The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011

Bockscar

WISO!

Who's the midget?

BOSS!!

Don't know who he is or why his arms are sticking out of his head!

ROGER THAT!

What the ....?

My Phantom...

He still scares the ladies......

WISO!

Who's the midget?

BOSS!!

Don't know who he is or why his arms are sticking out of his head!

ROGER THAT!

Bockscar

 

RotorHead10:

 

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Fightin' Irish! Looks Fab!!!

 

PHIGHTIN' IRISH, LOOKS PHAB!!!!

Uhhh, are you a Pholger's Phan?...lol...

RH10 - Looking good! Woo-hoo, sweet one! Shall I post this image to the Honour Wall, or wait for your new set?

Completion number nine I believe!

Cheers, M/TB379

RotorHead10

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Sparrowhyperion

Budgetary constraints only permit one at a time here.  When I was a kid, my parents were kind of cheapskates about my hobby.  Sometimes I had to save for weeks for one kit.  I must have mowed about a thousand yards ever summer, and shoveled just as many driveways in the winter.  I didn't get any allowance until I was 13; And then it was only $0.50 a week.  I wish I still had all of my old kits.

Rich

 

 

Bockscar:

 

 

Sparrowhyperion:

 

It looks like a fun kit.  I'm torn on whether to build it, or just keep it in the stack.  Does anyone know if anyone still makes that detail kit for it since KMC is now defunct?

Rich

 

Rich:

 

My old saw, learned from my old LHS; 'one to build, one to keep, and one to trade,'  or as would reply, 'eat your cake and have another two.....'...runnin' outa storage space though.....

 

 

Of course as I've mentioned, may dad, God bless him, would throw my kits away if he found them out of place, i.e, anywhere except the top of our chest of drawers. He'ld even trash stuff that I was building, because "....you didn't put it away...."....lol....oh well, he thought ".....you'll appreciate this when you're older...."....lol.....one day he threw away an 8" telescopic mirror i was grinding.....uh......I left the building permanently.....he didn't like that, because he didn't like losing the rent.....lol......I started working early.....life lessons. 

Finally got it done....1/72nd Accurate Minatures.  Gotta love the Marines, Gotta love VFMA-333.  Go Shamrocks!  More pics to follow soon.  No offense...have yet to see a USMC F-4 yet. What giv es!?

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Budgetary constraints only permit one at a time here.  When I was a kid, my parents were kind of cheapskates about my hobby.  Sometimes I had to save for weeks for one kit.  I must have mowed about a thousand yards ever summer, and shoveled just as many driveways in the winter.  I didn't get any allowance until I was 13; And then it was only $0.50 a week.  I wish I still had all of my old kits.

Rich

Bockscar

 

Sparrowhyperion:

 

It looks like a fun kit.  I'm torn on whether to build it, or just keep it in the stack.  Does anyone know if anyone still makes that detail kit for it since KMC is now defunct?

Rich

 

Rich:

 

My old saw, learned from my old LHS; 'one to build, one to keep, and one to trade,'  or as would reply, 'eat your cake and have another two.....'...runnin' outa storage space though.....

I should have said, Keep your fingers crossed Ladies and Gents, another exciting episode tomorrow, Same Geasel Time, Same Geasel Channel!

Here's an update on the scratch monster:

The Valient Vac-Pac Matching Donor:

The working side, formerly a paint jig for a BUFF:

The pattern and roughed in lumber:

That little pencil mark is apex of the most critical curve within the duct, so pattern, lumber, and duct all line up and the curve is snug, well, it may not look snug yet.....

But look, the curves are fairly close, I spent about 3 months looking for the "Donor Match":

Last look before final trimming:

So now I gently trim the edges of the lumber and start persuading it to pretend it's a duct.

I'm hoping to have the ducts roughed in and the lumber trimmed for the medial bulkeads as well by tomorrow Sunday. The pace of work is meteoric, I know.

Shish, when I build my Tamiya, I'm not even going to sand off all of the extra glacis armour like Berny did, or was that Berny???

Keep your fingers crossed Gents, another exciting episode tomorrow, Same Geasel Time, Same Geasel Channel!

Sparrowhyperion

It looks like a fun kit.  I'm torn on whether to build it, or just keep it in the stack.  Does anyone know if anyone still makes that detail kit for it since KMC is now defunct?

Rich

My old saw, learned from my old LHS; 'one to build, one to keep, and one to trade,'  or as would reply, 'eat your cake and have another two.....'...runnin' outa storage space though.....

It looks like a fun kit.  I'm torn on whether to build it, or just keep it in the stack.  Does anyone know if anyone still makes that detail kit for it since KMC is now defunct?

Rich

I remember when the Monogram black bunny came out. There was a big complaint that the "star" markings on the outer wings and the fuselage should have been outlined in red, not silver. My dad built it straight up when it came out; he still has it on the shelf. It's a beautiful bird.

Glenn

Bockscar

DOG!!!!!

or

Well, might as Well

Well...I'm pushing 60, and I still can't put my stuff up....lol.....

That's why I build 'in-flight', i can always hang 'em......

By the way, one should always have more kits than time, so you get full marks for getting your daughter started out on the right footing.

Rich and Marissa -- That'd be the same kit, I remember it building very nicely indeed. Couple of tips -- the prominent hydraulic pitch jacks top and bottom of the elevator hinges on the real thing are not there, they can be cut simply from plasticard and glued straight on. The one-piece canopy has the bracing struts molded in, and unless anybody makes a mask set for this kit, black strip decals are the best option.

Cheers, M/TB379

Sparrowhyperion

It was the F4-J.  Here's the actual kit.

 

 

Bockscar:

 

 

 

Yes Ken, truer spokes have never been wheeled...uh...a little cyclist humour there....

 

I agree with Rich, the old stuff really attracts a premium, mea culpa, i paid a small fortune for the really old stuff, and no, I can't find it for sale anymore.

As we say """...We Are Rebuilding Our Youth...One Kit At A Time...Copyright © 2008 Ovic GS""" Heh Heh.....

Yeah, Deborah and Rich are definitely on the right path helping Marissa get started on the right foot.

Rich, is that an F-4 BA, or another?

 

 

 

okay if that kit is already sitting on your deck, we need to talk, my BUFF from Bu$$ieVille won't be here for another 2 months. We elect governments before I get delivery from Bu$$ieVille.

Nice score Rich, i may have to work on a 1/48 subroutine for F-4's. i've got one Hasegawa, and one Fujimi.....

Marissa has a 1/32 X1 waiting on the shelf.  When we get someplace big enough, I will let her build it.

Rich

Thunderbolt379

The X-1? I'd have to scan some old prints, I built it for an Aussie model mag back in the 90s...

Well, the Germans had the A-4 (?) and A-9 piloted versions in development, and the beefed-up A-10 booster stage underway as well (meant to lob a warhead at New York), they would have had the hardware to get close. Doubtful in the timeframe, but it's always fun to speculate...

M/TB379

It was the F4-J.  Here's the actual kit.

Bockscar

 

 

Yes Ken, truer spokes have never been wheeled...uh...a little cyclist humour there....

 

I agree with Rich, the old stuff really attracts a premium, mea culpa, i paid a small fortune for the really old stuff, and no, I can't find it for sale anymore.

As we say """...We Are Rebuilding Our Youth...One Kit At A Time...Copyright © 2008 Ovic GS""" Heh Heh.....

Yeah, Deborah and Rich are definitely on the right path helping Marissa get started on the right foot.

Rich, is that an F-4 BA, or another?

 

The X-1? I'd have to scan some old prints, I built it for an Aussie model mag back in the 90s...

Well, the Germans had the A-4 (?) and A-9 piloted versions in development, and the beefed-up A-10 booster stage underway as well (meant to lob a warhead at New York), they would have had the hardware to get close. Doubtful in the timeframe, but it's always fun to speculate...

M/TB379

uhhhh....not so fast F-4 Man.......I want pics of that build......cough sputter.....he's lucky he got a broomstick handle.....in a B-29.....oh yeah, standard issue.......no doubt.......stickyBB doors.....needed that around for sure.....

Hey, that's and interesting thought, wot, they put someone on the end of a V-2? Did WernerVB forget he did that? maybe he was kinda' handy too....

Sparrowhyperion

Yeh I have noticed some of the new kit prices coming down a bit and I have also noticed that it's getting a lot more competitive on auctions.  More people seem to be wanting the older kits.  Oh and thanks for reminding me that I need to get her started on her Blue Angel this weekend.

 

Rich

 

 

Son Of Medicine Man:

 

 

 

 

Yep, I totally agree with you Dom.  I have made some good scores on ebay, and paid way too much on others.  I figure it comes out about even.

I think that maybe our hobby has turned the corner and is starting to pick up again.  I mean, I just bought the brand new 1/32 F-84E that Hobby Boss just put out.  And there is already some aftermarket parts for it!  And look at Sprue Brothers, their business has increased enough that they had to move into a new building.

My hat is off to those of you who have been in the hobby for the long haul.  And kudos to Rich for getting his daughter enthusiastic enough to participate.  What a great hobby that parents can enjoy along with their children!

Ken

 

 

I agree with Rich, the old stuff really attracts a premium, mea culpa, i paid a small fortune for the really old stuff, and no, I can't find it for sale anymore.

As we say """...We Are Rebuilding Our Youth...One Kit At A Time...Copyright © 2008 Ovic GS""" Heh Heh.....

Yeah, Deborah and Rich are definitely on the right path helping Marissa get started on the right foot.

Rich, is that an F-4 BA, or another?

Oh, he was hammered, for sure, which contributed to the fall and gave us the historic business about the length of brush shank next to him in the cockpit. I remember carefully painting it in the Revell 1:32 and laying it in there, I think it's visible through the canopy...

As for the rest, who knows? The 163 was a candidate, for sure, and theres endless speculation and fun to be had with that. Personally I think the Germans probably put a man in space in April '45... (cough, splutter, gag...)

Now, back to the Phantoms...

M/TB379

DOGFIGHT!

Lol.....yeah, and Chuck admits he got blasted on the night before his record breaker....lol...and broke a rib falling off his horse...from that bar...in nowhere....X Nihilo....Vill.....lol...

For sure, who really knows, the Bell .50 Cal did it in level flight.....but some claim the F-86 was still the very first...i would be honoured just to sweep the bar room floor after that 'discussion'...lol

Yeah, Chuck was handy with a handy one himself......lol.....some guy in an ME 262, or a 163 maybe beat them all, growing flowers these days....

I agree, Bootes probably had his crew out after Chuck, but who knows for sure?

And not to confuse you with a Say-Gu-Way, but look at what happened to Scott Crossfield, and his program, the media gave the Ruskies credit for the first man in space, Ka Putnik...lol.....love doing that....and everyone bent over to kiss the linoleum as though that was true....

Yeh I have noticed some of the new kit prices coming down a bit and I have also noticed that it's getting a lot more competitive on auctions.  More people seem to be wanting the older kits.  Oh and thanks for reminding me that I need to get her started on her Blue Angel this weekend.

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

 

 

 

Yep, I totally agree with you Dom.  I have made some good scores on ebay, and paid way too much on others.  I figure it comes out about even.

I think that maybe our hobby has turned the corner and is starting to pick up again.  I mean, I just bought the brand new 1/32 F-84E that Hobby Boss just put out.  And there is already some aftermarket parts for it!  And look at Sprue Brothers, their business has increased enough that they had to move into a new building.

My hat is off to those of you who have been in the hobby for the long haul.  And kudos to Rich for getting his daughter enthusiastic enough to participate.  What a great hobby that parents can enjoy along with their children!

Ken

Bockscar

Sparrowhyperion:

I've been trying to get my hands on a 1/32 Phantom for years.  I always get sniped by someone with more cash to spend on eBay.  lol  I just don't want to get stuck with the RF4E 1/32 R/M  I hate the nose shape on the recon birds.  And those are the only ones that stay in my range.

 

 

Bockscar:

 

Yeah, Oh Yeah!?!

I was just going through an old Monogram stash and found a load-out for a 1/48 Monogram Navy F-4B, and it has this 'super squirt-gun' looking package attached to a pylon. Hmmm....and that early ECM pod Berny showed us, where'd that come from?

Uhhhh......sstillll......need......1/48......Monogram.......F-4.......

Oh well, those 3 Revell 1/32 are about all I can deal with these days, but who knows, Dayton had tons of stuff I thought was oughta' print!

So, soon I'm going to develop the coconuts to cut the plastic for those intakes........maybe soon......

 

 

 

I hear you on that, I would have built my current scratch monster with its recon nose and Immelmann graphics, but the decals were oxidized, and the kit very warped.....should'a moved on...lol....

I tried on Ebay, but when you consider that it is so difficult to get a kit up here form th US with anyhing less than a 40-90% premium on cash with shipping, and 300% premium on shipping time, it makes sense to buy locally if available.

That means I suffered about 80 bucks for the 1/32 kits locally, and they are no longer available.

I scored the Tamiya about 3 years ago for $40, I use it as a reference to build my scratch monster.

Here's the thing, I've either paid way below market for kits from collections, or way above market for stuff I couldn't find anywhere else when the bug hit at the time.

I think it has evened out....but...I'm a master at fooling myself these days.......

Yep, I totally agree with you Dom.  I have made some good scores on ebay, and paid way too much on others.  I figure it comes out about even.

I think that maybe our hobby has turned the corner and is starting to pick up again.  I mean, I just bought the brand new 1/32 F-84E that Hobby Boss just put out.  And there is already some aftermarket parts for it!  And look at Sprue Brothers, their business has increased enough that they had to move into a new building.

My hat is off to those of you who have been in the hobby for the long haul.  And kudos to Rich for getting his daughter enthusiastic enough to participate.  What a great hobby that parents can enjoy along with their children!

Ken

Bockscar

You already know....lol.....I remember an interview with a guy named 'Boots' Blesse?, him and his team would break the sound barrier in F-86's, full vertical dive, years before Yeager ever stepped into his X Bullet.....

Yo Bocks -- something about that sounded a mile off to me so I looked it up, and somebody is selling high-grade snake oil. The XP-86, flown by George Welch, made its first highly cautious flight at Muroc on October 1st 1947, and Yeager broke the sound barrier in the X-1 precisely fourteen days later. Somebody was entertaining a bar crowd with tall stories, methinks...

M/TB379

Sparrowhyperion

I've been trying to get my hands on a 1/32 Phantom for years.  I always get sniped by someone with more cash to spend on eBay.  lol  I just don't want to get stuck with the RF4E 1/32 R/M  I hate the nose shape on the recon birds.  And those are the only ones that stay in my range.

 

 

Bockscar:

 

Yeah, Oh Yeah!?!

I was just going through an old Monogram stash and found a load-out for a 1/48 Monogram Navy F-4B, and it has this 'super squirt-gun' looking package attached to a pylon. Hmmm....and that early ECM pod Berny showed us, where'd that come from?

Uhhhh......sstillll......need......1/48......Monogram.......F-4.......

Oh well, those 3 Revell 1/32 are about all I can deal with these days, but who knows, Dayton had tons of stuff I thought was oughta' print!

So, soon I'm going to develop the coconuts to cut the plastic for those intakes........maybe soon......

 

 

I hear you on that, I would have built my current scratch monster with its recon nose and Immelmann graphics, but the decals were oxidized, and the kit very warped.....should'a moved on...lol....

I tried on Ebay, but when you consider that it is so difficult to get a kit up here form th US with anyhing less than a 40-90% premium on cash with shipping, and 300% premium on shipping time, it makes sense to buy locally if available.

That means I suffered about 80 bucks for the 1/32 kits locally, and they are no longer available.

I scored the Tamiya about 3 years ago for $40, I use it as a reference to build my scratch monster.

Here's the thing, I've either paid way below market for kits from collections, or way above market for stuff I couldn't find anywhere else when the bug hit at the time.

I think it has evened out....but...I'm a master at fooling myself these days.......

I've been trying to get my hands on a 1/32 Phantom for years.  I always get sniped by someone with more cash to spend on eBay.  lol  I just don't want to get stuck with the RF4E 1/32 R/M  I hate the nose shape on the recon birds.  And those are the only ones that stay in my range.

Bockscar

Yeah, Oh Yeah!?!

I was just going through an old Monogram stash and found a load-out for a 1/48 Monogram Navy F-4B, and it has this 'super squirt-gun' looking package attached to a pylon. Hmmm....and that early ECM pod Berny showed us, where'd that come from?

Uhhhh......sstillll......need......1/48......Monogram.......F-4.......

Oh well, those 3 Revell 1/32 are about all I can deal with these days, but who knows, Dayton had tons of stuff I thought was oughta' print!

So, soon I'm going to develop the coconuts to cut the plastic for those intakes........maybe soon......