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F-4 Phantom: Arming and Underwing Stores Question

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  • Member since
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  • From: Michigan
Posted by Straycat1911 on Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:30 PM

Tarn, now I think of it, I do believe you are right; Trotti was the guy. I was thinking Jack Broughton but he was the Thud Ridge author.

Strange they made no mention of that mod not being approved by TPTB, but doesn't surprise me, either. You could get away with a lot more stuff back then.

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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:26 PM

I had a signed copy of it. I got Trotti to sign it in black magic marker.

Then when I bought another copy for my Uncle, I gave him the signed one and kept the new one for myself. I figured since he made two deployments with them and one was with Trotti, he should have the signed one.

I was in later, during the "post Vietnam force reduction" days,,,so, I didn't chew any of the same dirt like they had. (this Thanksgiving, my danged Uncle started calling my time in the Corps "Rex's black ops days", lol,,,,,because I was with the Black Sheep, the Black Knights and the Ace of Spades,,,,,no wonder people think Jarheads aren't housebroken,,,,,,,,,, why I oughta,,,,,,,,,,,,)

Rex

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:34 PM

I'm pretty impressed that you can communicate coherently in written sentences and paragraphs myself ;)

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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  • From: North Pole, Alaska
Posted by richs26 on Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:01 AM
stikpusher

Rex, quick question- when you say that the MERs were tilted relative to the wing, I take it that you mean a fore/aft tilt, and not side to side?

MJ-1 is the powered loading cart? (okay two questions)

Stik, the MJ-1 was a bomb jammer (as known in the AF), or a loader. Here is the AF Museum writeup on them: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=981

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Sunday, November 30, 2014 2:31 AM

"I'm pretty impressed that you can communicate coherently in written sentences and paragraphs myself ;)"

Yuk, Yuk, Yuk.

So says the man that would have tried to enter a partially assembled Amtrack if his FSM buddies hadn't saved him.

But, yeah,,,,,,,one grunt for water, two grunts for food, three grunts for se,,,,,,,,,,,What Sarge?, yes, dear, I won't type that out, Aye, Aye, Honey. (geeesh, some women)

Rex

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:14 PM

Sorry, couldn't help myself when you left yourself wide open there my friend. ;)

Rich, thank you for the enlightenment on that piece of airfield equipment. That stuff is ALL Greek to me.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:34 PM

I really wish that so many of these photos weren't copyrighted.

I would love to show you the difference between the Air Force and Navy MJ-1 weapons loaders and the SATS loader developed for the USMC's use on PSP "airfields".

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:40 PM

Loved those J1's and J'4s....V4 Wisconsin air cooled with 3 speed manuals.  Blew the trans right out of the best one (J1) we had at Udorn on day when I was flying low and fast and an F4 can around the corner, and I downshifted it to try and get turned in to a revetment to get out of his way.......

Pod cradle broke on a J4 one day on the taxiway coming back from "fox" with a pod.........$over 200k damage to that 119, and we spent 2 hours with the FOD sweep down to get the taxi way reopened.....had to get them with a trailer after that.

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  • From: 29° 58' N 95° 21' W
Posted by seasick on Sunday, November 30, 2014 11:12 PM

RobGroot4
Seasick, Not sure if you were serious or not, but a safe bet is 2 sidewinders, 1-3 drop tanks, and AIM-120's on the remaining stations.  That said, it's a rare loadout nowadays, they usually carry some form of GBU.

I'm building a small collection of modern fighters. I have a F/A-18E with Paveways, and a F with GBU-31.  I'm building another and I just want to put it in to an interception, combat air patrol, or fighter escort loadout.I have a EA-18G in my stash that is going to be in a SEAD loadout.

The F/A-18F in the picture has been rearmed with JDAMS. It was dropped once and I was never able to line up the drop tanks properly, I also have an aftermarket LAU-115 B/A and LAU-127 fro the AIM-120C. The AIM-120C has cropped tail fins so it can fit inside the F-22 and F-35.

Chasing the ultimate build.

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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Monday, December 1, 2014 12:40 AM

^  Don't y'all just love looking at aircraft collection shots?

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Posted by seasick on Monday, December 15, 2014 11:05 PM

I always like looking at my collection. Big Smile

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