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Variable Geometry: the Swing Wing GB

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  • From: Louisville, KY
Posted by pordoi on Monday, December 6, 2010 6:20 PM

Hey, no problem Bish.  You said earlier that there would be a short break away from the bench.  Will be good to see further progress on the 1101.

How come it's the little things that take so much time?  This update shows a few of the final steps to complete the Bone.  Not that there are no obstacles left (see below).  The main thing that I've recently accomplished is to paint, weather and install the bomb bay doors, which pretty much completes the payload compartments;

 

 

 

I've also added some of the defensive ops antennae.  Curiously, the Eduard PE set provides the antennae for the rear of the aircraft;

 

 

but not the forward antenae.  So I made them from Evergreen sheet plastic;

 

 

The Eduard set also includes the antennae located behind the flare dispensers;

 

 

I also didn't like the how the Eduard set portrayed the upper steps of the crew ladder.  Seemed to be just too thin relative the the lower steps on the kit supplied part.  So I cut and replaced the upper steps with brass rod;

 

 

Lastly, I removed the masks and found that I have a litle work to do with the clear parts.  There was a slight step between the canopy windows and the fuselage which will require smoothing.  Some delicate sanding since there are a few decals very close by.  Still working to smooth that area;

 

 

but you can see the "nose" art of aircraft 85-084;  Hard Rain.  And a glimpse of Commander's arm.  Remember way back?  There are figures in the Comander's and co-pilot's seats.

Now the obstacle: The PE set provides the six pitot tubes that are located on the nose.  Six small circular bases and six very small sensors.  Small PE parts are usually a recipe for disaster for me and this was no exception.  Five of the circular bases went on just fine; the sixth went "ping!!" when I tried to pick it up with tweezers and was lost to the carpet monster.  Angry   OK, no sweat since I had recently purchased one of my own Holiday gifts; a punch & die set.  Just punch out a plastic disc and continue.   But the sensors are even smaller, and a long, long, long, long story short... I lost two of those before even installing a  single one successfully.  Crying  So now I'm thinking about how I can replace them with plastic parts. 

That's it for now...  Let's see how everyone else is progressing.

 

Don

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 6, 2010 4:52 PM

Don Just to let you know i haven't forgotten about you guys. During my time away from the bench, most of my time on here regarding GB's has been on my own which is now up and running. I am back to camp on Thurs and as i will have alot of free time i am expecting alot of progress on both kits.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 9:02 PM

Kevin, I pity you, I cant really imagine respraying my 1/32 swordfish let alone a 1/48 Bone.

On the flip side the postie delivered my seatbelts today so I cant start there and move one to another section afterwards

Andrew

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Posted by macattack80 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 10:52 AM

Andrew, If I ended up having to strip the paint off this thing I would just throw it against the wall.  Bang Head  Luckily it was just the wrong shade of gray.  Easy fix.  Yes    Although I seem to always have to strip the paint of my model cars at least once during a build because I am not happy with the results or have paint runs.

Working on some sub assemblies might keep you in the grove of your build while you wait for the PE.

Kevin

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 8:25 AM

PS but thats only because I already stripped the paint

Andrew

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 8:19 AM

LOL, I'll try and get some time in tomorrow.

Andrew

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Posted by pordoi on Sunday, December 5, 2010 8:11 AM

Konigwolf13

My situation? Still waiting on my PE. Might start on some other parts just to be doing something with it.

 

Why not give it a go and join the fun while waiting for the PE.  Gotta be easier than  stripping paint  Wink

 

Don

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 4:27 AM

Pordoi, Looking great, bummer about the undercarriage problem, par for the course with kit though.

Mac, Bugger to hear about the paint job. Last time I did that that I did that I stripped the paint, strange  you didnt? (OK really really bad joke). As it is I have to strip some paint off the hull on a 1/350 missile cruiser and not looking fwd to one bit.

My situation? Still waiting on my PE. Might start on some other parts just to be doing something with it.

Andrew

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Posted by pordoi on Saturday, December 4, 2010 12:22 PM

Off to a nice start Vetteman.  Glad to have you on the active list of the GB.  Blacked out canopy, eh?  I guess they didn't want anyone climbing up and stealing state secrets Smile   Sounds like you're planning to add some plumbing and detail to the wells.  Look forward to seeing the Tomcat take shape.

 

Don

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Saturday, December 4, 2010 8:43 AM

Vetteman, the Tomcat is coming along nicely.  That is an interesting choice of painting to black out the cockpit to resemble a museum display.  Pretty sweet. 

As for the vents, I don't think there are any screens on them.  The cooling vents on the fuselage do but those particular vents don't.....as far as I know.  I am by no means an expert but from the photo walk arounds I have looked at, I never was able to see a screen or anything on them.

Kevin

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, December 3, 2010 10:29 PM

Man lots of nice work going on here the Bones are stunners guys wow.

I got a start on my F-14A finally and have a few pictures to share with ya.

Not much cockpit work to worry about on this build, its the F-14A of VF-41 parked at the Ronald Regan Library, the canopy is blacked out.

I will have to do some work in the gear bays though.

Decided the air-bleed vents ? Needed some work so I added some plasticard sides and back, then will add the actuator when I close the top portion. I have pictures of what it looks like from the inside of the intake but have no picture of what the vent looks like on top. Does anyone know if there should be a screen there of some kind to keep FOD or furry little creatures out ? Could be feathered creatures also Stick out tongue

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:05 PM

pordoi

Tough luck, Kevin.  But on the positive side, if everyone is sick now, you'll likely have a healthy Holiday season.  Get it over with now.  Then you'll have lots of modeling time while you're off from work and the family can enjoy the holidays..  So hang in there for a few days and all will be fine.

We've been lucky so far; my girls have stayed healthy despite some nasty stomach virus being passed through the schools.  Fingers crossed. 

I'm taking a day or two off from the B-1  to avoid the tendency to hurry on the last stages of the build and make errors.  Did get the bomb bay doors installed and I'm just about ready to remove the cockpit masking. 

 

Don

 

Thats a pretty good point you made about the holiday season Don.  Toast

I usually hurry finishing a build as well.   It seems, for me anyway, that as soon as I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, I start running towards it.  Good idea to give it a day or two to recharge the Bone batteries Big Smile

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:58 PM

Tough luck, Kevin.  But on the positive side, if everyone is sick now, you'll likely have a healthy Holiday season.  Get it over with now.  Then you'll have lots of modeling time while you're off from work and the family can enjoy the holidays..  So hang in there for a few days and all will be fine.

We've been lucky so far; my girls have stayed healthy despite some nasty stomach virus being passed through the schools.  Fingers crossed. 

I'm taking a day or two off from the B-1  to avoid the tendency to hurry on the last stages of the build and make errors.  Did get the bomb bay doors installed and I'm just about ready to remove the cockpit masking. 

 

Don

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:01 PM

Well.....the whole family is sick....again.  So no bench time until everyone is well. 

I went back and had a look at the build on the ARC forums a few more times.  Just WOW.  That is some fantastic work that builder did.  Slick case he built for transporting the bird around too.

Kevin

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:23 AM

I am glad you noticed that, cause i didn't. I wasn't sure what that bar was for, guess the second green must be because i past 1,500 posts, taken me long enough.

I hate those type of forums with the posts laid out like that. I think this forum was like that when i first joined back in 02 and i only posted a few times, just couldn't get the hang of it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by macattack80 on Monday, November 29, 2010 9:49 PM

pordoi

 

Well, I guess that I won't be posting there any more.  Think of it this way Kevin; it's something to aspire to.   ....If you have the patience and desire.

I don't know that I have...

 

The desire is there and maybe the patience.....but I lack the skill.  I am working on that though.  One model kit at a time.  You sir are much closer to that than I.

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Monday, November 29, 2010 9:36 PM

macattack80

Yeah.....makes me want to quit

 

Well, I guess that I won't be posting there any more.  Think of it this way Kevin; it's something to aspire to.   ....If you have the patience and desire.

I don't know that I have...

 

Don

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Posted by macattack80 on Monday, November 29, 2010 6:55 PM

pordoi

Oh, and check out the B-1 shown on ARC; here (scroll down past my post)

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=4079&st=960 

 Amazing build.   

 

Yeah.....makes me want to quit

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Monday, November 29, 2010 6:28 PM

Hey Bish!   Congrats on the acquisition of your second green bar!   So does that make you a captain or something?  I'm so confused  Smile  Salute!

Didn't do anything really involved with the white.  Just sprayed Tamiya X-2 gloss white, then gave the assemblies a rather heavy wash with diluted black oils to bring out detail and give everything a dirty look.  Next, a lighter wash with diluted burnt umber oil, added in areas that I thought would be exposed to dirt and frime.  That's pretty much it. 

Oh, and check out the B-1 shown on ARC; here (scroll down past my post)

 

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=4079&st=960 

 

Amazing build. 

 

Don

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:53 AM

Nice job overall. And i really like the look of the wheel and bomb bay. Going to have to go back and see how you did that. I haven't worked with white on that scale since getting back into modelling but would love to be able to nail it like you have.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:59 AM

Nice job on the burner cans.  They look great.   Bow Down  Tough break....literally on the landing gear.  Angry Seems like you fixed it up well enough.  Thanks for the heads up.  Wouldn't expect anything less from this kit though.

Your Lancer is so close to being done.  Nice work.  The fiddly bits part is where I usually rush things and have a few alignment errors because of it. 

As for a display you could build a nice wood cradle so you could take all the weight off the landing gear.  I might do something like that.

I hope all went well for you for Turkey Day!

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:41 AM

In the home stretch now.  Got the featherless exhaust cans painted and attached.  I like the way they turned out.  Nice detail on this set from Cutting Edge.

 

 

 

Landing gear and the bay doors were also installed yesterday.  First, be sure to install the outer gear doors (C86,87) before attaching the landing gear as they will be almost impossible to attach afterwards,  The main landing gear were a bit problematic.  First, I mentioned before when I assembled the main landing gear that one set was warped.  This caused one set of wheel to float, no matter what I did to try to correct the problem.  My only hope at the time was the the weight of the finshed model would be sufficient to settle them.  Well, I lost that wager and probably compounded the problem by the way that I attached the main gear.  These are tricky to align.  The front gear should be attached first and let dry.  Then the main gear can be glued.  The difficult part is to align them fore/aft and get all wheels to sit flat without dislocating them from the fuselage assembly.  I tried to align them with the drag braces attached (parts C105,106) and glued.  But those braces are where you can get some fore/aft play to align (by sanding the locating pins at the front of the braces).  So I limited my options by my approach and in my efforts to get them straight, I broke of the front gear wheels Angry   So Kevin, when you begin to attach the main gear, look at the option of aligning without the drag braces, and gluing the braces in once the main gear at straight.  That said, here is the front gear which went without a hitch (aside from my breaking off the wheels)....

 

 

 

... and the rear gear. 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, one set of wheels on the right main gear still float.  So this clearly is not a contest competitive model.  And I have decided that the only place I can display this is to hang it from the ceiling.  This will allow easy viewing of the bomb bays and hide my error with the landing gear alignment. 

But the aircraft no longer needs the cradle; it can stand on its own.

 

 

Next up, install the bomb bay doors then attached antennae and other small parts.

 

Don

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Posted by macattack80 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:22 AM

Small update on the Bone.....well a fix actually.  I repainted the belly of the beast.  She is looking good.  Another day of drying time and I will redo the upper fuselage and post some pics.

Kevin

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Posted by macattack80 on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:24 PM

pordoi
 

Well, worked once or twice for me.  After that, I walked into the house with the wine and the wife said " Is that a pocketful of ModelMaster or are you just glad to see me...  Tongue Tied

 

Nice Don.  Real nice.  Yes    Happy Thanksgiving to you as well sir. Toast

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:39 PM

macattack80

Hmmmm.....wine, that's a pretty good idea Don.......is your last name Juan?  Big Smile

 

 

Well, worked once or twice for me.  After that, I walked into the house with the wine and the wife said " Is that a pocketful of ModelMaster or are you just glad to see me...  Tongue Tied"

As for the Bone, good to hear that teh correction will not be as involved as you first thought. 

Have a great Thanksgiving.

 

Don

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:16 PM

pordoi

No, no!  Tell her that you feel like having a bottle of wine with a candle lit dinner.  Then go to the LHS and on the way home, stop at the wine shop.  The paint should be easy to hide...  and who knows what other benefits a candle lit dinner with wine will have...   Big Smile

 

Hmmmm.....wine, that's a pretty good idea Don.......is your last name Juan?  Big Smile

On a side note, after I gave the Bone a once over before I started repainting and I painted the wings in the correct pattern on the first go.  Huh....maybe the fumes got to me when I painted the rest of the plane.

 

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:05 PM

macattack80

I might spray the Gunship Gray tonight.  I think I have some left.......If not I will tell the wife I "have" to go to the LHS to get more paint.

 

No, no!  Tell her that you feel like having a bottle of wine with a candle lit dinner.  Then go to the LHS and on the way home, stop at the wine shop.  The paint should be easy to hide...  and who knows what other benefits a candle lit dinner with wine will have...   Big Smile

 

I spent the entire evening weathering the insides of the bomb and gear bay doors.  I seem to consistently under estimate the time it takes to do these oil washes.  Given that they are dry tomorrow. I might have an hour or two to install the landing gear.

 

Don

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:41 PM

Ok.  Last night I sprayed the belly of the beast the correct color of Euro I Gray.  I might spray the Gunship Gray tonight.  I think I have some left.......If not I will tell the wife I "have" to go to the LHS to get more paint.

Kevin

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Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:16 PM

pordoi

 macattack80:

I do have a few bottles of single malts......  Not a bad idea.  My scottish liver needs to be fed anyway  Big Smile

 

 

Oh, then we would definitely be in trouble if we meet face-to-face.  Toast 

 

Don

 

Well, If I can convince my wife to go on the Kentucky Bourbon Trail we will have to meet up and have a few pours then  Toast

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:46 PM

macattack80

I do have a few bottles of single malts......  Not a bad idea.  My scottish liver needs to be fed anyway  Big Smile

 

Oh, then we would definitely be in trouble if we meet face-to-face.  Toast 

 

Don

 

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