Regia Aeronautica GB II (06/15/09 to 06/15/10)

Oh man, i got up late today so no real time to look at anything. This is a post and dash Sorry kids. rom wat i did see though, it looks like we have several 'Almost dones' and someone made thier kid sick. We all know who to blame for that one. Aaron, im liking the idea of decals on the window but really, stick em on the plane.

Anyhoo, gotta go. Gotta try to do something to the plane tonight as well. Im so miffed. Not been able to do anything in ages it seems. Serious withdrawl symptoms Boooooo.

...Guy

Daywalker wrote:

Excellent work there Sean!  Alex (the freeloader!) looks quite pleased with your work, as the smile on his face is evident!  Well done, you make it look easy! Aaron- That is a stunning Macchi, love the cowl!  Yellow looks just right to me.   Hope you survive that cold snap (what I wouldn't give for a day in the 30's!).   Question for you guys... I found a profile of the aircraft I am modeling over at Wings Palette, and it differs from the kit markings.  Mostly, the profile shows a squadron badge of some sorts behind the cockpit, but the Hasegawa instructions do not show it or include it.  Does anyone have any photos or other info on this aircraft?  TIA!

http://www.365cheeses.com/2006/11/1_parmigianoreggiano_1.html

SC, its looking really nice and your right, it will look better with the dullcoat on it. Im really liking the red nose on it. I have never seen an Italian bird with a red ose.

Aaron, that is exactly what I had to do with my decal sheet. Mine were in the window about three weeks and it definetly brought the white back to them. They were a terrible yellow tint. I dont know if its part of the process but some of them had cracks running across them after. I was luck and only one shattered when it hit the model. I aint tellin which one so you guys dont go looking too close to find it.

I put the kit decals on tonight for the squadron markings and then a panel wash. So, so results.

Steve

Okay, maybe its the painkillers they've got me on...maybe its the fact that I haven't been to sleep for more than an hour and a half at any given time since last Tuesday...

Either way, this thread is getting downright creepy!  Sean, I musta missed something...is there a reason why you're making a little plastic Italian voodoo doll of me?  Trust me pal, you wouldn't want me helpin' with anything the last week or so, let alone brush painting rorshach blobs on your bird!...I'm finally off the meds enough to be able to type...that's it.  They tell me that one day I will be able to stop taking this stuff, and then my coordination will go back up...then I'll lend a hand, get to work on my D.520, stop being a slacker...until then, I'll just be a bother to you all.  

I'm pretty strongly Italian...50%, give or take...part of the reason why I like these planes so much...now, I know I've been out of it the last few days, but why is Bondo feeling us Italians up?!?

I think the purple strike looks...majestic...Caesar's toga and all that...do it Aaron!

Dave, my oral surgeron says to tell you that she took a look at my holes...my recovery is going slower than normal, and its all your fault!

Cheers, (but no drinks for me for a while!)
Alex

Aaron- that is the trick, I've done it alot as I really prefer the older kits, denial of my age I guess. It will take a couple of weeks, and if the decals shatter afterwards they were going to anyways- I know this too.

One word of caution- if the window collects condensation from the , um, heavy breathing that goes on in your house, move them or you'll have stained glass. LOL but true, trust me friend.

Sean I'm not Italian, I just fondle them.

Finished with the decals on the Re 2000 tonight. Going to let them set good and give them a coat of Future tomorrow. After a dullcoat then I will attempt to mount the very fragile looking landing gear and fabricate the strut rods that support them. Here is what she looks like now.

Kind of boring except the red nose but my airbrush is not working correctly so I chose the safe route and went with the overall dark green over gray. I think it will look better once the dullcoat is applied. It does'nt look right all shiney in that dark green.

                                                                                            Soulcrusher

Excellent work there Sean!  Alex (the freeloader!) looks quite pleased with your work, as the smile on his face is evident!  Well done, you make it look easy!

Aaron- That is a stunning Macchi, love the cowl!  Yellow looks just right to me.   Hope you survive that cold snap (what I wouldn't give for a day in the 30's!).  

Question for you guys...

I found a profile of the aircraft I am modeling over at Wings Palette, and it differs from the kit markings.  Mostly, the profile shows a squadron badge of some sorts behind the cockpit, but the Hasegawa instructions do not show it or include it.  Does anyone have any photos or other info on this aircraft?  TIA!

 Wow Sean and Steve! Those are some sharp looking fighters! Well done on the painting! They are excellent examples of some of the contrasting schemes the Italians had!

Woke up just in time to go to work ! so didn't get too much done. A little painting some touch ups and the white stripe reversed mask and painted. ( seems like we are all doing it that way) Still have a little yellow overspray on the engine to undo. Lazy masking.

Futured her up for decaling and see what happens tomorrow. On the Curiosity side I have heard several times that old yellowed decals can be un yellowed by the sun. The Smer ones in this kit were quite old and yellow. Although not being used for the model I figured would make a good experiment.

Always wanted to give that a try and since  The sun shines here I stuck it up in the window to forget about for a week.  Anxious to see the result.

 May have jinxed myself as it has gone from 78 when I stuck em in the window to maybe 30's tomorrow?  ACK!

Steve, your 202 is looking great.  Those decals really do the job. 

Sean, that 202 is looking great too.  Typical Italians though.  Too busy talking to do any work (sorry Bondo ) 

Summit wrote:

Dave - Accck   Your Wife is away playing her fiddle ? Is she in a symphomy or something like that ?

Yep, used to play full time until she went back to school to get her education degree to teach music in the schools.  And yes, she is a cultured snob but she doesn't mind slumming with the likes of me once in awhile. 

Summit wrote:

For Dinner tonight Veggie Pizza ~Cheese, Sliced green Olives, Onions, Jalapeno Peppers, and topped with sliced chilled avacodo and tomato slices before it hits the table. See we can do Italian also.

Had me drooling right up until the avocado and tomato slices.

Dave - Accck   Your Wife is away playing her fiddle ? Is she in a symphomy or something like that ?

Last of the spots for a while. I feel as if my eyes have crossed and rotated all the way back around.  

Alex the Pilot never did pick up a brush and help out. But boy did he ever tell some good jokes today For Dinner tonight Veggie Pizza ~Cheese, Sliced green Olives, Onions, Jalapeno Peppers, and topped with sliced chilled avacodo and tomato slices before it hits the table. See we can do Italian also.

Sean and Steve great work on both models. Going to add the decals to the other side of my Re 2000 tonight after I wrestle with my spinner decal on the 109. Whish me luck. I'm going to need it!

                                                                                   Soulcrusher

Steve -  I cant believe those smoke rings are decals. They look Fantastic

I had almost forgotten about the white band on the cowl. Mine is suppose to be as far back as yours but trying to mask reverse doesnt work out so well. I would have more spots done if If not for painting the cowl and prop hub today. 

Sean, very nice work on the camo spots. Lots of work went into that I am sure and it looks great. Did the same thing once on a Japanese scheme but that was many moons ago and before my airbrush days.

On my front here are a few pics of the decal job. I am still trying to find a sutable squadron or group badge. I may go with the kit decals.

Its getting there and a glosscoat and wash is up next.

Steve

razordws wrote:

I need some cheese and crackers.

Wensleydale by Chance ?

Sheesh, here it was all quiet this morning now look  - everyone must be on delay.

Aaron - your Chi-200 looks ready for action Nice job on the spots, wish I could of A/B mine.

Guy -  Nothing special, just a number zero paintbrush. I have a reference picture and draw a outline of a porkchop or other shape and color it in. I did add a Mickey Mouse shape in the mess - can you spot it...ha ha

Dave -  Nice picture of the relatives   I am using Wallace for my avatar pic over on the UAMF .

Here is where I am at now..

Luftwoller wrote:

If someone kicks off at your choice. There IS only one person to blame. ...Guy

Who would that be...

Aaron, seriously disappointed.  Purple would have been so the colour.

Sean, the spots are looking good.  Just need more of them.  I'll send my Ca 311 over to you to do the spots when its ready.

Bondo has been posting images of distant relatives so thought I'd post some of my own.  Great, Great Great Uncle from some remote branch of the family tree.  I need some cheese and crackers. 

Sean those spots look like theyve been sprayed on! Whats your technique? Very impressive so far.

Aaron, i agree with your choice. I tend to agree, knowing that trying to gauge colours from a black and white is notoriously difficult, the nose cowl does look yellow to me as well. Yet it might be pink! If someone kicks off at your choice. There IS only one person to blame.

...Guy

Very quiet! Everyone must be hard at work trying to figure out my cowling color issue. Yes I Am sure that is it! You fellows are the best!

Try to keep this short and sweet!  After singing Rick James and reading anything I could find it seems that white would be the safest choice!

Looking at the picture as a whole yet again you can see anything painted white seems to stand out fairly well.

The cowling even sems to show residue from the MG's. The neat demarkation line and even color leads me t think this was not an overpainted white.  The only other choice s yellow or pink.

Sorry Dave I had to go with my first instinct.

 I forgot to ask? What is a Wallace & Gromit tape? Some new masking agent?

Man to do that in 1/72 and look so smooth! Very sharp Sean! Very skilled at painting !

Still reading and reading.

Well I am going to give Dave a "Get out of Fault Card" today. I remember hin posting a pic sometime back with a Gazilloin hand painted spots. This stuff is enough to make a person Daffy. Alex- has refused to pick up a brush and help , all he wants to do is tell stories about ~ "There once was a girl from Nantucket Who crossed the sea in a bucket" The guy is making me crazy I tell ya.

Woo hoo, i enlisted another sucker entrant to the GB. Added to the front page Bondo. How is it that everytime you post something i feel hungry? LOL. As you may have workwed out, homework gets dolled out on a regular basis. Keeps the plebs on thier toes you know. Yours is to find a period pic of your plane and post it. Either that or send everyone in the GB some of the food!! Good man, glad you accept. Dave told me to set it BTW.

Aaronski, (Erring towards the russian theatre band bTW) Heres a piccy of the venturi on the 205, i should imagine its very similar to the one on your machine,

I like to feel that im contributing to the build. This shifts Sucks big. I have a long weekend coming up, so hopefully ill be able to get some serious work done to the plane then. When i get in and have something to eat, then shower, then do all the stuff the SWMBOed has thought about during the day but cant, because of her foot, its 10.00pm. Booooo.

Still bleeding Daves fault. Aaron, set him homework. Anyhoos, ive got to go to work very shortly, wish me luck.

...Guy

If we were voting on the nose colour Aaron I would go with the purple also, it's way too cool.

I got most of the kit decals down tonight and most went down well. They all had cracks on them so I am keeping my fingers crossed that they will seal ok and not silver on me. I had one national i nsignia shatter a bit but I put all the pieces together. Now for the problem of squadron or group badges. The two choices in the kit were not for smoke rings so I looked at the Grant decal photo but no joy. I can make the numbers. Going to search the internet for suggestions. Will post pics tomorrow when the decals are set.

Steve.

P.S. The decal problems were probably Daves fault.

I'm so happy! I may have to jump ship from the NAW GB, or not as I'm a commissioned officer. Hey by the way, what's up there? As the newbie I cannot say, but aren't there stripes to go around?

Because I'm Italian by, um sleeping in the same bed rights, I'll buy you all a primi corso.

This is going to make me a happy Paisan! This man is my new best friend. His grandmother and my wife's grandmother were sisters, one left Aquaviva in 1906 and the other stayed. He (Ercole, as in Hercules) owns farms, vineyards and a couple of nice buildings in town.

Ms. Bondos Grandma went to Buffalo and there's a whole other story.

razordws wrote:

Summit wrote: Dave - when you going to post pics of your pilot ? When I get around to painting it.  Still trying to figure out how to do fishnet stockings in 1/72.

great!  Now I'm gonna have nightmares of some hairy italian guy in fishnets, and IT'S ALL DAVE'S FAULT! LOL...

Sean- Alex looks right at home in his Macchi, though I think if you repaint yours with the purple nose you oughta paint his helmet and purse to match.

Well Sean it is already looking the part!  I got a couple old broke VCR's somewhere laying about that is a good idea.  Just gotta be careful in some of those things like Old TV's and power supplies as I have been told the old capaciters in them can carry quite a shock still years after being unplugged.  Well If it's true guess I'd be the one to find out!

Took a little nap as I have work tonight. Call me odd but I don't like being tired on 15,000 tons of anything that moves.

I have been searching and reading a bunch. There is a woeful lack of info in my books and the internet about what colors were used for what. Almost as if a unit level standard existed. Some Units with white nosed aircraft had a mix of no color and also yellow.  Started when Italy participated in the Battle of Britian to identify them to each other and the Germans.

I have even read that group commanders/ section leaders and squadron leaders marked there Aircraft with nose markings to identify there rank/position while in the air.

Everyone knows the German theatre colors of white in the Med and yellow in the Russian theatre which was follwed by her allies as well. However the nose colors are also varied in the luftwaffe albeit more standardized by orders and unit. The Italians seemed to lack such unifomity above smaller unit levels and thus harder to pin down.

All this reading has brought me back to square one which is .... You got me.

I blew up and expanded the pic. See some faded marks where British intelligence marked above the 153 for ID ref of unit.  Still not looking white which leaves tan or yellow.  Very hard with no known color ref in the pic but the color although appearing close seems to be different and all but impossible to tell for certain.

Still leaning towards yellow. Sort of a silly thing to be hung up on but it has opened some marking questions in my mind that I think are worth investigating further for the learning part of the GB's sake.

I think I'll just let it dry a bit until I get a better book or am convinced that I am convinced. I'll give another look tomorrow!

 Did not see any ref to Dave's color at all.  Better watch that feller!

Bondo that is a beautiful seaplane. The Fuselage shape is so much like the Catalina looking at it. Very cool!  

Summit wrote:

Dave - when you going to post pics of your pilot ?

When I get around to painting it.  Still trying to figure out how to do fishnet stockings in 1/72.  

Honestly, I've got my hands full at home and at work right now so modeling time is at a minimum.  Was also under the weather yesterday and watched movies all day instead of modeling. 

The Chi 202 is looking really nice BTW.

SLow progress today compared to the "Mac Machine" . Still lots of paint work due to come. "Alex"  wanted a pic of himself in the Chi-202

Dave - when you going to post pics of your pilot ?