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Hasegawa F-4E Phantom II

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, April 12, 2015 5:27 PM

I wasn't going to monkey around with rivets n such on this 1:72 scale try. I scribed the panel lines on the stabilizer fins so I could use those to mask off to and them paint.

I was thinking about that tho......metalizers don't like to be masked over.....so I'm not quite sure how I'm gonna do the 3 remaining panels, being that the fore and aft are the same "color" and the one in the middle is different.

I was gonna tackle that last tho....next up is the masking for the sea cammo scheme....

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by 68GT on Sunday, April 12, 2015 3:45 PM

Was wondering how you were tackling the burnt metal panels near the exhaust.  The old mold Hasegawa F-4E doesn't have much detail in that department.  I tried to simulate the separate panels with paint but it didn't come out well.

On Ed's bench, ???

  

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, April 12, 2015 9:39 AM

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, April 12, 2015 7:25 AM

Ya I have a ballpark idea, using the instructions and some other stuff I found online.

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  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, April 12, 2015 7:24 AM

Sorry Nathan. I've been slackin'. I'm lookin' back over the last 6 pages here right now.......

                   

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, April 11, 2015 10:53 PM

Its usually gloss or semi-gloss black. You'll have to check some reference pics to see how far back it goes. Are you working off a painting guide from the instructions, or a decal sheet scheme??

 

 

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, April 11, 2015 10:45 PM

All righty then....36622 is on. Wheels and centerline tank are hung. Armament is ready to hang. Question....the black nosecone....about how far back does the black go? Is it gloss....flat....?

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Tuesday, April 7, 2015 4:52 PM

Mask job......

Some tissue in the wheel wells and I think I'm ready for 36622

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, April 4, 2015 11:30 PM

Tail fin pitot tube taped off so I don't bust it off.....AGAIN......no problem with the fuel dump....yet!

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, April 4, 2015 11:27 PM

Lessons learned on Phantom builds - ya gotta have the panel lines on the stab wings....<is that what they're called?> raised or scribed.....as guides for shooting the different colors/metalizers. I imagine it would be MUCH EASIER to work on these suckers separate from the airframe......and can I say....you guys who build on commission must have the patience of saints to get every little detail just so for your customers! Took me an hour to scribe these parts top and bottom <!> as the original raised lines were BARELY visible thru the primer.

I'm ready for a beer!

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, April 4, 2015 8:45 PM

Ok would NOT mask over metalizers. Color first. Got it.

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Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, April 4, 2015 8:34 PM

Model Master metalizers can be fragile. I would mask over those, especially not the buffable kind

 

 

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, April 4, 2015 7:35 PM

This'll be my 1st attempt with metalizers....how well do they stand up to being masked and then peeling all that away?

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, April 4, 2015 7:04 PM

Just remember some metalizers don't like to be masked over, so paint those last.

 

 

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  • From: Tumwater, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, April 4, 2015 6:16 PM

Guys in our last Phantom GB did it both ways with equal results. I think it's a matter of what is more convenient for you Sarge.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, April 4, 2015 5:57 PM

Ok, masking for the undercarriage spray....started at the tail, and I'm thinking that it might be better to mask and "metalize" the tail end first rather than mask the "metalized" areas and shoot the color.

Tape is the starting point to mask for color shoot. Opinions?

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, March 29, 2015 6:18 PM

STALLED OUT....IN A FLAT SPIN........trying to recover.....ready to paint the undercarriage......just so much going on.

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  • From: Between LA and OC, SoCal
Posted by oortiz10 on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:11 PM

Hey Sarge,

Yeah, TER stands for Triple Ejection Rack and MER stands for Multiple Ejection Rack.  Basically, a MER is a double TER.

Check this out:  TER vs. MER

For the record, the MERs and TERs I've seen were either white or grey.  Depending on the time frame of your build, the "older" MERs and TERs were white, while the "newer" ones are grey.

If you Google either the acronym or the full name, there are plenty of images in both colors for you to use as references.

Hopefully this helps!

Cheers,

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:37 PM

ok, TER & MER...acronyms for equipment racks?

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:17 PM

Camo gray (FS36622)) is basically an off white. Pylons, TERs and MERs will also be FS 36622.

 

 

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:40 PM

Ok, so paint the tanks cammo grey. Assuming the hardware they hang from will be white, like the ordinance racks, or should it all be grey?

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:37 PM

GoatPants

Very nice indeed!

I used the RBF tags on several builds. Photo-etched are way better than the paper offerings.

Perhaps you could shed some light on how/where to hang these suckers. I have a pin vise with tiny ass drills for making holes and I have tiny ass strands of wire.....

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Posted by GoatPants on Sunday, February 15, 2015 8:58 AM

Very nice indeed!

I used the RBF tags on several builds. Photo-etched are way better than the paper offerings.

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:57 PM

For a SEA scheme- FS 36622 for the tanks was pretty standard  

 

 

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, February 14, 2015 4:55 PM

The tanks/pods that hang out from under the wings are green on top......

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, February 14, 2015 4:52 PM

Does the centerline tank get painted all white on this sucker? Painting instructions do not indicate......

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Friday, February 13, 2015 9:03 PM

Roger that. Thx Nate.

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Friday, February 13, 2015 7:17 PM

Paint the bottom, then do the top

 

 

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Friday, February 13, 2015 5:33 PM

This'll be my 1st attempt at airbrushing a camoflage paint scheme. Am I better off painting the upper fuselage and then masking off for the undercarriage, or vice versa?

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