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Helicopter Group Build 2009

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Posted by Avus on Friday, August 21, 2009 12:56 AM
 modelchasm wrote:

... ok, I just threw my MH-6 in the trash. HAHA!! Simply stunning, Avus ... stunning.

Thanks, MC, but don't do anything harsh! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Klaus

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Posted by modelchasm on Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:34 AM
 Avus wrote:

Thanks Jeremy!

The seats come with Cobra Company's resin NTS Update set and the fabric is "included". 

Don't get used to this speed but I have another update: added some wiring to the instruments and the fire extinghusher mounts in one pit and the complete fire extinghusher in the other.

 

... ok, I just threw my MH-6 in the trash. HAHA!! Simply stunning, Avus ... stunning.

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Posted by Avus on Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:21 AM

Thanks a lot bondoman!

If I got your request right, these are two 1/35 AH-1W Super Cobra NTS cockpits, built using resin parts (Cobra Company), photo etch (Eduard), styrene and metallic wire.

Klaus

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:21 PM

That's super cool, Avus. Hey, one thing that's helpful for us newbie types is if you all would remind us of what it is when you post. I really learn better when it's made obvious to me.

Thanks, and great models.

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Posted by Avus on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:11 AM

Thanks Jeremy!

The seats come with Cobra Company's resin NTS Update set and the fabric is "included". 

Don't get used to this speed but I have another update: added some wiring to the instruments and the fire extinghusher mounts in one pit and the complete fire extinghusher in the other.

 

Klaus

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Posted by jmabx on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM

Buddy, thanks for the comment! The pictures will be much appreciated! I too would love to see that thing shoot some flames out... that would put a big smile on my face. Big Smile [:D]

Klaus, the cockpit looks fantastic! Those rivets really add a nice touch. Is the cloth texture on the seats something you added or did they come like that? Also are the seats resin too? 

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by Avus on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:55 AM

 lewbud wrote:

Klaus,

The pit is looking good so far.  Are the rivets 1/48 or 1/35 being from Archer?  Did you have to apply each one individually, or are they like a decal?

Thanks, lewbud!

The rivets have no scale, actually. I used the smallest (). They are printed, cast or whatever on clear film. This way you can cut the necessary amount and place them in strips.
As you say just like a decal.

A simple but efficient idea.

Klaus

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:24 AM

Aaron,

Nice job on the H-19.

Klaus,

The pit is looking good so far.  Are the rivets 1/48 or 1/35 being from Archer?  Did you have to apply each one individually, or are they like a decal?

Jeremy,

The Hind is coming along beautifully.  I've got some pics of the winglets and the weapons hard points.  They'll be up in a day or two.  When I was out at the CWAM, the beat up Hind I found out has been donated to the local wing of the CAF.  They had the transmission and rotor head out where you could take pics of it.  Went to do so and found out I'd forgotten to replace the batteries in my camera.  Hopefully it'll still be out when I go back on the 5th for their fly-in.  Would take some pics of the Cobra pit they've got at the CWAM, but it's pretty beat up and a lot of the guages are missing.  Would really like to see them fire up the Hind, they say it shoots a fireball several feet out of its APU exhaust.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Avus on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:46 AM

Great looking H-13 , Aaron. I whish they made those in 1/48 or even 1/35.

 jmabx wrote:

Now... get busy on my digi camo Cobra! Big Smile [:D]

As you command!

Here's a little update:
I continued working on the office, using a mix of resin, PE and sheet-styrene. I also used, for the first time, Archer's Surface Detail rivets: these things are great! They go on easily and do the trick. They are the black spots on the IP.

Klaus

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Posted by Aaronw on Monday, August 17, 2009 9:06 PM
No, mine are all 1/72. The 1/48 is fairly hard to find, but it does seem to be cheaper than the 1/48 H-34 kits.
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Posted by jmabx on Monday, August 17, 2009 3:10 PM

Aaronw - Nice work on that one! They look so silly with the fat body and skinny legs! Big Smile [:D]

Is that 1/48 ? That's the scale I'm looking for.

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Posted by Aaronw on Monday, August 17, 2009 2:51 PM
 jmabx wrote:

I would love to pick up an H-19... especially with floats! Very cool! I see one every now and then pop up on Ebay but I always miss out.

Can't wait to see how you're doing with yours! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Italeri has the H-19 available now, boxed as an HO4S-3 (the US Navy name for it) that kit does include decals for USMC, Royal Canadian Navy and French markings.

 

I built this one using the USMC option last year

 

The H-19 with floats from Italeri may have been re-issued lately because I got mine from a hobby shop earlier this year and they had just received it.

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Posted by jmabx on Monday, August 17, 2009 1:06 PM

I would love to pick up an H-19... especially with floats! Very cool! I see one every now and then pop up on Ebay but I always miss out.

Can't wait to see how you're doing with yours! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Aaronw on Monday, August 17, 2009 12:42 PM
 Avus wrote:

We might as well rename this thread as "Jermy's Hind Build", since no one else (including me or better me "in primis" Disapprove [V]) is posting pictures!

Anyhow I think your helicopter is proceeding very well.
Reagarding the primer-love-hate: that's one of the things primers are for!

 

Well I finally got a chance to get building, I should have some pics up in a day or so. Since this will be the 4th time I built an H-19 (my first with pontoons though) I expect it to move fairly quickly. I'm already looking at other helicopters in my stash for a possible followup.

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Posted by jmabx on Monday, August 17, 2009 11:24 AM
 Avus wrote:

Anyhow I think your helicopter is proceeding very well.
Reagarding the primer-love-hate: that's one of the things primers are for!

Thanks Klaus! Thumbs Up [tup]

My ultimate goal is to throw on the first coat of primer and have everything be perfect! I know... pipe dream!

Now... get busy on my digi camo Cobra! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Avus on Monday, August 17, 2009 1:32 AM

We might as well rename this thread as "Jermy's Hind Build", since no one else (including me or better me "in primis" Disapprove [V]) is posting pictures!

Anyhow I think your helicopter is proceeding very well.
Reagarding the primer-love-hate: that's one of the things primers are for!

Klaus

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Posted by jmabx on Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:42 PM

Whoa! Got a little crazy with that last post! Blush [:I]

Little bit of an update to keep us hovering around here. I've been sanding all that beautiful primer to fix the many imperfections I missed. Still fixing and still more to do. I managed to get the wings together... if i thought the fusekage fit bad i was wrong. The wings were worse! Gaps, gaps, gaps large enough to put change in! Angry [:(!] I managed to get one wing almost finished and scribed. I also got the cool little pods underneath the nose on. Once again, I will have a lot of filling and sanding to do on them!

Bad pick for a first time helo but I think she's gonna turn out nicely in the end. (just need to keep telling myself that)

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, August 14, 2009 5:21 PM

Got an initaial test coat of primer on the main body of the Hind. I have a love-hate relationship with a primer coat.

A: I love it because it shows the flaws that need correcting.

B: I hate it because it shows the flaws that need correcting.

Still alot of work to do! Disapprove [V] I have never in my life used a file (yes file) to even out and sand 75% of a model before! Horrible! Angry [:(!] But I will whip it good!

*EDIT*

Sorry for the extremely large pictures... it wasn't supposed to happen that way! Blush [:I]

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Posted by jmabx on Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:51 PM

 Keep us updated on that Huey, Justin. I love to see progress pics! Thumbs Up [tup]

I was curious about the figures because I wanted to do something with a couple of pilots hanging around the Hind. I noticed that they had a modern Russian helicopter pilot set. The price seemed to convert to about $30 U.S. with shipping... twice what I paid for the kit itself. If they were really nice I might consider it but I'm no expert on figures and have nothing to base the quality on.

Anyone have a lead on Russian helicopter pilots in 1/48? Maybe even posable figures that just look the part? I'm not coming up with anything other than the Propaganda Kompany boys.

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:42 AM

actually, guys, the silver was just a ground coat, which I have built up subsequent layersof weathering onto, but to answer your question, It is actually just a duplicolor rattle can silver...nothing special.  About the figures...overall, they arent bad (but I have never used AM figures before, so I have nothing to compare to), and as for price, yes they were a bit expensive, although when paypal calculated the conversion it wasnt that bad.  Until I got an email saying that I didnt pay enough...the paypal conversionhad failed me!

Justin

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:49 PM
 jmabx wrote:
 bondoman wrote:
Be careful what you wish for...

Nick Nolte is a product of your genius? Confused [%-)]

BTW, bondoman, I checked out a few of your builds and I really like the subjects you model. Looking forward to seeing your progress here.

Klaus, very nice... hope mine comes out that good! Where do you put something that big?

No, but sometimes I kinda feel like that pic, so I have a soft spot for it. Thanks for the props, and Klaus that is very imposing.
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Posted by jmabx on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:27 PM
 bondoman wrote:
Be careful what you wish for...

Nick Nolte is a product of your genius? Confused [%-)]

BTW, bondoman, I checked out a few of your builds and I really like the subjects you model. Looking forward to seeing your progress here.

Klaus, very nice... hope mine comes out that good! Where do you put something that big?

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Posted by Avus on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 2:12 AM

Just like Jeremy I was wondering about the silver you chose for the cockpit, Justinryan.

 jmabx wrote:

 avus wrote:
I've built a 1/35 Hind and you can't notice it's painted from the outside.

I'm going to trust you on that one, Klaus! If it's noticable though, you have to fix it for me! Big Smile [:D]

NO WAY! 

 jmabx wrote:

BTW... Klaus, do you have any picture of the 1/35 Hind? I would love to see that! HUGE!

Here you go:

It's built OOB (no resin or PE was availble at the time) and due to hugeness i never finished the main rotor!

Klaus

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, August 10, 2009 11:10 PM
 jmabx wrote:

 bondoman wrote:
Interesting problem not encountered in most aircraft models! How about mask the inside and spray matte clear on the frames? Might be a little more forgiving?

Bondoman, you are a genius! Wish my brain worked like yours! Big Smile [:D]

Be careful what you wish for...

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Posted by jmabx on Monday, August 10, 2009 8:34 PM

 bondoman wrote:
Interesting problem not encountered in most aircraft models! How about mask the inside and spray matte clear on the frames? Might be a little more forgiving?

Bondoman, you are a genius! Wish my brain worked like yours! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, August 10, 2009 4:50 PM
Interesting problem not encountered in most aircraft models! How about mask the inside and spray matte clear on the frames? Might be a little more forgiving?
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Posted by jmabx on Monday, August 10, 2009 3:54 PM

 lewbud wrote:

Mask the inside like you would the outside, just make sure the edges match up so you don't have either color showing through the opposite side.  The RGA looks good.

Buddy, matching the edges is what I was afraid of. There are some serious curves to contend with and obviously no raised lines to run an xacto against like there is on the outside.

 avus wrote:
I've built a 1/35 Hind and you can't notice it's painted from the outside.

I'm going to trust you on that one, Klaus! If it's noticable though, you have to fix it for me! Big Smile [:D] I paint my planes from the outside, but being my first helo and realizing how much glass they have, I just needed an opinion from the pros here. Thumbs Up [tup]

BTW... Klaus, do you have any picture of the 1/35 Hind? I would love to see that! HUGE!

Justinryan - I'm curious... are you going to paint another color over the silver in your cockpit? Also, how are the Propaganda Kompany figures? I checked out their site but seems a little expensive to get them here from France!

Thanks to all! 

 

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Monday, August 10, 2009 9:44 AM

I finally got some pics uploaded...not much done, but some is better than none, especially with a one year old runnin' around!

Beginnings of painting the 'pit:

the 'pit with Propaganda Kompany resin side gunner in "test fit" position:

Motor assembly (the molds for this chopper are horrible!):

The other Propaganda Side Gunner:

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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Posted by Avus on Monday, August 10, 2009 1:18 AM
I'm away for a weekend and look at all the things that happened:

- Jeremy porcedding splendidly with his HindThumbs Up [tup]
- Ray posting pictures Big Smile [:D]
- Cavtanker is almost there, just needs to decapitate his pilot!Thumbs Up [tup]
- Jeremy mixing up deers with goats Big Smile [:D]
- Ray posting pictures, this time of a completed build!Thumbs Up [tup]

As for your question Jeremy, usually the interior color is painted from the outside; it's the first color you apply.
I've built a 1/35 Hind and you can't notice it's painted from the outside.

Klaus

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, August 9, 2009 11:31 PM

OK, Buddy, I'll update the list.

Have I missed anyone or is the UH-60 in 1/144 the first to be finished?  

John

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