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70th Anniversary Battle of Britain GB - 2010

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:53 AM

I assume the light color is the 02.  it must be the lighting but your 02 looks much more tan than my 02 does.  What brand of paints are you using?

PS, not trying to be a paint Nazi, just interested.  It just goes to show that peoples perception of color depends a lot on ambient lighting and the method of reproduction.  Scale model representations of colors formulated and applied under war time conditions over 60 years ago are problematic at best.  Although RLM color schemes are some of the most documented historical examples we have, what those colors look like one's model is wide open to interpretation. 

As previously stated, your application of the pigments suspended in liquid medium is top shelf!

Satch

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:36 AM

Thanks for the compliments guys! Embarrassed  I'm not the greatest at it, but painting is my favorite part of the build.

 

satch_ip

Jeremy, is that 70/02 over 65 or 71/02 over 65?

It's 71/02 Satch. The 71 looks alot darker over 02 but when its under 70 it looks really light... deceiving. Hmm

Against 70/71

Beer

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:50 AM

Jeremy, is that 70/02 over 65 or 71/02 over 65?

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, May 1, 2010 7:56 AM

simpilot34

Jeremy that is looking great mate!!! Looking forward to seeing the motling go on!!!Toast

Ditto that, I love it!!!  Great work Jeremy, can't wait for more pics! Propeller

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 7:14 AM

Jeremy that is looking great mate!!! Looking forward to seeing the motling go on!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Spike190 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 4:56 AM

Jeremy your paint job is looking sweeeet Yes I'm sure it will be decal time soon. As regards my Spifire I did the suggested Tamiya mix for the dark earth and it didnt look correct to me so off it all came, I've redone the sky and hope to do the dark earth this week, Frank it a shame you had to strip your F16 but it was kinda nice to know I wasnt the only one Wink.

Stik thats some excellent work, really really great to see, keep it up Yes

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 2:26 AM

Jeremy, excellent paintwork and masking, it doesn't get any better than thatYesYesYes

 

 

 

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, April 30, 2010 11:49 PM

Great work on that interior Stik! Yes I can't wait to see some more.

I sprayed the splinter on tonight and hopefully I can work on the mottling tomorrow. I'm itchin' to unmask the rest of it!

Beer

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:10 AM

Stik that is stellar work mate!!!! Looking great!!!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:08 AM

Stik, Very nice work buddy it's looking great....All that detail in the pit and whats the bet you won't see it when the fueselage is closed.....But we all know it's thereYes

Frank, your stripping paint tooTongue Tied Must be an off day for the modeling gods, i had to strip the stripes off a mustangs rudder, but it was only one side and only a rudder....

Darren, good to hear your PC is up and running mate, i miss ya when your not aroundEmbarrassed so does Kremps...

 

 

 

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Posted by darson on Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:30 AM

Jeremy I'm going to jump on board with the others here, I have seen photos of two color mottling but it's always been mottle blob 1 is color A and mottle blob 2 is color B, I've never seen two tone mottling.  I thing the artist who drew up the instructions used a little artistic licence to show a feathered edge to the mottle.

Spike & Frank sorry to hear about your paint jobs, I've only had to do that once before and it was a real pain.

Nomad & Carlos outstanding progress on your builds please keep the pics coming.

Cheers

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:44 PM

nomad, Jeremy and Carlos- Excellent work guys, keep it going YEAH! 

Spike- Bummer about the paint, but how about this?  The same day you were stripping the Spitfire with Gunze thinner, I was stripping my Tamiya F-16 with Gunze thinner.  Sorry you had to do it, but it is a bit comforting to know I am not the only stripping kits!

Frank 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:51 PM

I have posted shots elsewhere of this build, but not here so far... go figure! anyways this is the very old Revell 1/32 Spitfire Mk I. I had been kicking around the idea of dressing up the kit but then a few months back, in FSM Magazine somebody did just that. So I began doing the same myself early this year. First off I added ribs and stringers using strip styrene match against the external rivet patterns. i also had a slight accident involving spilled liquid cement and the radio shelf which in the kit is attached to the back of the pilot's armor plate. Well research online showed me that such location was incorrect, so I cleaned up the error, scratch built a new radio shelf in the proper position and accident/error solved! During the process, I cut out the pilots door and built framework to match the reference photos I have. I also scratch built the two bottles behind the pilots seat using some sprue and a piece of brass wire for the connecting line.

Here are a few shots of the raw work.

And here are a few shots of the interior after a base color of the RAF Cockpit Green. If you look closely at the base of the instrument panel, you can see I added linkage for the control stick and rudder pedals.

And the heart of the Spit... the Rolls Royce Merlin

More pics will be posted as progress is made...Whistling

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:27 PM

Great work fellasYesYesYes keep the pics coming....

Spike, sorry you had to strip your build, I hate in when that happensSad

 

 

 

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Posted by jmabx on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:52 PM

jmabx

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4544418678_fdfd6c81bb_o.jpg

Thanks Luftwaffle... that was a big help with the mottle. Yes

If you look at the instructions, they also claim that the scheme you posted (#6) was Assi's. I'm doing #5. I cry foul! Wink

Sorry to rant so much folks. Embarrassed

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by luftwaffle on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:04 PM

The mottles would have been a single color as depicted in this profile (I think the instruction sheet was trying to capture a soft edge by portraying it that way):

This was Hans Von Hahn's aircraft, not Hans "Assi" Hahn who was flying with JG 2 during the BoB.

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by jmabx on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:42 PM

Sorry Satch, I left some info out. The instructions state - Hptm. Hans "Assi Hahn Oct. 1940 France. I/JG3.

No a big deal, as I'm happy to be modeling anyones aircraft! Stick out tongue Names and numbers just didn't jive for me.

Thanks for the help Satch! Yes

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by satch_ip on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:05 AM

Hans "Assi" Hahn served in both.  The following was lifted from the www.luftwaffe.cz site:

On 1 November 1937, Hahn was transferred to a new Jagdfliegerschule at Werneuchen as a flight instructor and Staffelführer of 1. Staffel. He received promotion to the rank of Oberleutnant on 1 February 1939 and was transferred to the Stabstaffel of I./JG 3, based at Meseburg. Oberleutnant Hahn transferred to JG 2 on 11 October 1939. He was assigned to newly formed II./JG 2, based at Zerbst, which was formed using the nucleus of personnel from I./JG 3 and I./JG 2.

I can't see the entire instruction sheet to see if it is accurate or not.  I'm in NY so I don't have my library with me so I'm sure someone else will chime in.

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Posted by jmabx on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:39 PM

Gamera - Awesome picture with the Saturn V in the background! Yes

Nomad - The Anson is shaping up nicely. Looking forward to seeing it with the wings on.

Mike - Sorry to hear about the paint... what went wrong? Sad  I'm sure you'll have no trouble this time around.

I did some painting and got the white (I used light grey FS36495 instead because it's not so bright) on the nose and tail, masked it and then squirted on some RLM65.

I can't wait to start some more painting but I have a question for ya. The instructions give a callout for RLM02 mottle on the sides but in the picture it looks like RLM02 with the other splinter color RLM71 painted inside the 02 mottling but no mention of that color. How would you paint it?

See how the color fades from light to dark on the sides? Are the instructions just showing fading or should I mottle over mottle? Stick out tongue

On a side note, the instructions say that this plane belongs to Hans "Assi" Hahn of I/JG3. I think it should be Hans von Hahn's plane because Hans Assi Hahn was with III/JG2. I'm not a big bugger for absolute accuracy but that seems like a big mistake. Maybe I have it wrong but I can't find a ref for this particular aircraft anywhere but the pilots are well documented.

Thanks for any help with the painting! Toast

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:14 PM

Hi chaps,

I'm afraid all was not well with my Spitfire paint finish and it was bugging me so I went at it yesterday with the Mr Color Thinners and stripped the paint off, I've just put some new primer on and all is looking well so far and hopefully I can make a better job of it this time.

Cheers....

 

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by darson on Monday, April 26, 2010 9:42 PM

Hi all, unfortunately a computer crash on my PC which bricked my main hard drive has left me on the sidelines for a while, but I'm back up and running now.

I'll go back and review the last few pages later on this evening and fix up the roster as needed.

Cheers

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Posted by Spike190 on Monday, April 26, 2010 4:17 AM

Nomad, nice to see you got your airbrush going, that's looking splendid Yes, keep up the good work.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, April 26, 2010 12:11 AM

Nomad glad to see the AB is back in action!!!! Really looking good!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by nomad68 on Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:12 PM

Hey everyone got the part for my airbrush and have painted the Anson interior looks better now. Here are some pics hope you enjoy. Wink

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:12 AM

MMMMMMMMMMM Thanks Mate!!!!!!!! That is a nice shot with the Saturn V in the background!!!Welcome Signback!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:20 AM

Guys,

Just got back tonight. Great vacation but bad weather down around Alabama and my head is full of pollen so I cut things short and skipped Pensacola. Yeap Satch I ran down to the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville Alabama. I've been down to the Kennedy center in Florida but this was my first trip to Huntsville.

At the risk of running off-topic here's your photos Simpilot!

Wait! There's more!!! I'll throw in a Saturn V launch vehicle for no extra charge!!!

 

Back on-topic- I'm afraid I'll leave some one out so let me just say 'great job everyone!!!' I'm eager to get back to work on my spit...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:05 PM

Managed to get a little bit done on the Messerschmitt today. I painted and attached the PE armor plate to the canopy. I could have cleaned it up better but me and PE don't get along well... parts tend to launch into outer space so I like to handle them as little as possible. Wink

While the airbrush was fired up, I also painted the prop and spinner. I had a hard time masking the light green but it came out okay.

Maybe tomorrow I can get the canopy attached which means more paint soon... my favorite part!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:35 PM

Great looking cockpit Rick! That Eduard PE is amazing.

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:52 AM

Rick, excellent work mate!!!! Well on the way to a masterpiece!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:22 AM

Excellent work fellas!

I sort of been distracted from the GB sense my Luftwaffe pilot was finished. When I get some more time I will flip through the thread and pick up some of your kung-foo techniques!Idea

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