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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:36 AM

Thanks, its all done with the washers now. I did the second one useing dark yellow and at first i thought it might have been to much, but as it's dried the colour has come back nicely. I am just leaving it to dry now and then some chipping and dust.

Your bruckenleger is looking very nice. I like the way the dust looks. Did you thin down the oil mix or put it on neat. I would like to try that, it really works.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TD4438 on Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:43 AM

Looking good Bish.I enjoyed the build,faults included.Makes one focus a bit more.You're paint job looks fantastic.

I'm gonna go for a less weathered look for my Kugelblitz since it wasn't a frontline vehicle.According to the vehicle history in the instructions,it's not known if they were ever used in combat.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:47 AM
 TD4438 wrote:

Looking good Bish.I enjoyed the build,faults included.Makes one focus a bit more.You're paint job looks fantastic.

I'm gonna go for a less weathered look for my Kugelblitz since it wasn't a frontline vehicle.According to the vehicle history in the instructions,it's not known if they were ever used in combat.

Thanks. As far as i know only two were built, and i am not aware of them seeing service. I am still practiceing with washes and so on and need to learn how to get a ligther weathered look with them. But i am planning on a dio for this which will have it in action, so a bit of heavier weathering will work i think. Are you leaving yours yellow or giving it a 3 colour scheme.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:11 AM
Three color ambush for mine.

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Posted by pordoi on Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:31 PM
 falschimjager wrote:

isn't a stugg panzer 4?

 

Some were. Both Dragon and Academy offer one, like these...

 

 

However, many were uilt on PzIII chassis, as you mention.

 Don

 

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Posted by falschimjager on Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:12 PM
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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:29 PM

The basic rule is, if it has 6 sets of road wheels on each side, it's a Pz III or one of it's variants. If it has 8 sets it's a Pz IV. The StuG III came in several variants, ranging from Ausf A to G, i think. Where as the StuG IV only came in the 1, and was if i am correct the hull from the StuG III G placed onto a Pz IV chassis.

That model is a StuG III although those road wheels look a bit dodgy to me.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:35 PM

Bish - you've been a modeling machine lately! I really like the weathering on your 251, but this is much better. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Whichever of SMJ's steps you took certainly worked! 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:50 PM
 dupes wrote:

Bish - you've been a modeling machine lately! I really like the weathering on your 251, but this is much better. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Whichever of SMJ's steps you took certainly worked! 

Thanks. With the 251 i had already painted the vehicle before reading about washers. But the Kugel was started with washers in mind so i painted accordanly. With a bit of practice i am sure i can vary my finsih to go from light weathering to heavy. I am even going to go back to the Tiger I i did last year and give that a light wash.

I am following SmJ's steps to the letter on this, seeing what work for me and what don't. Another couple of kits and i reckon i will have my own steps laid out and can concentrate on improvement. Putting my 251 and Kugel next to the two Tigers i did last year i can deffinatly see what i have been missing out on all these years.

And i should add that i owe it all to the great people on this site. I have heard of washers, pin washers and so on. But without great tutorials and people going to the effort of explaining and answering questions i would never have taken the plunge.

I am away next week, but i hope to get this finished by the end of the month. I am also planning on getting back into dio's as i have some catching up to do.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by castelnuovo on Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:11 PM

Thanks for your input Pordoi!

I did a pin wash using Humbrol's white, yelow and light blue. I guess it if looks a bit monotone now, it looked realy monotone before. Do you think I should do another pinwash or just an overall wash? I can't overspray it as I don't have an airbrush. Well, maybe i'll use a can spray.

Decals...so that's what silvering is! Boohoo [BH]. Guess I'll take them off and put different one.

Thnks again...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:27 AM
 Bish wrote:

The basic rule is, if it has 6 sets of road wheels on each side, it's a Pz III or one of it's variants. If it has 8 sets it's a Pz IV. The StuG III came in several variants, ranging from Ausf A to G, i think. Where as the StuG IV only came in the 1, and was if i am correct the hull from the StuG III G placed onto a Pz IV chassis.

That model is a StuG III although those road wheels look a bit dodgy to me.

I have been watching this group for a while and see some impressive modeling go on.

As far as the pz III 6 wheel vs. the pz IV 8 wheel controverse goes i have ref books around here somewhere that show there was some development of the 8 wheel chassis for the pz III as well. Some of those 8 wheel variants of the pz III were built and utilized in small numbers.

Therefore in the field at the time there may have been some confusion, but as far as modeling goes unless there is some offbeat resin kit or some conversion kit out here all of the 8 wheel kits are pz IV , all pz III are 6 wheel .

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Posted by Geist on Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:51 PM

Here is the next project. I ordered some MK tracks this weekend. Expect WIP pics later this week.

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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Posted by dupes on Monday, March 16, 2009 9:50 AM
Oooooh, nifty. Looking forward to it Geist! Been wanting to see that tank crew "in action" for a while now. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by pordoi on Monday, March 16, 2009 11:17 AM
 castelnuovo wrote:

I did a pin wash using Humbrol's white, yelow and light blue. I guess it if looks a bit monotone now, it looked realy monotone before. Do you think I should do another pinwash or just an overall wash? I can't overspray it as I don't have an airbrush. Well, maybe i'll use a can spray.

 

Given the gray base, I would have done a pin wash in a darker color like black, using oils diluted in mineral spirits or something similar.  If the model is first given a coat of Future, the oil wash will flow into the creases and panel lines.  This will provide higher contrast and highlight fine detail, like around the turret hatches.

 

There are other ways mimic the effect of overspraying, without using an airbrush to vary color.  Have a look at SMJ's builds and see how he uses dry brushing to weather.  Hans von Hammer just posted in Armor that he uses pigments to accomplish the same, so there are lots of options.  Remember that no surface naturally weathers at exactly the same rate or to the same extent.  A naturally weathered surface will contain a variety of subtle color differences (again, look at SMJ's builds in this GB and his tute in armor).  This subtle variation is what one should strive to mimic and what is seen on models done by the really experienced modelers in these forums.

 

Don

 

 

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:07 AM
 Bish wrote:

Thanks, its all done with the washers now. I did the second one useing dark yellow and at first i thought it might have been to much, but as it's dried the colour has come back nicely. I am just leaving it to dry now and then some chipping and dust.

Bish: You did it right!, sweet effect huh?  By the way your build is coming along nicely, Ill be excited to see her after the chips and scratches...it brings a tear to me eye seeing someone follow my steps...Boohoo [BH]...I'm getting misty here...

On my Jagdpanzer, I experimented with "scooching" the pools of wash around a bit as they dried.  I directed them to where I wanted to enhance the effect of the contrast...OOOOShock [:O] did it work out nice! 

Geist: I like that tank crew, great poses! 

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Posted by detailfreak on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:56 PM
ok,been working on the nashorn a bit more,also picked up a chunk of blue tagboard to use for my back drop.need some more lighting but so far me thinks it will work out well.some exterior shots of the somewhat finished spg.

.also a few interior shots showing some stowage and the loading end.


thanks everyone.any questions or comments welcome.and concerning the work everyone else has posted here ,all i can say is the level of production here is going to send us well over 1000 roadwheels,although all variants may not get covered.please accept my apologies for not taking the time right now to comment on everybodies work so far but i have husbandly obligations to fulfill.will get to you's individually soon.Wink [;)]

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mmc
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Posted by mmc on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:21 AM

Fantastic job on the Nashorn detailfreak.

Mark

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Posted by pordoi on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:41 AM

detailfreak:  nice progress on the nashorn.  The interior looks really sharp.  I like those open tops; gives one lots of opportunity to customize and make the vehicle look lived in.  I'll be following this through the weathering steps.

Even looks like you've got the tracks on correctly..... Whistling [:-^]  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 Don

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Posted by pordoi on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:05 AM

Bruckenleger... completed

At the end of my last update on this biuld, you might remember that I had an accident during the photography.  I let the model sit under 2 150W shop lites with 13 inch reflectors for several minutes while I adjusted camera settings and white balance.  A little too close to the lamps and too long as it started melting the transmission plate and front armor plating....

 

Fortunately, I caught it before more serious damage was done.  The fix?  A little panzer gray to blend the blemishes into the base coat, then grabbed a spare length of track of appropriate length.  Glued on a couple of small pieces of evergreen plastic rod to hold the links, cut a small piece of brass from a PE sprue and topped it off with two wingnuts that were spare parts from an earlier Panzer IV build and voila....

 

 

Also glued on the winch motor and cable reels just prior to the final assembly.

 

 

The brucken slats were painted with a base coat of MM deck tan, dry brushed with MM raw umber and given liberal dilute oil washes with burnt sienna.  Burnt umber dry brushing was done to produce the oil/exhaust staining, followed by a final wash with dilute black oil to highight the wood grain.  The entire surface was then sprayed with very dilute Tamiya Buff as a dust coat and to blend everything together.  Then, the final assembly

 

 

 

 

 

There she is.  finished... I think.  I was considering adding some mud to the chassis and bridge and dirtying the tracks a bit with a pigment treatment.  But I kind of like the thing as it is.  What do you think?  Does it need more dirt and mud?

 Don

 

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Posted by detailfreak on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:25 AM
 pordoi wrote:

detailfreak:  nice progress on the nashorn.  The interior looks really sharp.  I like those open tops; gives one lots of opportunity to customize and make the vehicle look lived in.  I'll be following this through the weathering steps.

Even looks like you've got the tracks on correctly..... Whistling [:-^]  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 Don

yup.PORDOI:went back after our short discussion on track orientation and consequently broke track on a few pzr III @IV vehicles.as i stated earlier ,it seems they all start out right but end up wrong,lol.thanks for the supporting comments.also your bruckenlager looks like shes ready for action,a fine addition to the collection.if you dont mind my downloading a couple of shots for refs.i add them to my photo collection.whats next.panzer IV with a mine roller? Make a Toast [#toast]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Geist on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:51 PM

I'm making some god progress with my IV D. I'm building the late version with add on armor plates. I'll post some pics once I get time.

 

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:50 PM

Here is where I'm at now with my KugelBlitz.I'm not really thrilled with the camo,but I usually feel that way before a build is finished.

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:50 AM

HOLY ARMOR DIVISION BATMAN!   Geat stuff still coming out of the build.

While I wait for the decals for my T-55 top show up I can't just be sittin' around wit my thumb..er..ah.. doing nothing.  So I am getting ready to work in stripe #2.  Its the new Dragon 1/72 Pz IV F1(F).  This will be my 1st 1/72 sclae kit and this looks like a real beauty.  Sure A lot of parts are molded on like some of the tools, lifts hooks etc but there are a lot of part and the detail looks great.  One great feature is the road wheels have the center as insert so the rubber can get painted separately.













Marc  

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  • From: Louisville, KY
Posted by pordoi on Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:11 AM
 wing_nut wrote:

One great feature is the road wheels have the center as insert so the rubber can get painted separately.

 

What?  No indy tracks?   Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 Don

 

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:21 PM
 pordoi wrote:

There she is.  finished... I think.  I was considering adding some mud to the chassis and bridge and dirtying the tracks a bit with a pigment treatment.  But I kind of like the thing as it is.  What do you think?  Does it need more dirt and mud?

Evil [}:)]...Don, you do realize I am part of this GB, right...Now what do you think I'll say???  Luckily Disastermaster isn't here...Wink [;)]

Joking aside, this baby looks really good, another outstanding build!...but based on its intended use its feels a bit too tidy, IMO. I'd dirty her up like you mentioned...

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:10 PM
Hey Don don't laugh.Wink [;)]  I have a Dragon Elefant 1/72 that DOES have indiesDead [xx(]

Marc  

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:21 PM
 TD4438 wrote:

Here is where I'm at now with my KugelBlitz.I'm not really thrilled with the camo,but I usually feel that way before a build is finished.

 

Oooohhh, I dig that... that's purty... grrrr... has anyone asked to marry it yet?? Kisses [:X]

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by detailfreak on Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:46 PM
LOL holy crap wingnut,my wife says your little tank thingy is cute.hahaha.i just could not help but LMAO.but please this is not meant to hurt your feelings or cause hate and dicontent.cant wait to see your f 1 completed

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Posted by Geist on Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:12 PM

Whooo! My MK tracks came in! I'm going to go mess with them now...

 

EDIT: Grr, I forgot to order a 36cm sprocket! I also just noticed that the main gun barrel is missing. Would anyone happen to have a L/24 laying around for a Tamiya they don't need?

 

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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  • From: Louisville, KY
Posted by pordoi on Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:25 PM
 TD4438 wrote:

Here is where I'm at now with my KugelBlitz.I'm not really thrilled with the camo,but I usually feel that way before a build is finished.

 

 Hey TD4438, I think the camo is interesting.  Not something that you see everyday.  Only thing that struck me was that there were no brown spots in the dunkelgelb on the rear left corner in the photo above.  All the other dunkelgelb regions seem to have both rotbraun and grun spots.  Call me weird, but this was one thing that I noticed right away.  What are your plans for weathering?

 

Wingnut:  1/72 Elephant indy tracks are almost twice the width of the PzIV tracks.  Where's the fun in that?  Big Smile [:D]

 Don

 

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