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A-36 Exhaust Staining

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Posted by GreenStyrene48 on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:55 AM
I've used chalk pastels on my allison mustangs, but the gray/white never sticks as well as the black. Maybe smearing on a little umber acrylic before chalk pastel would help. Since your model is already sealed maybe you could apply acrylic and wash it off if it doesn't come out.
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Posted by jugjunkie on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:09 AM

Not meant in any way to hijack your thread but I just wanted to show the result I got with my method

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Posted by jugjunkie on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:06 AM

Airbrush very low pressure first with a slightly wide swath of burnt Umber or dark Red Brown heavily thinned at about 10:1, followed by a similar ratio, tighter swath of RLM 66 and then an even tighter swath of pure Black. After that has all dried take a mixture of white and Black pastel mixed to a light smokey Grey and brush the middle of the swath. This is what you get.

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Posted by jugjunkie on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:05 AM

Airbrush very low pressure first with a slightly wide swath of burnt Umber or dark Red Brown heavily thinned at about 10:1, followed by a similar ratio, tighter swath of RLM 66 and then an even tighter swath of pure Black. After that has all dried take a mixture of white and Black pastel mixed to a light smokey Grey and brush the middle of the swath. This is what you get.

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Posted by oortiz10 on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:53 PM

Hey Larry,

I, like SubarooMike, like to use pastels.  I've tried using my airbrush like Steve, but I have more control with pastels.  In addition to pastels, I like to use make-up.  Specifically eyeshadow.  (Yes, you read that right: eyeshadow.)  I picked up a couple of small eyeshadow kits for a few bucks.  From what I've seen, they're very similar to Tamiya's weathering kit but way cheaper.

The good thing about pastels and make-up is the fact that you can "erase" any unsuccessful attempts with an earbud and some water.

If you're interested, see how the make-up and pastels worked on my Hasegawa F4U-4.

Good luck with your build!

Cheers,

-O

PS: Your A-36 looks sharp!

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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    March 2009
  • From: Yorkville, IL
Posted by wolfhammer1 on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:39 PM

I am working on that same kit, but am not quite ready for that step.  I was thinking of trying to dry brush the stains, having had some success in the past with other models, but it has been many years.  Thoughts and opinions, please.

John

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:00 PM

I use my badger 150 at around 5 psi and thinned MM exhaust metalizer. Very light coats until you get what you want.

To tone down the edges you can use very light coats of pastels.

Steve

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Posted by SubarooMike on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:20 PM

If you use pastels, make sure the surface has a bit of a bite to it.  It will be much easier to build up the layers and you can get it as dark as you would like. There is nothing like a pastel exhaust; however, I usually use both pastels and airbrush for my exhaust stains

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    July 2013
Posted by lzdaily@comcast.net on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:07 PM

Thanks for the compliment on my build. This is my second attempt at the A-36. I wasn't happy with the first one, so I'm especially concerned to get this one right. I'm not quite sure how to get a relatively thin stain that's wider near the exhaust and then feathers out. FWIW, I have a Badger 150 dual-action airbrush. Any tips greatly appreciated.

Larry

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:56 PM

Airbrushing would be best.  Just practice on scrap before committing to th e kit.  Or you could try pastels but that can be tough with the heavier staining that the A-36 had.  Nice build by the way

 

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    July 2013
A-36 Exhaust Staining
Posted by lzdaily@comcast.net on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:08 PM

Hello, all.

I'm currently building an AM A-36. I've added a True Details resin cockpit and SuperScale decals. Waiting in the wings are Scale Aircraft Conversions landing gear and UltraCast resin wheels. The photo shows where I am now: paint and decals on, panel lines accented a bit with a wash of burnt umber oil paint, and a light overspray of MM Afrika Khakibraun for an overall dingy look.

I'd like to add some exhaust staining to match what I see in photos. I've looked around the Net and I've found some suggestions for colors (I'm leaning toward sand with a bit of gray added). What I'd like to know is how you go about applying it. I'm thinking an airbrush might be the best way, but I'm concerned about control. What do you all do to simulate the exhaust stains on Allison Mustangs?

Thanks in advance,
Larry

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