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Weathering GB - 2/1/2011 - 1/31/2012

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:23 AM

ruddratt

Pepper, that rail really brought back a lot of memories from my many past trips to Englishtown NJ and the old National Speedway on Long Island NY. Great stuff! Who's car is that? 

From back 'in the days', that car is the famous Greer, Black and Prudhomme (The Snake) rail ... it had a win-loss record of 234 - 7, and  though they never won a national title with it, they terrorized the match race circuit around the country ... it ran, as you see it, for just 18 months and was retired ....

Interesting note - it was stored and some folks, a few years back, acquired and refurbished it and run it at the Nostalgia Drags at Bakersfield every year, where it is still a monster !! ...

I saw it run all over So. California in its heyday ... witnessed the very first sub 8 second e.t. and over 200 mph run made by anyone, ever, at the old San Gabriel drag srip one summer night ... this, in  the days before the cars became waaaay long and computerized as they are now ... the guys would tow it to the strip behind a '59 Ford Ranchero - none of those huge Kenworth transporter trucks you see now ...ah, such memories !! ...

Weathering is going to be moderate as they kept the car squeaky clean... just gonna show it as it would have looked at the end of a hard nights work ...

I'm also going to post up here in a day or so, a weathered reefer ... I believe I showed a clean one not too long ago ... I've got one finished and am working on another for which I'll do WIP photos to show how I get my results ...

pepper

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 PM

Man you fellas have been a busy bunch!

Terry, that rust effect is mind blowing! Never seen anything like it. Yes

Tiger, it just keeps getting better & better! Excellent progress on your Stug. Can't wait to see it weathered!

Pepper, that rail really brought back a lot of memories from my many past trips to Englishtown NJ and the old National Speedway on Long Island NY. Great stuff! Who's car is that?

Jbrady, neat lookin' Wildcat! Definitely looking forward to seeing more progress pics of 'er! Yes

Oddmanrush, that is one of the most unique builds and interesting concepts & approaches I've seen in a long time. That's about as weathered as they get. Great work!

Doogs, exhausts mounted from the inside always give me fits. I think that color looks fine, but would consider adding some black, sooty effects to it here & there.

 

The fuselage has been buttoned up on the Pfalz and the lower wing & horizontal tailplane have been attached. Got a few seams to clean up, then it's time to add the gear struts, vertical tailplane, and wing & interplane struts before she gets some paint.

I've decided on a different scheme for her (I've seen two threads related to this kit and both are of the scheme I origionally chose), so I figure I'll take 'er in a slightly different direction - not to worry, it's still an awesome paint scheme - very colorful. I'll post some pics of it soon.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:58 PM

jbrady

I think Doogs said to go ahead when we want. I know I've seen quite a few WIP post here.

OK-dokey, artichokey ... I'll post some photos tomorrow ...

pepper

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 6:13 PM

Yeah, I even finished one already! Big Smile

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by jbrady on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:33 PM

I think Doogs said to go ahead when we want. I know I've seen quite a few WIP post here.

   

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Posted by pepper kay on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:02 PM

Are we weathering now or s'posed to wait until 2/1/11 ?? ...

Thanks,

pepper

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Posted by Echo139er on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:59 PM

I need to pull out of this GB. I no longer have the ship that was slated for this build.  The badge will be removed as soon as I can get to it.  

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Posted by jbrady on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:33 PM

Okay... so I don't have complete control of my airbrush Now I got to figure out how to fix it.

   

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Posted by jbrady on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:05 PM

Paint on the Wildcat

Binginning the weathering... The top side color is intermediate blue with a bit of neutral grey damn flash washes everything out

   

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:47 PM

Hi Guys:

In addition to airplanes and trains, I also build the occassional dragster ... I've attached two photos of one I finished this morning ...

I'll be 'weathering' the engine and front wheels to start with, then go through my photo collection for pictures of the Real McCoy, so that I can weather the model to look like the real deal after a hard day at the drag strip ... of course, no weathering photos until 2/1/11, official start of the GB Big Smile ...

Any questions or comments, please feel free ...

pepper

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:05 PM

DoogsATX

oddmanrush - the Butchered Bird is looking awesome! What are these plastic cards? I'm accustomed to playing cards being cardboard. Are you going to be adding anything to represent the shredded cloth of the control surfaces?

Wish I had anything to report on the 109, but sick kiddos kept me out of the garage last night, and possibly tonight as well. Boo.

Thanks Doogs! I shouldn't say they are 100% plastic because they do absorb liquid to a certain degree but they are more or less a composite and are more durable than the older style paper or cardboard cards mainly because I think they have a decent laminate over the top. They bend nicely, cut cleanly, and glue perfectly, even with just liquid glue. Also, a good substitute for styrene are old gift cards which I've used here to simulate some ribbing that you can see through the hole in the wing. I'm almost as cheap as Hans von Hammer.....

Any how, I plan on putting some tissue paper on the control surfaces, not a lot, but it'll be there for sure.

Jon

My Blog: The Combat Workshop 

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:42 AM

DoogsATX
 

Hey Doogs, how do you dent plastic?

On model railroad cars, I use a flat blade screwdriver, with the end heated up with a Bic lighter ... when hot (warm) enough, I press the blade onto the car body where I want the dent ...

Another way is to thin the surface (where you want the dent) with a roundy-type thingie from Dremel - it looks like a ball with grit on it ... at low speed with my Dremel, I  push down against the car body until I thin out the area ... then, I can push the dent in with the back end (bottom) of my X-acto knife handle ...

Food for thought,

pepper

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:35 AM

oddmanrush - the Butchered Bird is looking awesome! What are these plastic cards? I'm accustomed to playing cards being cardboard. Are you going to be adding anything to represent the shredded cloth of the control surfaces?

Wish I had anything to report on the 109, but sick kiddos kept me out of the garage last night, and possibly tonight as well. Boo.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:24 AM

Casper the Chihuahua

 

 DoogsATX:

 

 

Also been trying my hand at creating dents. First several attempts (on a broken P-38) were horrid. But I started to get the hang of it...actually relatively happy with the dent on the left side of the spare E-4 spinner:

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy86/doogsatx/Eduard%20Bf-109E-7%20Trop/a61614d7.jpg

 

 

Hey Doogs, how do you dent plastic?

Cheers

Dremel with a high-speed ball cutter thing. Used the lowest speed and just kind of "skipped" it off the surface. Then went back and sanded. It's too big for scale, but I've had trouble recreating the effect with smaller ball heads. Think I may save the attempt for something that's not a $50+ 1/32 kit. Maybe the ICM Spitfire VIII I scored off eBay for $5...I'm going to be doing it as a heavily weathered RAAF bird, so some dings wouldn't be out of the question...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:41 AM

Lot of good progress on this thread, its good to see GB's moving at a good pace. I've done a little more work on the Butchered Bird.

I scratch built the control surfaces using plastic card. Not like styrene but actual playing cards from a deck that I don't use. Its an almost unlimited supply of thin plastic that is great for doing work just like this. I left the aileron off the port side wing and I also left off the elevator on the port side stabilizer just to break up the look of it and also because it was tedious work. I also eliminated the glass canopy and scratched the frame using the same material. Difficult to see but will be visible in the final pics. 

Comments and criticism is welcome!

Jon

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:41 AM

DoogsATX

 

Also been trying my hand at creating dents. First several attempts (on a broken P-38) were horrid. But I started to get the hang of it...actually relatively happy with the dent on the left side of the spare E-4 spinner:

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy86/doogsatx/Eduard%20Bf-109E-7%20Trop/a61614d7.jpg

Hey Doogs, how do you dent plastic?

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by jbrady on Monday, January 24, 2011 7:10 PM

Doogs: Welcome back. I'm going to try the dark grey suggestion for the preshading. Had a bit of a set back though. I can't keep the youngest cat out of my work area. I find her in there all the time. Tonight I went to answer the door and left an open bottle of gap filling glue next to the model. When I came back she was sitting next to the model and the glue was laying on its side on the left wing of the model... going to cost me some rivet detail... I think, at this point, I prefer the mice.

   

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Monday, January 24, 2011 4:38 PM

Doogs,

Progress looks great, i agree the exhaust looks a bit too browned, just didn't fit the theater it was in.

Ill have more prgress tonight on both the Jeep and the StuG and possibly the Panzer as I am stuck home with no car due to some jerk slashing all 4 of my tires...

 

Anywho more to come!

On the bench:

1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, January 24, 2011 3:43 PM

Okay, back from Vegas and playing catchup!

All builds have been updated in the roster - this is one kick*** group we've got going here!

Terry - the LWS is looking pretty sick! Love the rust against the white. Can't wait to see the outside get the same amount of attention!

Tiger - the hand tools, MG, etc are coming along really well! I'm the "painting tools and stowage" stage myself with the Sherman.

I managed to get in a bit of bench time last night. Primed some select areas of the 109 - exhausts, bodywork immediately around exhausts, plus the spinner, resin wheels, etc. 

I typically prefer to paint exhausts off the plane and install them after closer to the end of the build, but this kit requires the exhausts be installed from the inside, so I have to paint them and the surrounding areas prior to gluing them in. Hence the priming.

I'm planning to paint them tonight. Been having a bit of a mental debate about what to go with. I typically reach for Alclad Exhaust Manifold:

But it seems a bit too browned for the 109E exhaust images I've got (not to mention the dry desert climate the E-7 Trop operated in). I'm thinking I might use Alclad Steel instead - which came out way darker than I expected the last time I used it (on the exhaust plating of an La-5), but looks like a good match for the 109 exhausts...

 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by personman906 on Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:27 PM

I'll put in a Revell of Germany 1/35 Panzerhaubitze Pzh-2000, a Tamiya 1/35 Chieftain Mk5, and a Tamiya 1/35 SU-122.

In Soviet Russia, MODEL BUILD YOU!

Still Building: Dragon 1/144 HH-60H

Ready for First Coat: Academy 1/35 MH-60G, Tamiya 1/35 Chieftain Mk5, Trumpeter 1/35 KSK Commandos

Finishing Touches: Revell 1/35 PzH-2000, Dragon 1/144 SH-60F, Revell 1/48 F-15E

 

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Sunday, January 23, 2011 3:45 AM

Looking great terry!

I have been wanting to do one of those, so it will be nice to see it finished! BTW that rust you posted is freaking insane! I tried to follow the links to the tutorial but it only brought me to the main forum page and i don't speak Polish =(

Anyho i got a basecoat down on the StuG and did painted the tools some:







Enjoy =D

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1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:29 PM

Well I've been browsing the Gb and I must say I am impressed with the progress being made so far.

Well my subject is the German LWS, Landes Wasser Schlepper, an amphibious vehicle designed in the 30's and unarmoured.

I remember this subject first being released in the 1990's as a resin kit. It's a subject I have always wanted to build ever since I first seen it in the encylopedia of german armour.

When Hobby Boss brought out their offering as  a plastic kit I still did not jump as it was very expensive for a plastic kit about €50 over here, I ended up getting one for about €20 or €30 can't remember exactly how much.

I have always been a fan of Tony Greenland's work, since the early to mid eighties I always considered his German models the best and always tried to copy his style. THe eighties also gave us Verlinden with the very stylistic drybrushing and heavy washes.

The 1990's and 00's gave us MIG, Phil Stuncinkas as just two names who shine in my opinion but thats just my opinion.

For this build I will try using my own take on various painting techniques, drybrushing washes pigments pastels. Chipping basically I want to try and marry old and new to my own personal taste.

The books I'm working from are as follows.

Tony Greenlands masterclass

Migs own FAQ

And this one by Games workshop written by Phil Stutcinkas, this is by far the best Modelling manual I have ever seen.

 

Now for my LWS progress.

THe kit built into sub-assemblies.

Sprayed from a rattle can for convenience.

I was going to paint the floor black or something lighter when I found a great Gamesworkshop colour graniite in their base colour set, its dark enough to imitate black but light enough to be easy to work with. This is it with a Tamiya flat earth wash.

As the vehicle I am modelling ended up in north africa and is probably the one that was captured by the British and brought to england then I believe I have a lot of leeway to "GO NUTS" weathering.

Well I started with a Vallejo light rust from the Panzer aces range.

THe Dash

In this image it can be seen where I have started to rust up the floor, light rust and dark brown, by not using Black as a base colour has made this easier, since this shot I have added a flesh wash and got a lot more into the weathering.

In this shot I wanted to break up the openess of the side so I painted scratches to look like a table or bench had been removed and the walls paint got damaged.

THanks for dropping by and all comments are welcome.

Terry.

 

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:57 PM

Just thought that I'd get this one attached before I post.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/message/1295198866/Rust+on+the+exhaust+in+the+scale+1-15

I think that is the bees knees.

Terry.

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Saturday, January 22, 2011 2:19 PM

ruddratt

 oddmanrush:

Jbrady, you shouldn't be intimidated with that work! Looks great to me!

 

Ditto that. That's some excellent work you're doing. Yes Definitely looking forward to the rest of your build!

 

Tiger, I'm doing my best just to keep up with ya, especially after seeing your updates. I took the liberty of showing my wife this thread, and that jeep of yours really caught her eye, and now she wants one - no kiddin'! Closest thing I have in my stash is a Dragon 1/35 Kubelwagon, and I doubt on my best day I could come up with results anywhere's near what you're churning out.

Steve, very nice work! I like Doogs suggestion about darkening some areas for a bit more contrast. It would really make the effect pop! Question about those pigments - I saw where you wrote that you plan on sealing them with a flat. I know that when I do any kind of weathering with pastels (I rub 'em on a piece of sandpaper and use the dust) that a flat coat will deminish the effect somewhat. Do these pigments you're using react the same way or do they stand up better to clear coats?

Doogs, I'm happy that you were able to solve the fit issue with your Emil (and I really did get a chuckle out of your "solution" Wink )

ruddratt

I've never worked with the MIG pigments before so I don't know what a coat of clear flat (laquer or acrylic) will do to them.  I have the MIG DVD on working with pigments so I'll watch that before using anything over them.  I'll keep everyone posted as to the results.  Thanks!

Steve

 

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, January 21, 2011 1:15 PM

vetteman42

Pepper I can see the grimy black but what are the other colors ? I am terrible at weathering and am looking for ways to improve what I do. My LHS has railroad powders but I havent looked at them.................yet Big Smile

The black is called 'Grimy Black' ...Wink ... the yellowish is called 'Dirty Yellow' ... it's very good for armor projects or sand/dust, etc. ...the 3rd is called 'Light Rust' ...

You can ge them individually or in various 'sets' ...

As I said, I use these all the time on model railroad engines and cars (as well as all the other colors I have), but the Sea Fury was the first airplane ... I'm thinking now that the cold temps and high humidity caused the problem with the SF because I've never had the problem with my railroad ... when it warms a bunch, I'll shoot my 'test' P-47 to see if higher temps will help ...

pepper

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, January 21, 2011 1:03 PM

Pepper I can see the grimy black but what are the other colors ? I am terrible at weathering and am looking for ways to improve what I do. My LHS has railroad powders but I havent looked at them.................yet Big Smile

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, January 21, 2011 11:05 AM

Hi All:

Thought I'd share a photo with y'all ...

These are model railroading weathering poweders ... I buy them for $2.00 each and these are the colors I use the most, though there are probably a dozen or so available ...

The paint bottle is in the picture only  to provide scale for the powder containers ... the makeup brush was bought at the local drug store - the fan brush at Hobby Lobby (artsy and craftsy store) and the scrub brush is just an old, worn out brush that I've clipped down to about an 1/8th of an inch ...

The uses are self-explanatory ... one thing to mention though is I've had bad luck applying the powders and then spraying a coat of Dullcote over them ... they tend to ball up and change their appearance ...

I did a beautiful job on the exhaust and gun port stains on a Sea Fury, but when i sprayed on the flat coat, all the powders balled up and now the bird looks like it has polka dots on it :-) ...

However, the day I did that, the humidty was very high and the temps were very low, so being a 'one time event', I don't know if I'll repeat those results the next time I try ... since doing the Sea Fury, I've done a few other models, but have not sprayed the flat coat on to finish ...

I've my 'test mule' (a 1/32 Revell P-47D) that I experiment with mixes, tints, inks, washes and whatnot on and I'll try powdering it up, then flat coating it ... results to follow ...

pepper

          

 

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Friday, January 21, 2011 9:32 AM

Mike,

thanks for the kind words :) I honestly have surprised myself with this little jeep, considering how small it is...lol  Its stilling on my desk atm and it looks so nice compared to the unpainted tanks sitting near it.

Tell ya what send me that kubel (always wanted to build one) and ill do it up and you can surprise your wife with it...lol!

Also i would not worry about your results man, your paintwork/build quality is top notch I am sure you could easily surpass me in detail =D

Doogs , 

I was thinking that same thing, would make more sense. Ill fidget with it some today after i get back from my drug test for work (initial pre employment one not one because i was dumb ..lol)

Jon, 

Thant little pink plane has had quite the torrid past! I am looking forward to seeing how she is finally remembered! 

On the bench:

1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:36 PM

oddmanrush

Jbrady, you shouldn't be intimidated with that work! Looks great to me!

Ditto that. That's some excellent work you're doing. Yes Definitely looking forward to the rest of your build!

 

Tiger, I'm doing my best just to keep up with ya, especially after seeing your updates. I took the liberty of showing my wife this thread, and that jeep of yours really caught her eye, and now she wants one - no kiddin'! Closest thing I have in my stash is a Dragon 1/35 Kubelwagon, and I doubt on my best day I could come up with results anywhere's near what you're churning out.

Steve, very nice work! I like Doogs suggestion about darkening some areas for a bit more contrast. It would really make the effect pop! Question about those pigments - I saw where you wrote that you plan on sealing them with a flat. I know that when I do any kind of weathering with pastels (I rub 'em on a piece of sandpaper and use the dust) that a flat coat will deminish the effect somewhat. Do these pigments you're using react the same way or do they stand up better to clear coats?

Doogs, I'm happy that you were able to solve the fit issue with your Emil (and I really did get a chuckle out of your "solution" Wink )

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by jbrady on Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:37 PM

Steve that is a great picture. Did you notice that the blue on the wing wraps around to the underside? I've never seen that before.

   

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