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Hunting After Dark, 2011-2012 Night Fighter Group Build

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  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Monday, April 18, 2011 1:39 PM

Looking good Greg...what are the dots on the insignia on the port wing?


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Posted by Gregbbear on Monday, April 18, 2011 1:13 PM

Hmm... I might try some dot filters too.  I've never done it, and not on a black a/c either.

Satch, I am scheduled to be on shift.  I am trying to get someone to cover me, so I can go.  I've never been. Are you going?  Have you been before?   I too try to never venture inside 410 unless work takes me there.  I worked o/t at the Flambeau parade and I was amazed at how much they trashed the city!  Garbage cans everywhere with sanitation workers emptying them out, yet people just dumped stuff where they sat.  Never in my life have I seen people litter so much!  I had fun, but only because I enjoy my job.

Looking at my pictures, I see I need to blend the fading better.  I just started weathering, so hopefully more washes etc. will help.

Cheers,

Greg

- yat yas!

 

   

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, April 18, 2011 10:58 AM

Good call on the purples - I had done a NF Hurricane several years ago & went with a half&half of Tamiya black + Midnight blue(?), turned out too blue to my eye though. But blues & purples as a filter could shift it just enough.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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  • From: Hancock, Me USA
Posted by p38jl on Monday, April 18, 2011 10:54 AM

maybe some deep/dark pulples Vance? ever seen a Crow or blackbird upclose? they have some deep purple in them.. ( Smoke on the HO... fire in the sky )..

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, April 18, 2011 10:02 AM

yep - I remember washing dad's black truck every other weekend when I was still at home. That thing showed EVERYTHING. I think I'll be sticking to middle-tones of red-green-blue-brown. Whites & yellows are going to show through too much.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, April 18, 2011 9:44 AM

VanceCrozier

I'm interrupting for a question folks - has anyone in here tried dot-filtering on an all-black aircraft? I''ve got a P-38 nightfighter tha should soon be getting time under the airbrush & I'm looking to break up the all-black finish a little. Just wanted to have a look at somebody else's work first! Big Smile

I haven't...but one thing I learned with the Mossie is that black aircraft are like black cars. While you might think the black would overpower washes and filters and such, actually, EVERYTHING shows up. So...go easy I guess...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, April 18, 2011 9:29 AM

hey Vance, I haven;t seen one done that way,,but as an FYI,, all the -M's were deployed in Japan right after the war ( IIRC ), and saw little use for long, so they should not have been to heavily weathered.

but, to help your question, I think more dark purples, deep reds, might work over the black to offset it ??...

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, April 18, 2011 9:22 AM

I'm interrupting for a question folks - has anyone in here tried dot-filtering on an all-black aircraft? I''ve got a P-38 nightfighter tha should soon be getting time under the airbrush & I'm looking to break up the all-black finish a little. Just wanted to have a look at somebody else's work first! Big Smile

WOW - crazy squiggles on that Stuka! Indifferent

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Monday, April 18, 2011 8:17 AM

Trey,

Call me even more impressed, I would have lost my mind even trying to do the amount of squiggles. Bow Down


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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 18, 2011 7:54 AM

Trey & Razor: Yow, that's some mottling guys! Love it.

Greg: Very cool, good to see kids being educated about heros like Chennault.

Satch: Thanks, but I think you have me confused with Razor maybe? I haven't posted anything in a month Embarrassed. Still with Nightfighternut's help I'm starting to get back underway and hopefully will get some more work finished.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by satch_ip on Monday, April 18, 2011 7:29 AM

Trey and Gamera, wow.  Better man than I Gungda Din!

Greg, Fiesta for us non drinking partying people is a reason to stay away from downtown.  Except for the IPMS meeting, I rarely venture south of the airport.  Gary's and Hobbytown are both above 410.  Are you going to Dallas on the 20th of May for Scalefest/Squadron open house?

Satch

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Posted by Gregbbear on Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:31 PM

Fantastic squigles and mottle!  You guys are awesome.

I managed to clear the P-70, decal it (they suck), and started the weathering.  This will be first attempt at the south pacific, beat to crap look.  I will try and post photos later.  My camera just doesn't capture it well.  In person you can see the subtle difference with the pre-shading etc.

Last weekend I had my own "weekend madness" build.  My son needed to make a Fiesta (Fiesta is a big to-do here, parades, carnival lots of drunks etc) shoebox float for his 4th grade class.  It had to be about a famous Texan.  He picked Claire Chennault.  I didn't even know he was from Texas.  So we made a nice little float in Chennault's honor.  I happend to have Academy's 72nd P-40B in AVG markings.  It is a little turd of a kit, but we knocked it out in a day and a half.  We mounted it on the little plastic stand that comes with the Tamiya f-51d on top of the box.  I'll take a picture of it too.  He got an "A".  Building models finally pays off!  Sadly, I think it is the first build I've finished this year!

Cheers,

Greg

- yat yas!

 

   

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Posted by p38jl on Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:38 PM

Yes whao !! sweet !

 

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Posted by razordws on Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:07 PM

Bow DownBow DownBow Down  Please tell me you did that with a hairy stick!!!

Dave

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:03 PM

whoa...double post! Surprise

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Now that I'm here, where am I??

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:03 PM

whoa...squiggles Surprise

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Now that I'm here, where am I??

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:28 PM

Gamera,Hercmech thanks

thanks Dave,the mottle looks spot on great job. I feel your pain just got done with a major pita myself

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Posted by Hercmech on Saturday, April 16, 2011 5:28 PM

Razor,

Love the mottle bet that was a huge pain in the Censored


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Posted by razordws on Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:08 PM

Trey, the splinter looks great.  Can't wait to see your squiggles.  Propeller

Speaking of hand cramps.  Got the spots on my 234. 

Dave

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Posted by Hercmech on Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AM

Trey,

Looking good!


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Posted by Gamera on Friday, April 15, 2011 8:45 AM

NFN: Thanks!!! Will give it a try, sounds alot easier than shaving rivets off another kit and trying to glue them on the model. Bow Down

Trey: Nice sharp line on the splinter camo, good stuff man.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:21 PM

The splinter is done next will be the dreaded squiggles in rlm79 not looking forward to it but its gotta be done.

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Posted by Night Fighter Nut on Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:19 PM

Don't worry about the rivets.  You can go ahead and sand them off to match the rest of your plane if you wish.  I made the rivets on my plane with a sharp needle or pin.  The kind that has the little color ball on the back end.  To put the rivets in a straight line, use a good 1/4" vinyl tape.  If you can't find any, electical tape would work and you might be able to cut it while it's still on the roll.  Using one edge of the tape, create a straight line between the two points you want to put rivets on.  The rivets tend to be about 1/16' apart but you can measure the distance before you sand them off.  Then stick the point into the plane using the edge of the tape as your guide.  Make a couple circular motions and move on to the next spot.  Don't worry if they are not absolutely perfect.  Rosie the Riveter wasn't perfect either and makes it a little more authentic looking.  Should you make a hole where you didn't want one, go over it with your finger nail and it will close it up.   You can experiment with this on the inside of a wing or some odd piece where it won't show if you want to practice.  Hope that helps.  :) 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:20 AM

Thanks NFN, your Widow looked so fantastic and I think mine will look ok if you don't look too closely.

I've been doing something sorta simular using the tape but with Mr. Surfacer. I'm lost on replacing the rivets though. I guess I could shave some off another kit and glue them to the Widow but I always seem to have problems getting them straight and aligned correctly.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Night Fighter Nut on Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:55 AM

Perhaps I can help you.  I've built this kit three times already and know a few tricks to get around the sticky parts.  One way I've found to replace the raised lines is with masking tape and elmers glue.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:50 AM

Sorry to whine but yes fit in some places is good on others not so great. And though I've put tape over details and used other tricks I've still sanded away a lot of raised detail while working on the seams. I'm not one of the people who are anal about recessed panel lines but gee if you sand the reccessed ones away it's easy to replace them with by scoring with a number 11 blade. I've tried replacing raised panel lines a number of ways but still haven't found anything I'm really happy with.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:25 PM

Thanks Gamera,sorry to hear the Widows giving you problems is it the fit?

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:21 AM

Great stuff Trey, really cool idea to use a marker for the panel lines.

Not much progress to report concerning the P-61. I hate to admit Herr Field Marshall was right... I HATE THIS KIT................

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:28 PM

a little more progress

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Monday, April 11, 2011 7:58 PM

Thanks Hercmech, the kit came with markings for the D-5 of Udel or the D-8 night version with the flame hiders being the only real 'add-on' do'nt know how accurate it really is but for me it will do fine. I got the raised lines sanded off and scripted the panel lines back with a fine sharpe

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