Knights of the Sky II- The End

MrDrummy

Ok-- thanks, Stephen.  Have done a few more panels, and am not being quite as anal about the fitting of them together.  Ha.  Phew.  I was worried for a second!Thanks again, Stephen.  Like Scotty inferred, having someone like you around in a group build like this really makes a big difference!!

My thanks to you, Scotty and all gentle folk here.  Its not a problem helping someone who appreciates it.  Model On fellow wing nuts!

StephenLawson wrote:

Greetings Justin; Lozenge fabric was never meant to line up entirely.  The only reason it does here, is that the wing chord (leading edge to trailing) is pretty much the same from wing root to wing tip.  The opposing sides don't match.  Your doing fine.

Ok-- thanks, Stephen.  Have done a few more panels, and am not being quite as anal about the fitting of them together.  Ha.  Phew.  I was worried for a second!

Thanks again, Stephen.  Like Scotty inferred, having someone like you around in a group build like this really makes a big difference!!

[quote user="StephenLawson"]  Fokker Streaked camouflage 1/48 - painted. Here the finished Fokker type streaked camouflage. The wings were hand painted at the factory and the streaked fields varied from airframe to airframe.

To continue, here are some examples of hand painted streaking on Eduard and DML Dr.I kit fuselages.

Greetings all here is a bit more progress.  Note the angle of the streaking tend to vary from one upper surface to the other.  Also elevators and ailerons were done separately on all "production aircraft."

MrDrummy wrote:

Um. So I started my lozenge camo, and couldn't seem to line up my first two panels right.  Here's a pic: Now, between the two panels, it seems like they'd line up fine, but there are these little... fragments of a darker green color that are in there that I'm just not sure about.  What are these things? Am I just up too late and am missing something obvious?  ANyway, here are my first two panels put together.  Bad job I say.  I've tried putting it on the other side, flipping it around every which way, and there's just no way.  Anyone?  What's going on here?

Greetings Justin;

Lozenge fabric was never meant to line up entirely.  The only reason it does here, is that the wing chord (leading edge to trailing) is pretty much the same from wing root to wing tip.  The opposing sides don't match.  Your doing fine.

soulcrusher wrote:

Just a quick update. I got the decals on the fuselage and I fitted the lower wing and stabilizer just to see how it looked. What do you guys think?                                                                                Soulcrusher

 Soulcrusher, That is a fine looking Fokker. I really like how the streaked camo camout. It looks spot on. Very nice job on the lozenge too.

Justin,

Those little green spots almost look like some kind of alignment markings.  With a guy like Stephen Lawson in our group though, I am certain that he will know what the real story.  It is also a bit difficult to judge the size in the photograph, but rib tape over the seam might cover it well enough to make them disappear.  By the way, that engine is SWEET!

Marco,

Your Dr.1 continues to come along nicely.  I look forward to your completion photos.

soulcrusher.

That is one excellent job on the streaking, and the initial assembly looks very good. 

Thanks, Marco. Your Fokker looks great.  Can't belive that's 1/72!  Wow!

As far as my fabric-covered wing,  we'll see.  I'm thinking that there's something a little more complicated to my problem.  It seems that maybe Roden's pattern is not able to be "flipped" as it should be, and that's what I was missing the whole time.  Hmmm.

Stephen!  Where are you!?  Heeeellpp!  Haha.

Mr.Druimmy, I've never tried that kind of stuff, but you could try to touch up with some paint where needed.  You can use some water based acylic paint - ifunhappy with the result, you can easely remove it with a q-tip moistened with some window cleaner. This is just a thought.

SC, brilliant job! 

Here's some more photos of the Fokker

I tried to reproduce the txtile look of unpainted canvas on the "wing" between the main gear wheels, using the finner plastic mesh I had around and airbrushing some Pale Sand and Ivory over a white base. The result is very subtle and hardly noticeable! Next time I'll go for an harsher contrast.

Cheers

Um.

So I started my lozenge camo, and couldn't seem to line up my first two panels right.  Here's a pic:

Am I just up too late and am missing something obvious?  ANyway, here are my first two panels put together.  Bad job I say.  I've tried putting it on the other side, flipping it around every which way, and there's just no way. 

Anyone?  What's going on here?

SC-- Very, very nice, buddy.

That really turned out nice.  So, so, so very glad that you didn't ditch it.

Just a quick update. I got the decals on the fuselage and I fitted the lower wing and stabilizer just to see how it looked. What do you guys think?

                                                                             Soulcrusher 

Guy thank you. I always pick the most difficult paint job and not always on purpose. I manage to shoot myself in the foot alot when there are choices for markings. I always somehow manage to pick the toughest one.

Shephen you seal of aproval make me feel much better that it looks correct. I was waiting for your post. Now I can go forth and know its correct. Thanks agian for you all of your input.

Mobious I apperciate it. It took me a long time and alot of thinking (something I try to avoid when not at work) to come up with a technique. Several failed attempts and some disinformation from Eduard and I am finally done. Man that wast almost like work!

Justin the Mercedes is looking good. I painted mine all nice but then I stuffed in the fuselage never to be seen agian excepy the valvetrain sticking out of the top of the cowling. I'm glad you will at least be able to see more of yours.

                                                                                 Soulcrusher

Here's where I am at the moment.

My Mercedes D. III:

Painted on the little placards.  Kinda fun.

I'll be doing a Fokker D.VII that has some of the engine panels removed, so you'll be able to see a big chunk of this engine.  Thought I'd at least try to do it some justice!  Still going to add a few more things (spark plug wires, and some more piping in the front.)  Will post pics when I get those done!

Starting on the lozenge camo here in the next couple of hours!  Eek!

Wow SC, You've nailed that streaked camo! Me Likey!

 Marco, the level of detail in the 1/72 Eduard DR1 is amazing, and you're doing an excellent build and having fun too.

 MPScotty, looking forward to seeing progress on the Pfalz. 

soulcrusher wrote:

Ok no major set backs today. I masked of the bottom of the fuselage and painted it. Then I gave the whole fuselage a coat of Future so I can do some decaling tomorrow. I have left the radiator off so I can install the exhaust pipes last. I had installed them earlier but in the early version they exit right through the side of the cowl and I kept breaking them loose so I am going to install them later. Here is a pic of where I'm at now. Almost like building the real thing. Build a bunch of sub assemblies then put them all together. The fuselage colors all got much darker when I put a coat of Future on it but they will lighten up once I spray some dullcoat over the whole thing after decaling.  Soulcrusher

Nicely Done!  Excellent representation.  I'll go with an A+ on this streaking attempt. Model On!

Exellent catch on the paint streaking SC. Ive heard thats its a difficult technique to get right, but it looks like youve nailed it. I loved that kit. I built the fully lozened version for this GB earlier. I must admit though, that i like the look of yours much better.

Marco, what a fantastic looking kit, and in 1/72 as well. I need one of those. Does anyone have a link to the supplier? Ive looked but cant find one here in the UK.

...Guy

Marco that is an absolute work of art. Glad to have you here in this GB. That engine looks like you could flip the switch on the magnetos and turn her over.

Justin I can feel it all coming together now. Nothing but clear sailing ahead!

Scott man I am learning about WWI biplanes. Sometimes the hard way. Information is not as easy to come by as in WWII subjects and good photos are scarce. I am sure there are books out there but I do not want to spend alot of money on books that I am not going to use alot. There is probally just as much wrong info out there as there is correct. As you have seen the color guide for my Eduard kit is pretty much worthless. I had no idea this was going to be this tough!

                                                                                           Soulcrusher

Marco,

Looking good!  I built the same plane for Knights of the Sky part one last year.  I tried something different by painting the wooden parts and the fabric parts.  The other Edurad strip-down kits that I built were straight out of the box with only the plastic parts receiving paint.  I will anticipate your future updates.

Soulcrusher,

The repaint looks great!  Until Knights of the Sky grou build one (last year), I thought that the base color for the streaking was a light shade of blue.  If you look at the old Squadron In Action booklet, that is what they show and describe.  As it turns out, the base should be a linen (light tan) color.  Just like you, I have learned a lot by taking part in these group builds.

Frank,

By all means replace the Hansa-Brandenburg W-29 with the Pfalz D.III.  I still have not figured out what to do with the floatplane.

Thanks for welcoming me and your kind comments!

The propeller was painted with a light sand color (I used Tamiya Acrykic paint). After being completly dry, I painted a thin layer of Burnt Umber oil paint (reduced with a bit of terbentine). After the oil was a bit dry (just some 15 to 20 min.), using an old brush (with the hairs split apart) moistened in clean turbentine (dried on a paper towel after diping it on the turbentine) I made the wood grain, just by draging it along the propeller. At this stage it seems as one piece of wood (not laminated wood). After a couple minutes more, with a fine tiped brush, moistened in turbentine, I cleaned the regions I want to be light wood. I left it to dry for a whole day and checked its look before clearing it with two coats of satin varnish (Laquer). Care must be taken not to touch on the parts painted with oils before sealing them- they are extremly fragile.

I hope I was clear enough. If not, feel free to ask!

Cheers

SC-- VERY NICE!!!  Man, that really looks great.  Hurry up and finish this thing!  You're almost there.

Marco- WOW!  In 1/72 scale!?  That thing looks better than most of the much bigger kits that I've seen built.  How'd you paint your propeller?!  Wow, great job!

Hi:

Daywalker was very kind, calling my atention to this great GB (there are some many great models over here!!)!

I originally posted these WIP photos on the Aircraft subforum.

I don't usually build WWI stuff but this little model has received my constant attention for the last week or so.

This is Eduard's 1/72 stripped down version of a Fokker Dr.I. I'm building it almost OOTB. I'm not modeling a specific airplane (it is kind of a airplane before being covered with canvas, during construction). 

 I planed it to be painted as sub-assemblies, shown in the following photos:

 I started painting it last Saturday and this is its present state:

I hope you like it as much as I'm having fun building it.

Cheers

Now THAT looks great SC!  Well done, looks so much better.  Sure am glad you decided not to round file this baby, she's really looking the part now.

Ok no major set backs today. I masked of the bottom of the fuselage and painted it. Then I gave the whole fuselage a coat of Future so I can do some decaling tomorrow. I have left the radiator off so I can install the exhaust pipes last. I had installed them earlier but in the early version they exit right through the side of the cowl and I kept breaking them loose so I am going to install them later. Here is a pic of where I'm at now. Almost like building the real thing. Build a bunch of sub assemblies then put them all together. The fuselage colors all got much darker when I put a coat of Future on it but they will lighten up once I spray some dullcoat over the whole thing after decaling.

                                                                         Soulcrusher 

SC--

Very, very cool!  I'm glad that you didn't toss that thing.  I'm sure that it looks great, dude.

I should have some pictures of my Fokker's engine this evening, if I can peel myself away from the nice day we're having outside!  Ah.  So nice to sit and have a cold beer outside...

Good news Frank I apllied the same technique to the sides of the fuselage as I did on the top and it was able to achive the same effect. I ended up going with a little more streaking than the pics posted of the Dr I in the earlier pics but that was a different plane so mabye it was'nt done exactly the same way. I also took yur advice and gave it an overspray of Buff wash and it gave it a nice weathered faded look and tied the two colors together better, It also lighten the base color that I used which was a little to tan and lighten it a bit. I am sure it is not exact but it looks resonable. I will post some pics later after it dries a bit. Thanks agian to everyone who has helped me through this minefield of information. I feel like I'm back in school agian but I am learning and trying many new techniques I would not have tried otherwise. Which was the very reason I joined this GB to learn. So what grade do I get so far Frank? (Substantial bribe to follow upon receiving good grade) Shhhh do'nt tell!

                                                                                   Soulcrusher