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Me410 B6/R2 ProModeler (Completed)

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, December 11, 2014 9:19 AM

Ya, the pre-shading can't be seen in the photos at all, but your eye does pick up on it just a tad, which is where I wanted it. I got lucky on this one and the paint really cooperated going down. I need to "blue" that shade up a tad it's just  a bit to grey.

The reason I find the paints off is they all seem way too light in color compared to the chips from several sources. But yes, I agree there is some variation when viewing them on different computers and not with an actual paint chip in hand. I had the chance to see some color war footage of German planes and I couldn't believe how much darker the tones were over what we see in modeling. And it was a really good color film, not that crappy re-color stuff you see. So, that's kinda what got me started off on the track to see if I couldn't get my mix a bit closer. Trial and error all the way. 

And you nailed it on the darker colors, post shading is the only thing that will work well there. So that's where we are heading.  Thanks for commenting, it is helpful. 

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Posted by Nathan T on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:37 PM

Painting looks real nice. Although I can't imagine Gunze's rlm colors being that far off. Gunze is all I spray and I find their colors to be dead on to any Luftwaffe color ref out there. I'm not familiar with the tint of the color chips as I normally find those to be out of wack, and that maybe due to viewing them on a computer screen and not in person. The preshading looks like it all but disappeared, and I find that its almost useless to pre shade under colors such as rlm 74/75, as they are a bit dark. Much better to post shade over those 2 colors.

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:11 PM

I've been making some good progress of late so here is where I sit today.

I managed to get the wings attached and they hold much better than I thought they would so I am no longer worried about them snapping off. I also got it primed yesterday and painted all the panel lines today. I used a new technique this time on the panel line shading. Rather than airbrush them like normal I decided to try a fat tipped acrylic pen in gloss black and simply traced them out using that. It was much easier, faster and came out perfect.

I also managed today to get down the RLM 76 on the underside and sides of the fuselage and now it is curing out. I will hit the upper surface tomorrow with the lighter of the two remaining colors. I also mixed all the colors for this paint job using my iModelKit app on my phone to match the colors to the RLM chips, mainly because I found the "RLM" paints in the bottles to be willfully lacking in accuracy. My ROM 76 is a bit more grey than the chip but much closer than my Mr Color's were. So, all in all I am pretty happy with it.

I also started using Mr Color/Gunze paints and once you get the thinning figured out they spray very nicely and cover very well. I also think the end result using them over Tamiya is better and more durable. The Tamiya paints are easier to spray but I am not happy with the end result like I am with Mr. Color.

Once I get the three colors RLM 74 75 76 down, it will be time to start mottling. Yeah !!

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Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, December 4, 2014 7:27 PM

Looking really nice. I'm enjoying following along here!

-Tom

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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:00 PM

Nice clean work on this build. Glad you got the canopy in without fuss. Time to start Mottling!

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, December 4, 2014 4:31 PM

Alright gents, I managed to get the interior detail and tiny work done, and there is plenty of that. I got the canopy dialed in where I like it and glued in place and the wings are together. Now that all the tedious work is mostly done this build should really pick up speed.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:24 PM

Dammit boy! Looking good so far in that pit Brandon! I do love me some 410's!!!!

                   

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:45 PM

Bish,

Thanks, I hope folks are enjoying this one. It is really a very well fit kit and is falling together for the most part. I am pleased.

Brandon

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:49 PM

Nice to see this being done as a WiP as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:47 PM

GAH !!!!!!  Mental note..... don't trust the paints to be the correct RLM colors, even when they say they are a certain code.

Anywho,  I was painting a bunch of small pieces with Mr. Color RLM02 and I thought things looked a bit too green for my taste so I went and checked the color against the RLM chips on iModelKit. Well, it wasn't even close. So, using the app I spent a few hours going through all the RLM chips and playing with my mixes in the app using Tamiya paints and I managed to get very close on nearly all the RLM codes and nearly perfect on a couple. So, I mixed up a new batch and sprayed everything, AGAIN, and it looks like a near perfect match. I should have taken shots but I was focused on getting the color right and spaced it off. Maybe I can do a pic with the Mr Color lid and the painted parts so you can see the difference.

I then checked my previous interior RLM66 against the apps paint chips for RLM and found it is not dark enough, too grey. Oh well, too late for that now, but all the other colors will be correct RLM chip matched. If you haven't downloaded that app, it's free and it works with nearly all the paint suppliers and has nearly all the country's paint codes and sample chips with the ability for you to set up custom mixes to match those colors. It really made a big difference for me. I'll post more pics this weekend.

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:38 PM

Nicely done so far Brandon. =]

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:19 PM

Well, I had a chance to spend some time with the canopy on this bird and quickly discovered that you really need to assemble it first and then attach it to the plane. To attempt to put this set on piece by piece would be an exercise in rage. But, I put it together and found to my amazement, it's a near perfect fit. I won't have any gaps to fill. This kit is going together like a dream. I am very pleased with it. The lower nose panel and front glass are perfectly aligned as well. So far the modeling gods are shining down on this one.

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:52 AM

Well, I will be on the look out then. But hey, I finished the Revell Corsair, and nothing has fit problems like that one, right?

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:16 AM

I've just seen how it can be a trouble spot on this kit. It seems to take a fair amount of blending in to fit the fuselage profile.

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:47 AM

Nathan T

BrandonK

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

Joe, so far it has been a very nice kit with no fit issues. But now the real issues, if there are any will show up.

Have you dry fitted the canopy??Whistling

Nah, I'm just gonna use toothpicks and cling wrap. I'm sure it will look fine. Indifferent

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Posted by Nathan T on Monday, November 17, 2014 6:48 PM

BrandonK

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

Joe, so far it has been a very nice kit with no fit issues. But now the real issues, if there are any will show up.

Have you dry fitted the canopy??Whistling

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, November 17, 2014 6:47 PM

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

Joe, so far it has been a very nice kit with no fit issues. But now the real issues, if there are any will show up.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, November 17, 2014 6:42 PM

Great start Brandon.  That PE really makes a difference.  I'm curious to how this one will go together.

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Jay Jay on Monday, November 17, 2014 3:52 PM

I just finished a 1/48 P-40 office i was rather proud of....that is until I saw this post  :(

WOW is all i can muster at this point

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Sunday, November 16, 2014 1:35 PM

Well, progress continues. I managed to complete the assembly of the cockpit. Adding in all the PE stuff was a learning process. I definitely need to invest in some CA accelerator. It went together with no real worries. I made sure to move slow and test fit everything a few times and the only issues I had were the instructions are a bit vague on exactly how they want certain pieces to be laid down in various areas. With a little patience I was able to get it all sorted out. I only knocked the control levers off 3 times, so yeah me!! 

So far I am happy with the fit of the pieces of this kit. I have had very little sanding to do and there is very very little flash on the small stuff but not really all that bad. The kit is pretty tight overall. The painting instructions in this kit are far too broad and could use a lot more detail on exactly where certain colors are to start and end. I found this challenging in the cockpit, mostly because this is the first German plane I have assembled. It is coming along nicely and I am pleased with it. 

In the next shot you can see the very tiny control levers that were challenging to install as they only have the thickness of the PE to stand on. Tongue Tied

And here we are getting ready to my wash with artist oils. Before and after shots...





And finally, the cockpit is in place and the fuselage halves are drying. As you can see by the photo, the cockpit fit the two fuselage halves very well. No complaints here.  Smile

Gonna let it sit today and work on my "Hell-er-Bust" kit. Back later gents.


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Posted by Nathan T on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:47 PM

Sweet stuff! Congrats on your first Luftwaffe bird. Can't wait to see that pe in use. Let the Mottling begin!

 

 

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Me410 B6/R2 ProModeler (Completed)
Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:42 PM

I finally got my kit started for the Reich Defenders Night Fighter GB. I thought I would post my progress here also so those of you who don't check GB's you're not in will have the chance to comment on the progress as I go. This is the first German kit I have done so I have plenty of learning to do here.

I actually opened my kit and got started on it today. So far I have managed to read through the cockpit sections and determine what I need to do. I pulled all the parts off the sprues and sanded them all down and checked for fit and then I went over them and removed all the instrumentation I needed to so the PE will go down nice and tight. I managed also to get all the cockpit pieces painted, most in RLM66 and a few others in flat black Tamiya XF-1. I will keep posting as I go along.



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