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Gull Gray Options
Posted by john087 on Friday, August 5, 2011 9:21 PM

Hi all,

When I did a google search for paint color cross reference chars, i found one that had Tam XF-55 Deck Tan as a substitute for flat gull gray. 

Anyone used Tam XF-55 as gull gray?  I picked up a mini bottle at my LHS becuase the testor gull gray looked very blue and cold.

I am going to do some tests to see if i can lighten the color with some white and cool it with blue as the XF-55 does seem very brown and warm.

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks

John

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 5, 2011 9:35 PM

Tamiya Deck Tan looks nothing like Gull Gray16440/36440. Whoever se t that up a cros reference must have made a mistake. Sky Gray is much closer, but still too dark.

 

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Posted by john087 on Saturday, August 6, 2011 12:24 AM

stikpusher

Tamiya Deck Tan looks nothing like Gull Gray16440/36440. Whoever se t that up a cros reference must have made a mistake. Sky Gray is much closer, but still too dark.

LOL, I thought I made a mistake so I looked it up again and sure enough, XF-55 is listed as a substitute for flat gull gray.  Here it the link.

http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/pmodels/mmhtm.html

I am building a FJ4B Fury and I have seen photos (both actual aircraft and models) where the color ranges from a light gray/blue gray to a very brown gray.

The MM gull gray looked too blue IMO. I have done a lit of research but it is hard for me as I am 1 - not good at colors and paint matching 2 - have no idea what gull gray should look like in the first place.

Thanks!

John

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 6, 2011 2:34 AM

Well from what I do remember of seeing Navy and Marine Corps birds at airshows from that era was that GullGray did have those tonal variations, especially depending upon the light. There is just the hint of a tan in there I always thought. I prefer Humbrol's Satin or Gunze's Aqueous Semi Gloss shade of Gull Gray myself. But a dab of Deck Tan and a bit of White added to the Tamiya Sky Gray will give a reasonable approximation.

 

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Posted by john087 on Saturday, August 6, 2011 12:14 PM

stikpusher

Well from what I do remember of seeing Navy and Marine Corps birds at airshows from that era was that GullGray did have those tonal variations, especially depending upon the light. There is just the hint of a tan in there I always thought. I prefer Humbrol's Satin or Gunze's Aqueous Semi Gloss shade of Gull Gray myself. But a dab of Deck Tan and a bit of White added to the Tamiya Sky Gray will give a reasonable approximation.

That's kinda what I was thinkning.  I already have sky gray.

Thanks!

 

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Posted by Greenshirt on Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:18 PM

Gull Gray comes in two shades, Light (x6440) and Dark (x6231).  Light Gull Gray is a light color with a bit of a "concrete" shade to it; Dark Gull Gray is a blue-gray almost akin to USAAF Neutral Gray.  The IPMS Stockholm color cross reference says XF-20 Medium Grey is a close match to x6440, and XF-54 is a close match to x6231.

In my opinion, XF-20 is still too dark and should be lightened up quite a bit for x6440.  XF-19 Sky Grey is too blue and still too dark for a Light Gull Gray.  XF-54 Dark Sea Grey is also too dark and not blue enough.

If you can get Model Master, their Light Gull Gray (FS 36440) and Dark Gull Gray (FS 36231) are both pretty accurate, whether Acryl or Enamel.

Hope this helps.

Tim

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