Official Natural Metal Finish Group Build II

Moving inexorably toward sanding/filling/priming and then what's sure to be a very LONG painting process.

The lower fuselage gave me some headaches, but I finally got everything to fit. Pretty sure I messed something up on the landing gear, though. It just doesn't look right...

Cripes, that's thick plastic! Almost looks like a resin kit!

howdy!  I've just started construction on the MiG-21! 

The OEZ kit comes with really thick plastic, and a dorsal spine that the previous owner already hacked off--which means I'm going to have to do some cutting on the tail to get the other dorsal spine(s) in the kit to fit.  The kit comes with the option of building an  -MF, -bis, or -SMT. (I think the difference between them is the dorsal spine)  But with the kits -MF spine hacked off, that left me with the -bis because it required less slicing of plastic--remember, the plastic is really thick! 

here are some preliminary photos! 

and the scheme I will be using:

here is an example of how thick some of these pieces are, and the hack job of the previous owner (it's really rough. I already know I'm going to be using filler....)

OWL

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I havent taken a peek in here in a few days and I see the Mancaves have been in full swing. Things have been busy here on the home front and temps in my mancave have been in the 110+ for the last week. However I did get some work done today, nothing worth posting yet though.

Thunderbolt thats a great build you have finished there, from the quality I can see why it took you away from other builds. Very well done indeed

The Wildcat cockpits are looking top notch, I have tried PE belts and I too hate them, tape works much better it think, at least for me.

Cant wait for the Jug its gonna be an eye popper me thinks

Oh yes the 757 is getting close, very nice paint work and beautiful work hiding the seems my hat is off to you.

And the MiG-15 oh but she is lookin good, Richard I do believe you have the idea. Ya know sometimes slow is better Its gonna be worth it in the end I promise you my friend.

Doogs,

Thanks for the "bones"!!!

I have bookmarked the link on Alclad's because after reading it it was definitely what I was looking for and will use.

I checked out Ultracast and bought a set of the props and barrels. Never new they existed until now. Thanks for the heads up.

IBuild - Loving the Razorback! A few comments and suggestions, if I might...

First, with the Alclad, you may want to check out this article: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/nmfcb_2.htm. The guy uses Gregg Cooper's base coat/lightened coat/blending coat process and applies it to Alclad. Might be worth trying. I've also read (I think on Swanny's site) that sanding different panels with different grits or in different directions, etc, can change the way the Alclad looks when it goes down, for more variability.

Second, they're actually blast tubes on the P-47, so not necessarily finished in gunmetal. I've seen pics of some that were painted in whatever the plane was, others left bare aluminum, etc.  Because the muzzles were so far back, there was actually very little in the way of gun staining on the leading edges of the wings, so FYI for weathering. Master makes some droolworthy turned brass barrels if you're interested. Direct replacements on the Tamiya kit.

http://ultracast.ca/products/Master/48%20Scale/MAM-48-002/default.htm

Third, the prop. First, THIS POST has some great background on the four prop types the P-47 used (and a good look at the blast tubes in wartime, as well). Now, judging by the way the props look in the manual, I'd venture that's a 13' Curtiss-Electric cuffed paddle prop on the left, and a 12' Curtiss-Electric "toothpick" prop on the right. Judging by the photo of KT:

...I don't think either is correct. Sadly we can't see the propeller boss in this image, but going off of the blade shape, lack of cuffs, and the general look where the blades mount to the hub, I'm 99% sure this is a Hamilton-Standard paddle prop. But...there's a good chance that KT arrived from the factory with one of the Curtiss props and scavenged this one in the field. If you want to be a stickler for accuracy, Ultracast makes this prop for the Tamiya kit.

Can you tell I've been reading up on P-47s?

A little progress made on my Kansas Tornado:

Cockpit masked. Next prime and then the base coat of Alclad Semi Matt Aluminum with some panels done in Dull Aluminum. I am hoping this will achieve a "war weathered" look.

Canopy masked and painted black inside. Today I will prime the outside with gray and tomorrow Tamiya blue.

Guns painted using MM Gun Metal.

Comments and suggestion's welcome.

On another note. There are 2 different props with this kit. Does anyone know which one to use? One on the left or the one on the right.

As for the weapons and fuel tanks would all these be used on a "D" in some manner? I don't mean at the sametime.

Well, there's a saying about the best laid plans ... I had all kinds of good intentions for this holiday, daughter watching cartoons, wife not dressed for our day yet so voila!  bench time!

But alas, a major kink has derailed my hoped-for progress today.  As I was spraying the B-36 with alclad white aluminum, I realized that the quantity of paint remaining in the bottle was < the quantity of paint required to paint the entire B-36.  Nothing I can do about that save for purchasing more paint and waiting for the delivery service.  I did manage to get all of the upper surfaces painted and had just started on the under surfaces.  I left great swaths unpainted as there's no real reason to paint areas that I know will later be magnesium or dark aluminum or polished aluminum.

And on the good news front, it appears that all my leg work is going to pay off - I didn't see any signs of seams or that pitting that I worked feverishly at eradicating last week.  But it remains to be seen if that's truly the case as I just did a cursory examination while I was painting.  Once it is safe to pick up I believe I will take it outside into the sunlight to do a more thorough examination.

Looking good there Doogs, Getting close to the NMF comparison, should be interesting

Heaps of work going on in here, what is 7 on the go right now 14 finished and a thousand posts already...And were only about 3 months into it....

Major construction on the 'cats tonight! Got the fuselages joined, cockpits installed (thanks for the tip about that, Richard!), and the wings built. So far, so good. 

Tomorrow I'm going to focus on getting the lower front fuselage installed. The fit of the gear bay trestles has been giving me headaches. Most of the upper detail that's causing problems won't be visible really anyway, so I'm contemplating some slashing and burning. After the Dauntless, I'm pretty fed up with interior detail that interferes with the fit of the outside of the plane.

DoogsATX

B-17 - That 757 is intimidatingly good! I'm finally getting to the point where I'm pretty confident I can eliminate centerline seams from the canopy back to the tail on a WWII bird...but a giant cylinder like that? Gives me chills. Looks like you've nailed not only the NMF, but all the prep work under the surface, too!

Fortunately you can't see all the fill spots and seam repairs under the paint and there was a lot.  One section decided to break open and a thin layer of super glue solved that just before I was going to paint the NMF.

B-17 - That 757 is intimidatingly good! I'm finally getting to the point where I'm pretty confident I can eliminate centerline seams from the canopy back to the tail on a WWII bird...but a giant cylinder like that? Gives me chills. Looks like you've nailed not only the NMF, but all the prep work under the surface, too!

Kermit - The foil looks great! Can't wait to see the whole thing done up with it! Don't know if I'll ever have the patience to foil an entire aircraft, but I'm thinking of using some BMF for the cowl rings and exhaust plates on my Lavochkin La-5. I still haven't figured out how people apply little slivers of the stuff to already-painted aircraft though. I mean without it sticking to everything else and then having to be pried off of already laid-down paint. Anybody got any tips?

jmabx - Thanks! The belts are just Tamiya tape and Eduard PE buckles. Painted the tape Vallejo Deck Tan and hit the seat with a sludge wash. That's it. Definitely using this technique in the future. 

Steven - I'm glad you managed to get the undercoat sorted out. Getting a smooth, consistent finish can sometimes be a pain in the a$$ on a big kit... especially one of that size!

Julez - The Mustang is coming along nicely! Paint work looks nice and smooth.

Doogs - The cockpits look amazing! The belts look very realistic. They're just Tamiya tape with PE buckles?

B-17 - I'm really looking forward to seeing how the 757 comes out! I've never built a big airliner but I'm facinated with them. Nice work so far!

Kermit - What gives??? I've never seen you build this slow!   The foil looks like it's going down pretty good... keep at it!

Julez, B17, Doogs and T-Bolt, great work boys, attaboys all around. Love your work!

Progress on the Mig is slooooow but steady LOL:

Richard

Really nice looking orifices Doogs!!!!

More progress tonight! Now that the Dauntless is done and off the bench, I expect the Wildcats to ramp up substantially.

Great work all round guys!!!!! I more than likely won't be catching this build but definately(tentively speaking) catch the next one. Just so many GB's and friends hosting and in these GB's!!!! Still love being in the cheering section!!!

SMOOOOOOOOOOOOTH NMF on  this 757.

doogs,

The cockpits are looking good and I do like the seat-belts

Hey thats some nice paintwork B-17, very smooth....Great job

Great work all around ya'll

Some WIP was made.  My AA757 is all painted. Got some touch paint to do that slipped through but all in all, not to bad, especially around the curved winglets where the NMF leading edge curves up.

Doogs, very nice looking work on both offices

Got back around to the Wildcats while I left the Dauntless' re-flat coat to cure. Assembled the side panel pieces, painted the headrests and painted the various bits that need to be black. Planning touch-ups, drybrushing, and details tomorrow. Might even try to get to the wash.

Also took my first stab at DIY belts using Tamiya tape and some PE bits snipped from Eduard belts. They still need touch-ups, detailing, wash, etc, but even at this early stage I don't think they look too bad at all. Definitely a lot easier to shove into a natural position!

Julez, the 'Stang is looking all kinds of gorgeous! Masking sucks, but there's nothing like that feeling of peeling the tape away and seeing everything looking just so...

Thats the first thing i thought when i saw the pic...."It's a Thunderbird"

Hey WIP pics.....

A tortured 2 hours of masking..

Only to be pulled off in 5 minutes...

Thanks for the comments, guys! You might be interested to know that it's a 100% acrylic paintjob -- I had meant to do the NMF in enamel but realised I had no thinners when the day came, so that's a Tamiya acrylics finish, X-11 Chrome Silver toned down slightly with 10% XF-16 Flat Aluminum -- three coats. Four coats for the satin white...

Julez -- Thunderbird 12 -- ROTFLAMAO! -- but a very astute observation, because I'm positive this design and the technology behind it strongly influenced the designers of the hardware in both the show and the comics over the ten years after the Hawk kit of 1959 was released!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

Thunderbolt379

Hi all,

I thought you might like to see why I've been absent from the halls of GroupBuilddom lately -- I had a deadlined project underway which ended up involving some very late nights (like a 6am finish once!) to get it done. It's an all-resin kit of a 'paper' bomber design from the late 50s, a Convair drawing board type. This was my first foray into all-resin construction, and I was pleasantly surprised by the quality.

I can't say too much about it as it's destined for magazine coverage in the near future, but at least I have an excuse for not being in action on my all-too-many GB committments. I hope to get back to them very soon!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

So this one is Thunderbird 12??? seriously though thats a cool looking model, and a very nice finish

Aggieman, glad to hear you have it sorted, it's a big one thats for sure...

That XAB-1 is really striking!  Nice and clean build too.

As for my B-36, I think my plan of attack described in my last post is actually going to work.  I sanded it down with film last night while flipping the channels between the Gamecocks, Utes and Houston Texans (ahh, I can't get enough football!).  This afternoon I put down another coat of Krylon.  From initial inspection, it seems the paint is leveling pretty well and I don't see evidence of any of the pitting I described earlier.

This is a 3-day weekend where we'll be leaving for Aggieland in the morning, staying over with the inlaws tomorrow night.  It won't be until Sunday night or Monday before I get more bench time, which works out well since I feel like she needs to fully cure before I pay her any more attention.  The Peacemaker, that is.

WOW!!!

That is definitely out side the box.

Thanks mate!!! Really looks like a timeless overall design!!! Not far from some of the concepts being put forth now. Obviously way ahead of it's time. I have a documentary that goes into talking alot about the NB-36 with the reactor carried aboard and must say that the weight of the reactor wouldn't have left much of a payload to be carried even then. Nuclear power for an aircraft is very impractical as was steam tested in the early days of aviation itself. the machinery needed was just too heavy. Great looking build btw!!!!