job.  Also CA is a bit on the brittle side.

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Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, January 30, 2012 8:51 PM

Installed the engines and motors today hoping to make a final test before the cowls are glud on.  Well, I really screwed up this time.  Engine #1 will not turn over.  #2, #3, & #4 are fine as well as all the lights and sound.  As it turns out, I used a little too much CA and the shaft is frozen.  Go figure.  Hopefully I can get a hold of Clyde and see if he sell me a new one.  Last I heard, he was not in business any more......  Stay Tuned.......

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by fermis on Monday, January 30, 2012 6:58 AM

Lancair IV

When did you build that Fermis.  Last night?  lol.  Are you bringing that to SEMEX in March?

 

HAHA...no, that was last spring-ish. Not sure about SEMMEX this year, I'm going to a show in Indy(???) with a buddy from Swanny's March 10.

Just checked their site....March 24th....I may just make it out there, if for nothing more than to hit the vendor room and check out your plane! My 17 was a commission job, so it's long gone now!

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  • From: Mobile, AL
Posted by RotorHead10 on Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:35 PM
Rob, I have been following this buid for a while now. Well Done! Even though your methods borderline on insanity you serve the modeling community well and are an inspiration to model builders everywhere. I personnaly have picked up a thing or two from this build. Sometimes I wonder if in fact you are actually a oroverbial "Indian in the Cupbaord" 1/48 scale airframe mechanic. Again, great work as I am looking forward to your furure builds... Chris

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Posted by silver69 on Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:15 PM

Can't wait to see it with the masking removed.

This build is spectacular!

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Posted by Lancair IV on Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:45 PM

When did you build that Fermis.  Last night?  lol.  Are you bringing that to SEMEX in March?

I spent the day weathering today.

Thanks for looking

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:45 PM

Copycat!!!

Looks great buddy, can't wait to see it "on the table"!!!Toast

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Posted by Lancair IV on Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:10 PM

MOUNT N RIDE

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:38 PM

Great updates lancair Yes wishing to see the finished cutaway Stick out tongue

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Posted by Luft Modeler on Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:35 PM

Lancair IV

Thanks everyone.  She's far from perfect nor do I plan on making her perfect.

 

Last night I sealed the decals with a coat of future floor wax.  Dull coat tomorrow after everything has completely dried.  Then the fun begins with turning her from a hanger queen into a war machine!

 

Cheers

 

You say its not perfect but it looks damn good!

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Posted by Lancair IV on Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:20 PM

Dull Coat applied

Started weathering the flaps.  Bottom flap in untouched, Top flap started.

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by Lancair IV on Friday, January 27, 2012 7:28 AM

Thanks everyone.  She's far from perfect nor do I plan on making her perfect.

 

Last night I sealed the decals with a coat of future floor wax.  Dull coat tomorrow after everything has completely dried.  Then the fun begins with turning her from a hanger queen into a war machine!

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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  • From: Belgium, EU
Posted by Ninetalis on Friday, January 27, 2012 5:04 AM

I haven't been following this build, but damn... I've missed A LOT of nice stuff
I'm gonna start following this build!

Really, Great work!

Regards Ninetalis.

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  • From: Arkansas
Posted by K-dawg on Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:10 PM

Stunning work so far... the pre-shade on the undersides worked just like it should. Very good job!

 

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:34 PM

Looking fantastic!

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by LWW1 on Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:45 AM

Awesome build!  Love the open areas of the '17 and looking forward to the movie of all the working lights & engine sounds!  Keep up the great work.

Appreciate the look and more to follow,

On the bench: P-61

On Deck: Super Wing Series P-51

In the hole: BF/ME 109 - Converting to carrier based w/Folding wings

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    December 2011
  • From: AZ
Posted by Luft Modeler on Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:55 PM

I dont care what anyone says, this is a kick a$$ build!!!

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Posted by Bob H. on Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:14 PM

Rob, please continue to document your efforts. This is " Great Stuff " and I'm learning a lot by following what you're doing. Later,                   Bob H.

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Posted by MrRabbit on Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:54 PM

This build has me feeling a zombie fan waiting for the next episode of The Walking Dead....  every time I see you update your post I get excited.  Great work.

 

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  • From: Novi, Mi
Posted by Lancair IV on Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:50 PM

Started the decals today.  I should be able to finish them tomorrow night.

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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  • From: Novi, Mi
Posted by Lancair IV on Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:44 PM

B-17 Guy

Which OD is that?

Model Master Acrylic.  It's a little dark for my liking.  I'll tone it down after decals.

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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