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AIR RACER GROUP BUILD BECAUSE WE FEEL THE NEED FOR SPEED

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Posted by fermis on Monday, October 19, 2009 5:30 AM
 vetteman42 wrote:

Fermis You said you found the right props for your F-82 at the contest ?? What props are they and who has them ?

 This, sadly, is false. I picked up a pair of Ultracast blades for P-47s, they are way big for the stang though.

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Posted by avadon on Monday, October 19, 2009 6:11 PM
 fermis wrote:
 vetteman42 wrote:

Fermis You said you found the right props for your F-82 at the contest ?? What props are they and who has them ?

 This, sadly, is false. I picked up a pair of Ultracast blades for P-47s, they are way big for the stang though.

 

Was this for 1/48?  I am always on the hunt for 1/32 props. I'd especially love sea fury 5 bladed props.

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:01 AM
 yes, 48th.

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:00 AM

 Hey Vman, since my Galloping Ghost 51 will be 1/2 NMF(fuselage/white wings) I'd like to also throw it in the NMF GB......groovy???

 I've made a bit of progress, wings are painted along with the rudder(grey) and anti-glare, and the fuse shall be "metalized" tomorrow.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:52 AM
 fermis wrote:

 Hey Vman, since my Galloping Ghost 51 will be 1/2 NMF(fuselage/white wings) I'd like to also throw it in the NMF GB......groovy???

 

Fermis I think that would be niffty, both groups do allow crossovers my friend Big Smile [:D]

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, October 23, 2009 8:45 PM

Okay... maybe a little heavy on the shine but she is a racer!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, October 23, 2009 9:04 PM
Jmabx That finish is absolutily BEAUTIFUL !!! What did you use to get such a nice NMF ??? I am just stunned by it. And hey I dont think a racer can be too shiney. Oh I wanna see more of this build, that is gonna be one sweet looking Spit.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by fermis on Friday, October 23, 2009 9:04 PM

 Oh my Gawd!!!! You should really post the pics further down on the page, put in a disclaimer at the top:

  Beware: prepare to be blinded

                                   sunglasses required!!!!!!!!

 Just playin, man, that thing is gleaming!!!!

 What is your finish?

 I think you should diffinately not do anything to dull that down!!! Super shiney, like a racer should be!!!

      NICE

             FERMIS

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, October 23, 2009 9:08 PM

OOOOOOOOO SHINYYYYYYYYYY!!!!Thumbs Up [tup]Looking great mate!!! Looking forward to seeing the decals go on!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by jmabx on Friday, October 23, 2009 10:15 PM

Thanks guys... you're too kind!   I'll try to warn you next time. Cool [8D]

As you know, back when she was Spitfiretron, I covered her in heavily thinned Model Master gloss black enamel. When you spray it on really thinned like that, it has time to lay down nice and smooth before it dries. I let the paint dry all week (and it needed every bit of that time to dry) before I felt comfortable proceding. I then sprayed Alclad II "polished aluminum". I first spray on a light coat... just enough to show up on the model. After a couple of hours drying time, I use the cloth you get with a new pair of eyeglasses (you can buy them for cheap money) and lightly buff the plane. Next is a heavy coat of polished aluminum, dry and buff. And finally a third medium coat, dry and buff.The picture I took was after the second coat of Alclad... it was hurting my eyes trying to polish it so I just had to share! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

The third coat is waiting for some attention now. There are some flaws that showed up with the black coat but I just didn't feel like fixing them... lazy I guess. I'll let you guys find 'em when all is said and done. Wink [;)]

BTW, Randy and Fermis - I've poked my head in over at the NMF group build and I have to say... I think you guys have me beat in the NMF department hands down! Bow [bow]

Mr Richie - I'm slow so don't expect to see those decals anytime soon. I'll keep ya updated though. Make a Toast [#toast]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by daddy1 on Friday, October 23, 2009 10:39 PM

 Jeremy- I agree with the rest of 'em, SHINY, just as a racer should beThumbs Up [tup].Your Spit' is looking greatMake a Toast [#toast].

My F-82 won't be bare metal , but I will be going for one of those mile deep, polished, smooth, and very shiny finishes. In either dark blue or black, most likely black. Remember, the shinier the surface is, the less aerodynamic drag. Even the top aerobatic teams like the T-birds and Blue Angels have been known to wax down the aircraft before a show. Not only does it look good , but helps them slip through the air better.

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, October 23, 2009 11:40 PM
I'd like to join this build.  I have a Lindberg 1/32 Turner Special to do.  In the 1939 markings.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, October 24, 2009 12:19 AM
Jeaton01 You are in and welcome to the group. I really like the Turner Special and cant wait to see what you do with it.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:44 AM

Jmabx, Dinner [dinner] Thats about the shiniest and most flawless NMF i have seen on this forum sofar! You sir are an artistBow [bow] And thank you for explaining how you did it.

Makes my next question a bit of the right timing....

As you all know i was getting into this air races business ([;]) with a fictional Lavochkin LA5... Finished construction, filled the seams and masked the canopy.... so far so good, done that a few times now so that wasnt too hard to do...

I went and took it into my spraying booth and sprayed it in a gloss black color, using the airbrush ready revell enamel variant. Used them before and never encountered any problems sofar; just screw the lid off and hang it on your airbrush and youre good to go...

Misted the first layer on, much like jmabx did and left it to dry for 30 mins.... then a heavier coat.....left it to dry....and a third one.

For the second time now the paint is feeling like there is a layer of sand in that jar of paint. The surface should be smooth as a babies rear end but it feels really rough and not glossy at all...

Too much pressure...? Too little? Should i thicken or thin the paint more?

I feel like a greenhorn right now and slightly embarassed to ask these kind of questions but it has been the second time over now and i never really encountered this problem beforeBanged Head [banghead]

Any and all help is very welcome at this point as i am in a right mind of binning the model and start another one for the group...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:01 AM

Jeremy,

Nice work lad!  Can't wait to see the rest of her.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:28 AM
Richard I would try thinning the paint to start, sometimes even if it says airbrush ready you still have to add a bit of thinner. HTHThumbs Up [tup]
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:59 AM
Kermit sounds like the Orange Peel Monster was hiding it that bottle of paint. I have run into it before ( several times in fact) and what happens is the paint is drying too fast once it hits the surface, doesnt have time to flow and flatten out. Now keep in mind I only spray acrylics, I am sure the same would apply to enamels, I thinned mine out a little bit more and slayed that orange peel monster. I have developed the habbit of checking my paint by spraying it on a piece of paper first, if right where the paint hits the paper looks wet but not runny for a few seconds I know I am good to go. If I dont see that wet look I thin the paint a bit at a time until I do see it.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:36 AM

Kermit - I agree that you need to thin the paint. Do what Randy says... always do some test spraying before you start. Also, be careful with paint straight from the bottle. If you don't strain it, check it good. I opened a brand new bottle of paint once, thinned it and sprayed it on. The bottle was full of little pieces of black debris and it clogged my airbrush and left some wierd splatter marks on my plane.

John - Welcome! That Turner Special sure is a gorgeous plane. Can't wait to see that one! Thumbs Up [tup]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:39 AM

Thanks for the help guys, will try it againSmile [:)] Thought i set the pressure too high so dropped it and dropped it...hahaha

richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:01 PM

 Well, it's nowhere near as shiney as that spit, but, it's done!!! My first entry for this GB.

 Hasigawas 1/48 P-51d with Red Pegasas decals, "Galloping Ghost" in it's 1948 markings. It has since been highly modified and is still in the game.

 I used rattlecans for all but the NMF, which is my usual MM Metalizer, followed by a coat of metalizer sealer, decals, and another coat of sealer. I did a light wash on the panels of the NMF and just the control surfaces for the wings and tail. A bit of pastel powder finished off the exaust.

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        FERMIS

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:22 PM

 

Shock [:O]   Beautiful!   Bow [bow]

I may have the shine but it will be hard to get her looking as good as yours!

I gotta know... what did you use for a wash? I love the way it came out.

Absolutely stunning!

 

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:19 PM

 Thank you very much!!!

 The wash is just some cheap craft paint(water based), raw umber, thinned with water and a drop of Dawn(dishsoap)

 It came out a bit dirtier than I had hoped, but, I'll take it!

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:03 PM

Fermis Yup ya nailed the Galloping Ghost ! Looks great, the decals look good too. How did you like the Pegesus decals ? Any problems with them ? The water colors make a great wash in MHO, I have been using them. Oh and yes I did update the front page in both groups Cool [8D]

Looks like I am gonna have to pull out  Miss America and get her going we need more builds on the front page.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:06 PM
Great work, Fermis.  The finish looks really good for slightly aged bare aluminum.  I'm going to try that process.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by avadon on Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:25 PM
Fermis that is absolutely FANTASTIC!!  I was born in 77!! What a beautiful ship Make a Toast [#toast]
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Posted by bigfoot01 on Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:27 PM

Awesome work Fermis! Your Mustang looks perfect!

I have been in a model building slump since June, and I suppose it's time I start working on my first entry to this group build. Between family, paying job, and putting a new Ambo in service at the FD, I just have'nt had time or energy to start on anything. It feels great to be working on something again.

Here is proof that I am actually working on something for this group buildBig Smile [:D] I just started this morning:

This is what I had been working on getting it ready to go in service. Smile [:)]

John 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:31 PM
Fermis she looks GREAT mate!!! Very well done indeed!!!Make a Toast [#toast]Thumbs Up [tup]
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:38 PM
Bigfoot01 Great start on both builds lookin forward to your Airacobra and you know there arent enough of the other around.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by MIflyer on Monday, October 26, 2009 12:42 PM

Wow Jeremy, beautiful job on the Ghost. Looks used but not abused, like she just finished a lap and is being put back to bed for the day. Big Smile [:D]

How did the decals treat you? I bet if you sent a couple of those photos to Keith, he would post 'em on his website.

Kevin

Kevin Johnson    Ypsilanti, Michigan USA

On the bench: 1/72 Fujimi Ki-36 J-BAAR

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Posted by fermis on Monday, October 26, 2009 10:40 PM
 Thanks Kev. I had no troubles at all. I really like them decs. If I were really into racers, I'd mote depnitnitly buy some moe!!!

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