The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011

Ah, do I detect a chihuahua?

My pooch, "Zorro, The Destroyer of Civilization" yeah, he thinks he's Rottweiler...lol....I cal hi "Z Dog......"

He hasn't destroyed any F-4s yet, not bad,......actually....lol....

jimbot58

Well, I used one of my aquarium fishnets and what was revealed to me was:

1. I seriously need to clean in there more often!

2. I am still a big fuzzy guy who seems to shed more body hair than most house cats. (something a few female partners have found to be one of my least endearing qualities)

3. And sadly, the part is still very much on the MIA list!

I will borrow one from one of my other kits for now as I am so close to being done!

 

 

Sparrowhyperion:

 

Yeh, I can barely see 1/72 parts anymore, let alone build them. Sorry.  Use cheesecloth on the end of a good vacuum.  Much safer than mesh.

 

 

jimbot58:

 

 

 

 

I do appreciate your kind offer, but it is Hasegawa in 1/72 scale and I believe you are a builder of that 'other' scale? I will search a bit more and probably either scratch it or, for the time being, borrow it  from the "F" so I can get this build done. I have this idea about putting a mesh bag inside the vacuum nozzle.....

 

 

 

 

My best ever lost'n'found:

I dropped the tail-gun-pod assembly for a BUFF on the basement floor, about 9 years ago, please remind me if I'm lying again, I looked everywhere, rather obsessive about that, and over the next three years gave it up. Sold the house about 2006.

Was packing up the basement stuff, and finally got around to a stamped steel shelf stand, still have it, and there, two shelves up, in a nooked corner at the front of the unit, was the pod.

I didn't even know I could play basket ball! Little bastige bounced about 20 inches....prawley too buzzed on MEK to hear the final landing at the time.....

The upright angle iron is a "W" crosssection, so I couldn't see it. I spent more time suffering to search for that sucker than I did cutting the aluminum spars for the wings.

Surprise! I didn't know whether to throw a party or pull out the M-80's.....Glad I didn't drive the M80 highway, it's a nice chunk of plastic and it still hangs, unfinished, from my workroom ceiling.

Well, I used one of my aquarium fishnets and what was revealed to me was:

1. I seriously need to clean in there more often!

2. I am still a big fuzzy guy who seems to shed more body hair than most house cats. (something a few female partners have found to be one of my least endearing qualities)

3. And sadly, the part is still very much on the MIA list!

I will borrow one from one of my other kits for now as I am so close to being done!

Sparrowhyperion

Yeh, I can barely see 1/72 parts anymore, let alone build them. Sorry.  Use cheesecloth on the end of a good vacuum.  Much safer than mesh.

 

 

jimbot58:

 

 

 

 

I do appreciate your kind offer, but it is Hasegawa in 1/72 scale and I believe you are a builder of that 'other' scale? I will search a bit more and probably either scratch it or, for the time being, borrow it  from the "F" so I can get this build done. I have this idea about putting a mesh bag inside the vacuum nozzle.....

 

 

Yeh, I can barely see 1/72 parts anymore, let alone build them. Sorry.  Use cheesecloth on the end of a good vacuum.  Much safer than mesh.

jimbot58

 

 

 

I do appreciate your kind offer, but it is Hasegawa in 1/72 scale and I believe you are a builder of that 'other' scale? I will search a bit more and probably either scratch it or, for the time being, borrow it  from the "F" so I can get this build done. I have this idea about putting a mesh bag inside the vacuum nozzle.....

Sparrowhyperion

Jim  What kit brand and part number was it.  I have a bunch of non repairable F4s after the great soon to be demised cat incident, that are now spare parts kits; and I might have the part you need.

Rich

 

 

jimbot58:

 

Frustration!

Another encounter with the F#@*&g carpet monster  and it looks like he may have won this one! I was working on the canopies tonight and I was painting up and getting ready to mount the actuators. I was holding the front one with my fine tweezers, and went to do a trial fitting! It suddenly popped loose from my grip and, as if in slow motion, watched as it first hit my shirt, dropped down to then bounce off my left leg, and then downwards to the floor. A half hour laying on my belly with a flashlight did not restore the part to me! Curse you, Carpet Monster! and I know that it is in cahoots with the tweezers!

I'll get you both for this!

 

 

I do appreciate your kind offer, but it is Hasegawa in 1/72 scale and I believe you are a builder of that 'other' scale? I will search a bit more and probably either scratch it or, for the time being, borrow it  from the "F" so I can get this build done. I have this idea about putting a mesh bag inside the vacuum nozzle.....

jimbot58

Frustration!

Another encounter with the F#@*&g carpet monster  and it looks like he may have won this one! I was working on the canopies tonight and I was painting up and getting ready to mount the actuators. I was holding the front one with my fine tweezers, and went to do a trial fitting! It suddenly popped loose from my grip and, as if in slow motion, watched as it first hit my shirt, dropped down to then bounce off my left leg, and then downwards to the floor. A half hour laying on my belly with a flashlight did not restore the part to me! Curse you, Carpet Monster! and I know that it is in cahoots with the tweezers!

I'll get you both for this!

I used clear packing tape like I was cleanng the lint off a suit to find a couple of small items.  It can be a bit tedious, but it does pick up some interesting things. 

Jim

Jim  What kit brand and part number was it.  I have a bunch of non repairable F4s after the great soon to be demised cat incident, that are now spare parts kits; and I might have the part you need.

Rich

jimbot58

Frustration!

Another encounter with the F#@*&g carpet monster  and it looks like he may have won this one! I was working on the canopies tonight and I was painting up and getting ready to mount the actuators. I was holding the front one with my fine tweezers, and went to do a trial fitting! It suddenly popped loose from my grip and, as if in slow motion, watched as it first hit my shirt, dropped down to then bounce off my left leg, and then downwards to the floor. A half hour laying on my belly with a flashlight did not restore the part to me! Curse you, Carpet Monster! and I know that it is in cahoots with the tweezers!

I'll get you both for this!

Hey jimbot, I have found a weapon that will vanquish the Carpet Monster...

Have a look at this from Micromark. You will never have to crawl about on your hands and knees again.

Cheers

Frustration!

Another encounter with the F#@*&g carpet monster  and it looks like he may have won this one! I was working on the canopies tonight and I was painting up and getting ready to mount the actuators. I was holding the front one with my fine tweezers, and went to do a trial fitting! It suddenly popped loose from my grip and, as if in slow motion, watched as it first hit my shirt, dropped down to then bounce off my left leg, and then downwards to the floor. A half hour laying on my belly with a flashlight did not restore the part to me! Curse you, Carpet Monster! and I know that it is in cahoots with the tweezers!

I'll get you both for this!

It'll be nice if I ever get the darn thing finished.  I'm still waiting on Hasegawa for the replacement parts.  Probably just as well.  I've been sick as a dog since I got up this morning.  Either I picked up something or I ate something nasty..  I haven't been able to get a darn thing done on my projects.  I keep having to run to the bathroom...

Rich

Bockscar

Nice six shooter.....like to take that to the carnival.....

Nice six shooter.....like to take that to the carnival.....

Here's my little favorite.

mississippivol

 

Bockscar:

 

 

 

 

Hey! My dad still has that one in his stash. Cool kit except for the cockpit.

Glenn

Hey Glenn;

Wish I had it just for the box art!

Bockscar

Hey! My dad still has that one in his stash. Cool kit except for the cockpit.

Glenn

Throwing in the towel guys 'n gals, this has to be a repeat:

...Don't make it bad.....

Repeat?  Thanks

Nice F-4:

Repeat? -Thanks

Okay, that's all I needed to know.  I have some sway braces from another kit I can use.  I guessed I used the wrong term for the pylon.  I assembled the pylons themselves last night.  I may paint the sidewinders and ecm pods tonight if I have time.

Rich

berny13

 

 

berny13:

Rich, glad you got the ECM pods.  They mound directly to the inboard pylons.  An adapter is needed only if carried in the forward missile wells.

 

 

 

 

I am not sure of what you mean on mounting the ECM pods to a rail.  The pods mounted directly to the pylon without any type of adapter or rail.  The Sidewinder launchers and missiles would be mounted on the side of the pylons, or as we called it the shoulders.  The ECM pods had suspension lugs and these lugs mounted directly to the bonb rack inside of the pylon.  You would have to use sway braces on the pylons and mount the pods to the sway braces.  Use fine wire or some sprue to simulate the suspension lugs.  You should be able to see daylight between the pod and pylon.

Sparrowhyperion

Sorry to keep bugging you Berny.  I am trying to finalize what loadout I am going to do with the F4E.  I saw a couple of ideas online and I wanted your opinion on them.  A few had one I liked.  370g tanks outboard, fuselage bays had sparrows, and the inboard rails had 2 Sidewinders on the left and right of each pod, and they had an ECM pod in the center lower on each rail instead of the center sidewinder.  An ALQ87 on one side and an AN/ALQ101 on the other rail.  And a big centerline tank.  I am just trying to figure out how to mount the ECM pods.  the 101 pod is easy, but my ALQ87 pod has small holes on a flat surface.  So I am not sure what to do about the rail/ALQ87 join.  I don't have adapters to put them in sparrow bays and I would rather keep the sparrow bays full of sparrows anyways.  I have rails I could scoff from one of my now defunct Monogram/Revell kits.  I also found another AN/AQ101 pod in a Testor's kit.  I also have some odds and ends in my Hasegawa weapons packs that might prove useful.  What would you recommend?

Thanks

Rich

 

berny13:

Rich, glad you got the ECM pods.  They mound directly to the inboard pylons.  An adapter is needed only if carried in the forward missile wells.

 

I am not sure of what you mean on mounting the ECM pods to a rail.  The pods mounted directly to the pylon without any type of adapter or rail.  The Sidewinder launchers and missiles would be mounted on the side of the pylons, or as we called it the shoulders.  The ECM pods had suspension lugs and these lugs mounted directly to the bonb rack inside of the pylon.  You would have to use sway braces on the pylons and mount the pods to the sway braces.  Use fine wire or some sprue to simulate the suspension lugs.  You should be able to see daylight between the pod and pylon.

I'll have a look but I'm not one much for rescribing. My motto is simulate not replicate and as long as I can make a good looking model the details like re scribing don't interest me too much. But I am looking forward to building a Phantom, did a 1/72 as a kid.

Cheers

Caspar the Chihuahua -- welcome aboard, buddy! I'll update p1 right away. That's a great kit that I've wanted to do for many years. Are you going to rescribe it? Hasegawa's -B and -C models never did get the engraved treatment...

Cheers, Mike/TB379

Rich,

That is valuable information;

as a forme primary school teacher, I've learned to accomodate, 

I managed to help a couple around pisa in Italy, lol, no worries mate, let me know, happy to help...