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Hobby Boss P-47D MAJ Glenn Eagleston

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  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Friday, May 17, 2024 9:07 AM

Thanks for talking about your experience with the craft store paints, BK!

I use them mostly now on my figures, and my toy soldiers.  Very easy to use, with my wet palette, and easy to blend and mix colors.  I use other brands, made specifically for modeling, like Andrea, Vallejo Model Color, Lifecolor, too.  The craft store brands are useful for weathering, too.  For example, I use burnt siena and burnt umber for washes.  And at the low prices, they're economical.

I may play with them again for airbrushing, too.

Best regards,

Brad

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Friday, May 17, 2024 7:57 AM

There's a few companies that do either moulded or pre-printed bases

Check this out for tarmac: https://spruebrothers.com/cksc30030-coastal-kits-large-circular-display-base-airfield/

 

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Thursday, May 16, 2024 11:48 PM

Hi keavdog, thanks for the compliments. Especially the weathering. I tried really hard to have good balance and not overdo this plane. Positive comments from experienced builder means a great deal to me. I hope you do this plane one day, I know it will be awesome! For the diorama I am probably going to do a simple concrete tarmac. I just don't have the moxie to do grass, trees, fences, dirt, etc. I read another forum that had some simple and easy ways to do concrete. The thing that really terrifies me is painting the figures. My brush skills are pretty dismal, usually the canopy does a great job of hiding the pilot. But trying and failing is the only to get better, at least for me.

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Thursday, May 16, 2024 11:23 PM

Hi Baron, thanks for the kind compliments! For my recent P-38 Lightning I used Deco Art yellow for the nose and front of engine nacelles.  It went on smooth by my standards, but I had trouble with coverage.  I struggled to find the right amount of thinning and the right spraying pressure. Too thick and it would clog, too thin and it would run. I needed to thin it and apply several light coats to get decent coverage.  It is smooth enough for my lower standards. Advanced builders would probably find it grainy. For the P-47 cowling I just couldn't get the Deco Art yellow to look right. I ended up using Testor yellow enamel in the little square bottle, I think it was about $5 at Michaels, that worked a lot better for me.

Michaels also has a brand called Craft Smart, I have some in Spanish Olive which I use as zinc chromate.  It airbrushes silky smooth by my standards, the cockpit below was sprayed with that, and Artist's Loft black. I also used it on the P-47 cockpit and wheel wells.  I also have Craft Smart in Graphite which I use for gunmetal, and Raw Sienna which I use for rust.  I have had good results spraying and brushing those Craft Smart acrylics.  These are about the cheapest Michaels has, $1.49 per bottle last time I checked.

I use Artist's Loft black, white, and raw umber for washes and other stuff.  I haven't sprayed it much, but I think it would do good with some practice.

I used Folk Art metallic silver sterling and nickel for panel variations on NMF.  The results were ok. I also use these for quick spraying on landing gear and other small parts. When all is said and done, I am willing to sacrifice some quality to get the economy and convenience offered by craft acrylics.

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  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 11:42 PM

She looks great! Nice build.

 

 

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 10:23 AM

Your Jug turned out great BK!  Really like the markings - I was considering doing his bird myself.  I think your weathing on the natural metal finish looks great.  Looking forward to your diorama

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 10:03 AM

Nice build, BK, and a great finish!  Pretty good for a new guy Big Smile

About the craft store paints-did you find the finish a little granular, and if you did, did you address it in anyway, such as buffing the surface to smooth it?  I ask because I use craft store paints (eg American, Apple Barrel, Folk Art), among others, and I airbrushed them as an experiment.  I found the pigments to be a little coarser than paints made for scale modeling, especially for use on aircraft.  For armor, the texture wasn't bad.  I used a piece of coffee filter paper to rub the surface down a little and make it smoother.  I've thought that I could mix a batch and let it sit for a while, for the larger particles to sink out of the liquid.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 9:13 AM

Hi jeaton01, beautiful work and a very interesting scene! No goofs here. I love the detailing on the shovel, and also the partially rolled up window on the driver's side. The figures look fantastic as well. If mine come out half as good I will be very happy. I'm still working on this truck, been really busy with other stuff.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, May 1, 2024 10:53 PM

That truck is a great build.  I've done one so far and have at least one more in the stash.  I do believe if the scene is interesting enough people can enjoy it without focussing on my goofs!

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John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Wednesday, May 1, 2024 10:14 PM

Hey fox and jeaton01, thanks so much for the kind compliments and interesting information.  I feel better about the exhaust stains, and now I can even explain it to people who look at the model.  Speaking of which, someone said since it is wheels down I should try a diorama.  So I got the Tamiya 1/48 Airfield Fuel Truck.  It is very small compared to the P-47, but it is very detailed with great fit and quality of the parts.  It is a fun little build, I am taking my time with it.

It comes with two figures, one holding the fuel hose and nozzle and one with his arm resting on the fuel hose door.  I am the world's worst hand painter, even worse than airbrushing, but I will give a try to painting the figures.  For the diorama itself, I am just thinking a simulated concrete slab.  I am far too lazy for making buildings, grass, bushes, or dirt.

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, April 19, 2024 10:37 PM

That's not just the oil cooler shutters there, it is also the turbocharger dump gate so exhaust gases come out there except when those valves are fully closed.  That's only at very high altitude or low power settings.  That's why there is stainless steel on the belly aft of the dump gates.

Great looking model!

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

fox
  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Friday, April 19, 2024 9:00 PM

Awsome build! Toast Toast Toast

Stay safe.

Jim Captain

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Friday, April 19, 2024 7:27 PM

Another one completed. I think I am improving, but still so far to go.  It's a fun journey, which is probably all that really matters.  I know real jugs didn't have heavy staining from the oil coolers, but I think it looks cool on the model so I claim atistic license lol.  Also the gunpowder stains are too heavy, but I kinda like it that way.  And the Taniya makeup built up at the edges of the eagle decal, which looks lame.  But from far away it's not too bad.  I avoided the decal at first, but the area looked too clean compared to the surrounding areas so I applied some.  Next time I may try to use the airbrush instead.  The staining around the cowling looks too heavy in the photos, but it is a bit less to the naked eye.  Overall the Hobby Boss was fun and easy to build, I am looking forward to trying another one of their kits soon.

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  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Saturday, April 13, 2024 9:51 PM

Hi keavdog, eaglecash867. Thanks for the kind words and advice. All the models in this forum are so awesome it's hard to imagine anybody here making such a bone head move. And I never thought you could flip the decal over. I printed some extra left side decals already printed, so I took one and flipped it. Worked like a charm! Thanks again!

  • Member since
    April 2020
Posted by Eaglecash867 on Saturday, April 13, 2024 3:11 PM

Another great looking build, BurritoKing!  There's a possibility you could save that decal and just flip it over.  BlueTack is pretty good at pulling decals off, usually completely intact.  You could then use a clear acrylic as an adhesive since it was reversed.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Saturday, April 13, 2024 2:56 PM

The decals look great!  I'm sure I would have done the same thing with the backward flying skull lol...

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Saturday, April 13, 2024 2:17 PM

Here is a lame ass rookie mistake.  I'm doing weathering and thinking everything is OK, then I noticed the skull on the right side is backward.  The most embarrasing thing is that I actually applied the decal without noticing.  I guess I was so preoccupied with the homemade decals and hoping they would work.  I have to mirror the decal, print another one and reapply it.  Live and learn.

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  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Thursday, April 11, 2024 1:31 AM

Hi Gary, thanks!  Today I did the decals, and to my relief they worked pretty good.  I soaked them for 2-3 minutes, then applied decal solution after they were placed, then finished with a coat of Quick Shine mixed with some Tamiya clear flat X-21.  Not perfect, they seem on the thick side, you can see some of the clear edges, and there was some slight wrinkling on the curved front of the engine cowling.  But I saved $25 plus shipping, so I am OK.  Next is weathering and final assembly.

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GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Wednesday, April 10, 2024 12:21 AM

Looking superb, BK!

Gary

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Wednesday, April 10, 2024 12:13 AM

Hi lurch, thanks for the kind words! My first ever attempt with the stripes, they are a bit crooked but I am OK with it.  I guess I could've measured and marked them before putting the tape, but I'm just not that disciplined.

Painted the OD anti-glare panels on top of the fuselage, and the black stripes on the tailfins.  Also printed the decals, gonna try them this week.

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  • Member since
    August 2021
Posted by lurch on Tuesday, April 9, 2024 5:44 AM

That's looking pretty good. I like the stripes. Great job. Can't wait to see it completed.

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Saturday, April 6, 2024 11:22 PM

Painted the D-Day stripes. Defintely not a masterpiece, but I can live with it. Next week gonna do the skull and eagle decals, then start weathering.

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  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Friday, April 5, 2024 11:10 PM

Hi Jim, thanks for the encouragement. If you want to try BM (bare metal?) maybe you should give Alclad a chance. I read the forums and I was very intimidated at first. But then I said F it, I wanna try. I think the real challenge is polished surfaces. Imo the technique is much easier for regular satin aluminum finishes. My first BM build was a P-38. It didn't turn out great, but it wasn't horrible either. The surface prep is pretty straightforward. I use Krylon flat gray rattle can primer, then sand with 1000 grit, 3000 grit, then buff with old blue jeans, flannel shirt, etc. Spraying the alclad aluminum and dark aluminum is easy. I spray at 18 psi, with the dual action airbrush triggered to flow a small amount. I spray around 2 inches from the surface. The odor is very strong so I wear a mask. But other than that, it is easy to work with, easy to clean, etc. My next BM build will probably be a F-86, I will try gloss gray primer and see if I get a smoother surface (but not polished). One day I hope to try a polished F-104 with gloss black primer for a deep mirror shine.

Today I masked the general outlines of the D-Day stripes then sprayed the white portion with Testor's enamel in the small square bottle. I will be masking it for the black stripes so I didn't trust the white craft acrylic. Tomorrow I will do the masking for the black stripes and spray those with black testor's enamel.

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fox
  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Friday, April 5, 2024 2:57 PM

Very nice work there! Beer Beer Beer I've never tried any of the new BM finishes. I guess I'm chicken to try. The closest I get to BM is Testors Silver Chrome. Looks good to me and it got me a couple of medals for a couple of P-51's a few years back. Now I stick mostly to camo jobs.

Stay safe.

Jim Captain

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Friday, April 5, 2024 1:13 AM

Hi keavdog, thanks for the compliment, and also for the reminder of National Burrito Day. Lots of promotional deals to choose from, I eventually settled on Taco Bell. To those who say it's not authentic, i know you have a point. But the King does not discriminate, the King welcomes and appreciates all kinds of burritos. I've enjoyed Taco Bell since I was a kid, so there's a lot of nostalgia there.

Applied darker shade for some random panels. For me the key is subtlety in the shading. Too dark does not look right. But I was too careful on my first attempt, it was almost invisible. I eventually settled on a 60-40 mix of aluminum and dark aluminum. I think I am happy with the results, but maybe after I sleep on it I'll darken a few more panels. Tomorrow I will do more buffing, then start applying masks for the D-Day stripes.

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  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Thursday, April 4, 2024 9:41 AM

Comming along nicely.  Happy National Burrito Day!

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Wednesday, April 3, 2024 10:23 PM

Hi John, thanks for the tip. I used my mom's clothespins when I was a kid. I also had problems with the grip part sliding off. Now thanks to you I know how to fix that! Next time I'm at the 99 store I will get some clothespins.

I applied the alclad aluminum to the Jug. The first try was ok, it was a slight improvement over the P-38, but still too grainy for me. I thought 1000 grit alone on the flat gray rattle can primer was good enough. So I sanded the alclad with 1000 and 3000, then did a buffing with some old blue jeans. The second attempt came out better. Even though I am not going for a polished finish in most cases, I think next time I will use a gloss primer. I used the alclad some of the landing gear doors directly on the plastic without priming, and that went on much smoother. I know alclad sticks better with primer, but I was too lazy to prime those little landing gear doors. But from that I learned surface prep is critical, even for plain aluminum.

Here is the P-47 aluminum finish. Still negotiating the learning curve, but good enough for now. Tomorrow I will mask some random panels for darker shading.  After that I will try my hand at the D-Day invasion stripes. Also take exact measurements of the skull and eagle decals and make the final prints on the decal paper.

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, March 30, 2024 11:17 PM

You're getting there!  Plastic clamps and clothespins are always handy.  I glue fine grade sandpaper in the grip part of my clothespins so they don't slide off.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

  • Member since
    June 2023
Posted by burrito king on Saturday, March 30, 2024 5:23 PM

Thanks guys for the kind words and encouragement! It helps keep me going through the setbacks and difficulties.

Glued the wing halves together, the left wing didn't stick together too well, I had to apply a lot of glue and hold it pressed together with my fingertips until the glue set.  I think for the future I will get some plastic C-clamps to hold things together while the glue sets.

The wing roots had a gap but it was easily filled with Vallejo plastic putty.  Almost no sanding was required, maybe I am getting a little better at this.  The sanding of the fuselage seams was also minimal.

Then I applied Krylon gray rattle primer.  Tonight I'll buff it out, and clean up some panel lines where required.  If all goes well, I will spray the Alclad tomorrow.

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