Knights of the Sky II- The End

Daywalker wrote:

By all means, to the Group Build Rob!  Who makes that Camel, so I can update the roster on page 1. Mo- Bummer about those decals!  How hard would it be to remove them both, and start over?

Hey Daywalker,

  The kit is an old Hobby Craft 1/32 Sopwith Camel F-1.  Don't now if the kit is any good or not, but we'll find out.

Thanks for letting me join.  More later next week with the start of the build.

StephenLawson wrote:

Aaronw wrote: I've found an odd bit with this kit, it comes with lozenge decals for the underside of the wings, but it is not in color. So I've been doing a little paint by numbers, but still have a way to go. It would have been nice to get filled in decals.  Here is the top wing painted, and the lower wing with the plain decal.  More Power Scotty wrote: Aaron,  That painting of the lozenge patern looks very nice indeed!  I wonder what kind of a sadist came up with that idea for a decal?  I am looking forward to seeing the finished product. Should we tell him about butted sections of fabric & rib tapes now or later?  The idea was done specifically for the Udet scheme for the first 3 in one packaging of the Revell Fokker D.VII kit in the old Fighters of WWI series.  That incarnation was dated back in the late 1960's before the Microscale 4 colour lozenge.  Later in the seventies The D.VII had its own 3-in-1 series with Udet, Berthold and Göring's late war mounts  (June - Oct. 1918.)   Truth be told we only have real images of Berthold's Early Schwerin built D.VII.  We assume he flew a late production type later in the war.  That version is what this scheme portrays. AaronW, don't let my comments disway you. You are doing a very decent job.  Most modelers would have quit by now.  Next time try the Microsculpt "lozenge" decals now available.

Not going to sway me off this, I thought about scanning the decals and filling them in using paint or photoshop, then reprinting them. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment, so I decided I'd try painting them. They are on the undersides of the wings so I figured it wasn't a critical issue if they were not perfect.

For the future I will be looking for pre-colored decals though, particularly because I really like the Fokker's with lozenge camo on the upper wings and want to add one at some point.

Also nice to know why they did the decals as they did, it may still be a pain. Knowing it was an attempt at making the most use of a set of decals is better than thinking some Revell exec has a thing for Torquemada.  

Daywalker wrote:

Mo- Bummer about those decals!  How hard would it be to remove them both, and start over?

 Given the limited  visibility inside the pit, the decals should work out ok. I checked it out before joining the halves together. I hope I don't run into any self inflicted problems like that on the exterior.

 Anyweigh, I've orderded a set of Microsculpt for an Eduard DVII that I've had in the stash for awhile.

By all means, to the Group Build Rob!  Who makes that Camel, so I can update the roster on page 1.

Mo- Bummer about those decals!  How hard would it be to remove them both, and start over?

 A photo of the E.V. pit. I had a major FUBAR with the port side decal, and had to replace both with ones cut from a Roden kit. Hopefully the colors wont be too out of sink with the Eduard set. The wood section was painted with Valejo TanYellow and Burnt Umber followed by a light wash of WN burt umber oil.

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Hi Guys,

    Is it too late to join this GB.....I have a 1/32 Camel sitting on the shelves and would love to build it while I have the time......

Aaronw wrote:

I've found an odd bit with this kit, it comes with lozenge decals for the underside of the wings, but it is not in color. So I've been doing a little paint by numbers, but still have a way to go. It would have been nice to get filled in decals.  Here is the top wing painted, and the lower wing with the plain decal.

More Power Scotty wrote:

Aaron,  That painting of the lozenge patern looks very nice indeed!  I wonder what kind of a sadist came up with that idea for a decal?  I am looking forward to seeing the finished product.

Should we tell him about butted sections of fabric & rib tapes now or later?  The idea was done specifically for the Udet scheme for the first 3 in one packaging of the Revell Fokker D.VII kit in the old Fighters of WWI series.  That incarnation was dated back in the late 1960's before the Microscale 4 colour lozenge.  Later in the seventies The D.VII had its own 3-in-1 series with Udet, Berthold and Göring's late war mounts  (June - Oct. 1918.)   Truth be told we only have real images of Berthold's Early Schwerin built D.VII.  We assume he flew a late production type later in the war.  That version is what this scheme portrays.

AaronW, don't let my comments disway you. You are doing a very decent job.  Most modelers would have quit by now.  Next time try the Microsculpt "lozenge" decals now available.

Aaron,

That painting of the lozenge patern looks very nice indeed!  I wonder what kind of a sadist came up with that idea for a decal?  I am looking forward to seeing the finished product.

I've found an odd bit with this kit, it comes with lozenge decals for the underside of the wings, but it is not in color. So I've been doing a little paint by numbers, but still have a way to go. It would have been nice to get filled in decals.

Here is the top wing painted, and the lower wing with the plain decal.

Looking very good Aaron!  Your masking looks very well done indeed.

Bob- I just sent you a question on your buckles on Ebay, saw you were online here so thought I would mention it.

Scott, fantastic looking builds, my friend. I love the Pfalz. Uber colourfull, those crazy krauts. The brandenberg looks kinda cool too. Never seen that one modelled before and i like it.

Aaron, nice work so far. Is that the seven dwarfs DVII?

...Guy

Well I finally got a chance to take some pics. This is Revell's 1/72 Fokker D.VII, I'm building the box art version.

Frank,

I should have added this to my last response, but here goes.  Yes, I do plan on building at least one more plane for this GB.  I am tackling a resin sub for another group next, but will make my way back perhaps with a 1/72 Fokker F.1 by Roden that I picked up when I was on vacation.  I also have a couple of other posibilities on their way, but I will let you know for sure when I get ready to start.  In the mean time, I will keep checking in to see what everyone else is doing.  

Stephen,

I sent the PM, let me know here whether you receive it or not as I have had limited success using them in the past.

Mobius,

Thanks so much for the kind words.  

Frank,

The Hansa Brandenburg W.29 was the first kit that I was building for this GB.  If you recall, I was down to the last decal when my luck ran out.  After letting it set and collect dust for several weeks, I finally decided that it needed to be finished.  The kit comes from Eastern Express, and is a reissue of a kit originally produced by Toko.  It is 1/72 scale and is about the same size as the Pfalz in 1/48, so it was a fairly large plane in real life.  I decided that my story is that this plane lost its left wing while landing in rough water.  When the new wing was installed, it had a different size cross painted on the upper surface.  Well, at least that is my story, and I am sticking with it.

 Hey Scotty, Both the Pfalz and the Hansa look great. I really like the looks of the Pfalz, very nice finish and the prop really sets it apart. Great work on the rigging too. One of my favorite aircraft and you've done it up nicely. Thanks for sharing your finished work and congrats on the Osprey book.

Brad,

That engine looks great! I am looking forward to seeing the plane that it will go in.

Frank,

I can work with Halloween for now (to be honest, I was hoping for the end of the year).  Due to my other favorite hobby (cycling ), it took a little extra time to wrap up the Pfalz and take the photographs, download them to Photobucket, and get to this point.  Anyway, here are the Pfalz D.IIIa and Hansa Brandenburg W.29, all finished. 

Comments from one and all are always welcome.

I apologize for the shadows, but I took the photos outdoors this evening after I finished a ride.

Fippin heck, Brad. Id have binned that engine, if you could have called it that. And look what it turned into. You are by all senses of the word, a genius. Fantastic stuff. Really looking forward to seeing what else you can do to the beast.

...Guy

Brad-

I added your RE8 to the roster!

Beautiful work so far on that engine.  Would you mind sharing your techniques for paiting the rusted exhaust pipes?  I really like the effects you have gotten. 

Hi all,

Here is my next contribution to the group build - the Aeroclub 1/48 RE8.  This one is going to be painted up in the markings of 3SQN, Australian Flying Corps.  Anyone who has tackled an Aeroclub kit knows that they can be quite rough, but in 1/48 this kit is the only game in town. 

So far, progress is limited to the RAF4a engine.  The Aeroclub engine was fairly heavily and roughly cast, but also had some fine details buried away.  I managed to carve a basic engine out of the flash and get something with which to add some details. 

Luckily for me, I will be modelling the aircraft with the cowls on so nothing much can be seen below the engine bearers or around the sides, so minimal detail in these areas is required.  There was no detail provded for between the banks of cylinders, so I added some details from wire, solder and plastic based on a few photos of the RAF4a that I could find on the net.  I also added some rocker arm details atop the cylinder heads.

I replaced the heavy and crude white metal air scoop with one scratch built from sheet brass and plastic.

I sat her all into the fuselage to see how she looked - looks roughly like an RE8 to me!  Looks like some work will be required on the tail fins as well...

Here is the engine with some paint thrown on:

Next I will start work on the interior.

All feedback welcome!

BC

Ok, twist my arm. 

Good timing on the extension, it just happens I started a 1/72 Revell Fokker D.VII this morning, so sign me up.