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Warloads!
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 14, 2014 2:45 PM

As many of you folks do in posts here, I occasionally also wonder about particular warloads for particular aircraft. Did this aircraft carry that bomb/missile and how so?

Well, lets make a thread of photos for reference to answer that question. Preferably of operational combat aircraft whenever possible. That way, if you come across a photo somewhere on the net, add it here for a growing resource for those who like to arm up their birds, and bookmark the thread or particular post on here.

I'll start it off with a rare combo, the F-4E carrying the AGM-12C (or possibly AGM-12E) in South East Asia

notice how in the top photo there are MERs on the outboard station(s) while in the others it's on the centerline...

what's next?

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, November 14, 2014 4:44 PM

Great idea for a thread SP, I look forward to seeing what people come up with.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Friday, November 14, 2014 5:18 PM

I like this one. As if Typhoons and P-47's with 8 .50s isn't enough to disturb your ground war! "prehistoric" CBU's on a P-47.

-Tom

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Posted by Mij on Friday, November 14, 2014 5:58 PM

If your building an F-15E this site provides typical loadouts for the operations the mudhen has been called to do what it does best.

http://www.f-15e.info/joomla/en/weapons/loadout-configurations

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1:48 Revell P-47D Razorback

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 14, 2014 10:10 PM

I like that P-47 loadout Yes

Here's a 1991 equivalent. Great stuff for close air supportSurprise 5x Mk.20 Rockeyes, plus drop tanks and a pair of Sidewinders just in case any bad guys come to tussle.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by Cdn Colin on Saturday, November 15, 2014 7:18 AM

I couldn't resist adding this one, though I'm sure many have already seen it!

It was mounted on an A-1 Skyraider.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 15, 2014 1:04 PM

CC, that one is a classic!

Here is another Hornet from 1991. 3 x Mk.83 or Mk.84 AIRs, a couple drop tanks and a FLIR pod. and of course the obligatory Sidewinders.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:18 PM

Another 1991 Desert Storm CAS load, on one of my favorite birds, teh A-10

2 x TER w/6 CBU-58s, a pair of AGM-65D Mavericks, another pair of AIM-9L/M sidewinders, and an ECM pod

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:32 PM

Hello!

A nice idea, operational photos aren't so easy to come by on the net! Thanks for sharing and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:09 PM

That's exactly why I started this thread! One has to sift thru a bunch of photos just to find decent shots of actual armed operational warbirds!

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, March 16, 2015 3:59 PM

Well this thread has been quiet for a few months, so I'll give it a bit of a boost with another great mud mover, the A-7...

Iron Hand loadout AGM-45 Shrikes and SUU-30 CBUs (plus AIM-9Ds) in 1968 during the A-7's first combat deployment

Snakes... a lot of snakes... 16 X Mk.82 Snakeye HDGPs and 2x AIM-9Ds

1983, USS Independence took A-7s in harms way twice, Grenada and Lebanon. Here armed up with Mk.20 Rockeyes and a FLIR pod

and in her final USN combat colors in 1991, again with Mk.20 Rockeyes, AGM-88 HARMs, and AIM-9L Sidewinders...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, March 16, 2015 4:11 PM

Hello!

Good to see this thread back - it's very useful! Thanks for sharing and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by wolfhammer1 on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:13 PM

One comment on the F-18s, unless I am seeing things, they were hauling a pair of AIM 7 Sparrows as well.  Great thread, have to see what I can come up with.

John

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Posted by seasick on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 9:54 PM

What would be nice to would be a list and/or diagram of which weapons are checked out for which aircraft and which hard points are valid for a munition/ drop tank.

I have some research for a few types of planes but I don't know how good it is.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:07 PM

I have seen that on a few aircraft, and such information such as if a hard point is plumbed for a drop tank, or dry for ordnance only. But those charts that show what they can carry often do not reflect what is actually carried, especially in combat.

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by seasick on Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:14 PM

Warning, this is not a typical war load for a F/A-18C on A2A mission.

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Posted by wolfhammer1 on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:46 PM

Wahoo! Loaded for the bad guys to come over like they did in WWII.  Maybe take that one back for the Final Countdown and let him have fun on December 7 :)

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:32 PM

How about some Phantoms?

The first "Weasel" Phantoms, the EF-4C with a pair or AIM-7s and another pair of AGM-45s

Early F-4G warload, 1 AGM-78 and 1 AGM-45 ARMs

F-4G ODS Warload- 2x AGM-88s, 2 x AIM7s, 1 ECM pod

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by seasick on Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:51 PM

Drop tanks are mandatory.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:04 PM

seasick

Drop tanks are mandatory.

unless you have great tanker support or a very long legged aircraft... Or a short hop...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:50 PM

Didn't some F-4Gs carry 4 Harms in ODS with only the centerline drop tank?

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:20 PM

They did on some missions. On other longer duration missions they carried the wing drop tanks as well. That is the more common load out seen in photos. Just an educated guess, but the four HARMs and a centerline tank only load out was likely for early missions against border area air defenses. The deeper penetration missions needed more onboard fuel to get to the target and then back to the tanker tracks over friendly territory.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:48 PM

Makes sense Stik, thanks.

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 27, 2015 3:12 PM

Nathan T

Makes sense Stik, thanks.

Yup, I went and found my Squadron "Wild Weasel" book and read up on the Desert Storm F-4G missions... in the opening days of that war, if the F-4Gs were flying in the Kuwait area, they carried the 4x HARM loadout. Those going into Western Iraq or "Downtown" to Baghdad carried the 2x HARM and 3 fuel tank loadout. occasionally later in the war AGM-65D Mavericks or AGM-45 Shrikes were used by F-4Gs as well. With one F-4G even killing a IL-76 on a runway with an AGM-65D. But according to that book the 2x AGM-88 with the three fuel tanks was the most common loadout as the war progressed and SEAD mission evolved.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, March 27, 2015 3:31 PM

In the Falkland War, two of the Blackbuck Missions (a third was scrubbed) carried AGM-45s.

The second one had to divert to Rio and could only jettison one of the two remaining missiles.

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Posted by seasick on Friday, March 27, 2015 11:57 PM

Internal Fuel of planes I could track it down for: (internal fuel only no drop tanks) I'll update this as I can find references

  1. 2,076kg  F-5E
  2. 3,500kg  MIG-29 earlier versions
  3. 4,700kg  Rafale, 9,500kg external possible
  4. 4,930kg F/A-18C up to three 330 gallon external tanks
  5. 5,000kg Typhoon
  6. 6,100kg F-15C up to three 600 gallon external tanks
  7. 6,354kg F/A-18F  up to five 480 gallon external tanks 
  8. 6,780kg F/A-18E up to five 480 gallon external tanks
  9. 7,348kg F-14D up to two 267 gallon external tanks
  10. 8,200kg F-22A up to two 600 gallon external tanks
  11. 8,382kg F-35A
  12. 9,400kg Su-27/30
  13. 10,300kg T-50 (Su-50)

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Posted by seasick on Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:52 AM
I guess the real question is how much fuel do you carry, how fast does your engine(s) eat it, how far do you have to go, and how much do ordinance are you carrying. I'd like to get my hands on a NATOPS manual but I suspect I might only be able to get one for aircraft retired at the end of WW2 the way security is now. Or I might end up sitting under a bright lamp at NSA with people in the shadows asking me questions. Oh well happy modeling.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:57 AM

Don't forget to add in mission profile. A low/low/low mission profile eats far more fuel that a high/low/high profile. But anyways we are digressing from the thread intent here and I will try to get some more photos up here later on or combat aircraft and loadouts carried on actual missions.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by seasick on Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:09 PM
One tid bit of information I have acquired is that USN Super Hornets flying to Afganistan from the Arabian Sea usually have two 480 gallon tanks in an asymetric loadout: One 480 gallon tank on the centerline and one on the inner most underwing station opposite the ATFLIR pod. There have masking problems with 480 gallon tanks adjacent to the ATFLIR.  You can see this with this photo.

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