Knights of the Sky II- The End

Thankyou Stephen, ive bookmarked those and will come back and look again and again. You have been building these things for a while now, im betting LOL.

Anyhoo, I finally got round to finishing of the Macchi M.5 floater. Ive draged with the final finishing off and dont really have a reason LOL. Heres the pics. I used some of Bobs buckles here and there and like the look of them a lot. I think ill be using them again in the future,

I hope you like it as much as i do. It was a good fun build.

...Guy

Luftwoller wrote:

"Drummy or Stephen, could you post a link to the crazy painted DR.1's or the Rickenbacker Dio? I love seeing your work Stephen and your dio's are something else. . .Guy

These are just a few but here you go;

Albatros Fighters

Fokker Dr.I

Nieuport Fighters

Zeppelin Staaken R.VI

Pfalz Fighters

Fokker D.VII

A longer list can be found here.

Drummy or Stephen, could you post a link to the crazy painted DR.1's or the Rickenbacker Dio?

I love seeing your work Stephen and your dio's are something else.

...Guy

MrDrummy wrote:

". . .What about the bottoms of the wings?

Same configuration as the top wing.

See Stephen, that's why I love what you do--- you've got all the history too.  It's the most interesting part to me!

So no crosses on the tops of the bottom wing...  bummer, since I already did that.  Will have to paint them out!

What about the bottoms of the wings?

A further note to the scheme of 450/17 at this time.  Jacobs had it repainted (the black here is newer that 470/17.)  The white crosses may simply have been unfinished. The black center strips to be added later. All we have in the public domain is the white crossed version.   The cross dimensions are the uneven aspect versions of this time period.

The primary mount was the Fok. D.VII 365/18 so the "god of the north wind" was transferred to it. 

His Fok. Dr.I 470/17 had open ended crosses (as described by Jacobs in his combat reports.)  

450/17 was destroyed on Oct. 3, 1918 when he had to crash land it.  Something happened to Fok. D.VII 365/18 and he quit flying it. 

470/17 was then gived the "god of the north wind" motif and he flew it through Oct 1918.  He was called to Berlin for the third type testing event and of course the war ended on Nov. 11, 1918.

MrDrummy wrote:

Yes, Stephen, that is exactly the a/c that I want to do.  My profile, however, says that this particular aircraft is 470/17 instead of 450/17.  I'm definitely going to go with you on this one! My big problem now is trying to figure out what was on the tops of the wings.  I looked for photos of your model of this a/c, and can't find any on your site (though I did find a bunch of other amazing looking Dr. I's.  That white a blue striped one is AWESOME!  The little vignette of "Rickenbacker's 22nd victory is a show-stopper!) Here is what I have, and what I am working with.  Do you think that this was what it looked like?  Also, were there crosses of any type on the bottom of the lowest wing? . . . THoughts?

Looks like someone has confused profiles.  Look at the bottom of the page of the link I gave you.  This is w/n 2075, Fok. Dr.I 450/17 was flown during May & June 1918 by Ltn. Josef Jacobs as commander of Jasta 7. This is a DML kit with decals from the Super Scale sheet.

my builds here.

Yes, Stephen, that is exactly the a/c that I want to do.  My profile, however, says that this particular aircraft is 470/17 instead of 450/17. 

I'm definitely going to go with you on this one!

My big problem now is trying to figure out what was on the tops of the wings.  I looked for photos of your model of this a/c, and can't find any on your site (though I did find a bunch of other amazing looking Dr. I's.  That white a blue striped one is AWESOME!  The little vignette of "Rickenbacker's 22nd victory is a show-stopper!)

Here is what I have, and what I am working with.  Do you think that this was what it looked like?  Also, were there crosses of any type on the bottom of the lowest wing?

THoughts?

This is my interpretation of 450/17 in early June 1918.  It was again repainted by Sept. 1918 in the earlier March-May configuration.

Here is a link to more info on Jacobs (and others) Dr.I types.

my builds here.

This is my intrepretation of 470/17  before Oct 3, 1918.

Judging from your white vertical bar you ar doing a repainted 450/17?

Where I am at the moment-- top wing simply set in place for the photo.  I've got lots and lots to do, still.  On the profile that I have, you can still kinda see the old markings underneath the black paint, so I will attempt to recreate that effect.  We'll see what happens.

StephenLawson wrote:

MrDrummy wrote: ". . .I'll be building Josef Jacob's 470/17, which is an all black scheme.  Stephen, if you're still around here, did this particular a/c have crosses on the bottoms of the bottom wing?  I've seen a couple of different profiles, and I'm not sure which is correct!. . ." I think I can help you with that.

Thanks, Stephen.  I've just started the painting process, so you're right in time!  I'm painting the thing with Tamiya's acrylic Nato Black as the main color, because it's not really a straight black.  That would just look a bit silly, now wouldn't it? :)  Anyway, I know that it has crosses on the tops of the top and bottom wings, but now sure about the bottom of the bottom wing.  Any history on this particular a/c? 

Thanks again!

Fantastic work Stephen, youve got building these things to an art form. This camel is amazing as usuall.

...Guy

wing_nut wrote:

Nice jub Steve.  So now I know where the bar is that I have to shoot for.

Whoa now!  Just because I will go a mile to build a Camel,  does not mean you have to start drinking! 

MrDrummy wrote:

". . .I'll be building Josef Jacob's 470/17, which is an all black scheme.  Stephen, if you're still around here, did this particular a/c have crosses on the bottoms of the bottom wing?  I've seen a couple of different profiles, and I'm not sure which is correct!. . ."

I think I can help you with that.

Cool Camel, Stephen!!  Like Frank said, your stuff always does have that "in the field" weathered look about it.

Nice job!

MrDrummy wrote:

Frank's bribing people AGAIN?  Frank!!

AAACK!  Quiet SC, or no more 109s! LOL...

Scott- Sorry to hear about your decal woes, hope you are able to find a solution soon.  Hang in there buddy!

Stephen- Absolutely gorgeous work on that Camel!  I really enjoy seeing your work, as your weathering skills always have that "real" look about them.  Well done, and page one updated!

Frank, call this one done! Use either image for the end presentation.  This is the end of the tail. . .er uh tale.  My thanks to Merlin at Aeroscale and to the generous people at Eduard for the review kit.

Justin- Good to see you have not lost your touch!  Amazing detail, and I can almost smell the castor oil.

Marc-   Looks like you're up to your usual tricks, turning out stunning work at a break-neck pace.  Well done, wood effects look especially nice.  Keep it up!

Frank's bribing people AGAIN?  Frank!!

But yes, it's difficult!  The decals are one of the weirdest things for me, too!  For mine, I'll have to spray the markings before I even assemble the aircraft!  Just seems so...foreign to me!

And it sure is nice to have something different in your display case, for sure!!!

Now back to building!

Marc the Camel is coming along great. I agree building these WWI birds really seem to suit you talents well. I really liked the way you shaded the low areas of the wing.

Justin I know what you mean about how weird these old birds build up. It is my first serious attemp at one and I really can not get use to having to use decals in some of the first steps of constructions like the lozenge pattern on the inside of the cockpit. Also real weird covering the whole wing with decals?! Now I am stuck on duplicating the streaked camo on the fuselage. I have a plan on how I am going to go at it. I just hope I can pull it off. Still I love learning new skills and it should add a little varity to my display case. Besides Frank bribed me with a bunch of Me 109's to join the GB

                                                                                    Soulcrusher

Marc, that is looking so good, my friend. I love the wood effect. Shes going to look great when shes all done. You should stick around these parts and build a couple more. Looks like you have a talent for these things. LOL.

Scotty, sounds like youve had a bit of a disaster. Stick with it though. Sometimes putting a 'pear' down and coming back to it later, youll have a new lease of life with it.

...Guy

Thanks Guy, Marc!  Appreciate the kind words.  I'm just now remembering how weird it is modeling WWI subjects.  There are so many things that you have to do differently than when you're modeling other things.  Wow.  I can't tell you the last time that I painted a model, and then put it together, but that's definitely what I'm doing on this one!

Marc, that Camel is coming along nicely, buddy.  How much longer til you're done, do you think?

Marc and Guy,

Excellent work gentlemen!

Frank,

I have just about given up on the Hansa-Brandenburg W.29.  I am having no luck with finding a replacement decal, and I managed to knock the plane off of a chair (I placed it back in the box while contemplating what to do next with it) and broke all of the exhaust pipes from the engine.  Although I have not thrown in the towel on this one yet, my arm is cocked back and ready.  Once I clear the Tirpitz from my bench, I will get back to this build in earnest.

Justin you are kickin' butt and takin' names. 

This is where I am at the moment.  Did a few thing backwards that is making it take longer.

Justing that engine is just amazing. Seriously. Does it run?

...Guy

Ok, here are some pics so far.

The engine:

Interior:

Guns:

I rescued this thing off the shelf of doom, as it had been cannibalized for parts for the first KOTS build.  I'm having to scratch all the parts around the guns (which are from the Eduard Albatros kit that I used the PE guns from this Dr 1 on,) which is kinda fun.  It isn't something I've really ever done. I did the ammo chutes this evening.   Paint will be next, and will tell the tale on if I'm good at scratchbuilding or not.

Roger that Justin, page 1 updated!

I'll be looking forward to seeing your work on that one.