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WIP: Part 3, UPDATE 11-26-17 (Almost finished!!!) Building the Revell 1/48 scale B-29 in Bare Metal Foil

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, December 4, 2017 2:01 PM

Yes one of the more epic builds lately!Public service aspect is in evidence for  those contemplating tackling this beast of a kit!

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, December 4, 2017 3:57 PM

fotofrank

What a massive undertaking! I certainly admire your patience and determination.

What was that patience liquid you occasionally use?

 

SmileWoodford ReserveSmile

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Posted by Greatmaker on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:02 PM

Amazing stuff.  I have this one in my stash. Looks like I'd better stock up on putty

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:57 PM

After the paint dried, out came a few sheets of Bare Metal Foil. The foiling of the wings took waaay longer than I expected. The top of the wings wasn't too bad because part of the wing was painted. The underside of the wing took a long time because, except for a very small painted area, all foil. Again, I used two colors, Aluminum Plate and Improved Chrome for variety. Each panel was individually applied. Patience is the key, but I could only do so much foiling in one day before my eyes got tired.

 

This is a Main wing from the Anola Gay. The really polished the aluminum because I am sure that it never looked like this when in service. Anyway, this is the appearance that I am trying to achieve.

 

A comparison of the rivets on the Enola Gay wing and my model's wing. You will probably need to click on the photos for a larger view.

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, December 4, 2017 5:50 PM

Greatmaker

Amazing stuff.  I have this one in my stash. Looks like I'd better stock up on putty

 

I'd recommend stocking up on sanding pads instead of putty.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:07 PM

ENGINE EXHAUST

This is a photo of FIFI's engine exhaust. The larger pipe is the engine's main exhaust and the smaller pipe is the turbocharger's exhaust.

This is what Monogram provides. A single pipe that does not fit properly in a recess in the nacelle. Why Monogram thought that this is a good soultiion is beyound me.

I decided that I might be able to do better, so I bought some aluminum tubing of two diffetent sizes. First I cut the tubing then painted it with Testores flat black and Testors rust. I varied the amount of rust that I used.

Next I pulled out my Milwaukee drill and prepared to drill some holes. I took a deep breath and drilled the holes at an angle to match the angle of FIFI's exhaust.

Next, I used putty to fill-in the recess that surrounds the holes.

I inserted the tubing into the holes and glued them in place by using a blob of epoxy inserted through the front of the nacelle. I completed the foiling and added rivets.

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Greatmaker on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 2:02 PM

JohnnyK

 

 
Greatmaker

Amazing stuff.  I have this one in my stash. Looks like I'd better stock up on putty

 

 

 

I'd recommend stocking up on sanding pads instead of putty.

 

Will this do?

 g9717-37f43fe66b0eb2f985731877d526a1d7 by Robert Pederson, on Flickr

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 2:43 PM

That should work just fine! Make sure that you wear eye protection:

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 3:03 PM

Excellent progress, and nice job handling the "soft" details, shall we say, like those exhausts!

 

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:56 AM

Fantastic meticulous work, excellent just excellent!

Your friend, Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, December 7, 2017 12:15 PM

Toshi,

 

Thanks for the kind words. Some people would say that I am obsessiveGeeked I always enjoy following your work. 

John

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, December 7, 2017 1:45 PM

This kit has a number of engineering problems that make it difficult to build. It is definitely not a kit for a begineer modeler. IMHO, the way the engines/cowlings are attached to the nacelles is the biggest problem.

Monogram did not provide any locating pins or lugs to help locate the engines onto the nacelles.Sad Plus, there is not enough surface area to glue the engines to the nacelles. Somehow the cowlings are to be butt glued to the edges of the nacelles. As I recall, the engines on Revelle's B-17 and B-24 are engineered in the same manner. The problem with the B-29 is that the engines/cowlings are big and heavy and need to be securly glued to the nacelles. 

This is my solution. Yes, it is a crazy soultion, but it works. I took a sheet of styrene and cut it into strips. I then glued the stips into blocks which were glued to the nacelles. This provided a nice flat surface for glueing the rear of the engines to.

The thickness of the blocks of styrene also provided a small gap between the cowlings and the nacelles. This provides for a closer visual match to the 1:1 plane.

 

One last thing. It is important that the panel lines on the nacelles align with the spaces between the cowling vents. This is not mentioned in the instructions. If this isn't done, the engines will appear crooked when the airplane is viewed headon. This is why it would have been nice if alignment pins were provides. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, December 7, 2017 3:57 PM

Really nice jpb on the exhaustsWow Monogram really punted on those!

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, December 7, 2017 4:00 PM

Thanks!  Yep, the kit exhaust are nasty Black Eye

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, December 7, 2017 4:11 PM

The kit is getting close to the end (I hope). Time to apply the main wing decals.

 

I wanted to make sure that the carrier film that is between the letters does not show up on the wings, so I individually cutout each letter. Monogram decals are pretty thick and they tend to not tear.

The decals came out nice, no carrier film.  Please note that the foil on the wings is not as shiny as it appears in these photos.

Here is what remains to be done:

  1. Install bomb bay doors
  2. Glue wings to fuselage
  3. Install cockpit glazing
  4. Install landing gear and guns

I'll be glad when this is done. Big Smile

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, December 8, 2017 1:47 AM

Looks good - you're on the home stretch.  Better start thinking about a place to display that big bird!

Thanks,

John

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, December 8, 2017 8:41 AM

I'm thinking that I may need to hand it on a wall. I just need to figure out how to do that.

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, December 8, 2017 8:57 AM

It looks fantastic. Nice work.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, December 8, 2017 6:59 PM
Wow! That foil looks outstanding. I look forward to the finished product.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, December 8, 2017 7:43 PM

Thanks to everyone for the positive comments.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, December 9, 2017 11:38 PM

Super impressive work!

Salivating like a Pavlov dog waiting for the final pictures! Eats

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Kilo 66 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 11:58 PM
Inspiring work, amigo. Nicely rendered natural metal finish, to be sure. Fight through the remaining tribulations and do let us see the finished product.
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Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:04 PM

It's time to glue the main wings to the fuselage. The wings are long and heavy and the wings have to be in a vertical position as  the glue cures. The question of the day is, "how do I support the fuselage in a manner that keeps the wing vertical"? I know that this may seem nuts, but I stacked some outdoor furniture cushions together and wedged the fuselage between the cushions. It's an oddball soultion, but it worked just great.

The right wing is between the cushions and the left wing is upright.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Rambo on Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:53 PM

Great Idea with the cushions Johnny, I wonder if that's how they did it at the factory? lol

Clint

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, December 11, 2017 2:51 PM

Amost finished. The only thing remaining are the cockpit greenhouse, guns and landing gear.

I need the advice from anyone that has built this model. The cockpit does not fit propertly. I need advice as to a proceedure for gluing the greenhouse in place. Thanks in advance.

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, December 11, 2017 4:21 PM

This is an impressive undertaking!  I even showed Mrs. Toshi and she literally freaked out and couldn’t believe how beautiful it looked.  We’re both looking forward to your completed master piece!

Your friend, Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, December 11, 2017 5:29 PM

Hi Toshi,,

Thanks for the kind comments. To be honest, I'm kind of freaked out regarding how this project is turning out. The round shape of the fuselage really highlights the foil. It is turning out better than I expected.

I do think that any modeler could make this model in foil. Foiling is not that difficult to master. However, a modeler's mindset really needs to change before making a model like this. Before starting a build like this a modeler needs to set their mind to that fact that this model will take months, not weeks, to build, and that there is no way to speed up the process. The foiling process just takes a lot of time and there is just so much foiling that can be done in one sitting before your eyes and back get tired.

Monogram's engineering issues made this kit more difficult to build than necessary.

I am looking forward to getting this thing finished.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by jmcquate on Monday, December 11, 2017 7:07 PM

Curious, how come no red stripe in the national insignia with USAF?

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, December 11, 2017 7:23 PM

Awesome work!When I make planes with large wings and they need to be mounted verticlally I crack the bench vise and pad the face to mount them up.The cushions worked well for you though.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, December 11, 2017 7:40 PM

jmcquate

Curious, how come no red stripe in the national insignia with USAF?

 

Humpin' Honey was an early B-29 and was destroyed in-flight in 1944. I guess planes of that era did not have a red stripe. For example, B-17's did not have a red stripe. B-29's that were used in Korea had red stripes.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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