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Way Too Many Props GB April 18, 2011 - Extended to July 28, 2012

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  • Member since
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  • From: Zephyrhills,FL
Posted by daddy1 on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:15 AM

Kevin - Good job with those flaps . That's going to be a fine build.Yes

Trey-  Just look at all the wing on that Junkers. Reminds me of the wings on the high altitude RB-57 Canberras.

 I've got some update WIP pics of the C-47.

First some pics of the unpainted little doo-dads here and there to jazz up the interior a bit more.

 

 

Static line mounts ,fore and aft.

 

 

Interior painted ,ready to wear and weather.

Found some luster paste while cleaning out my desk drawer. Forgot I had this stuff. Works great for drybrusing highlights and scuffs. Not sure if this can still be found at the art supply stores ,but there's probably something similar. It's in paste form and dampening the brush with thinner/turpentine will allow the crush to pickup a heavier load of the paste.  

 

 

 

 

Weathered with watercolor washes,drybrushed with ModelMakerz rubble dust pigment and ground pastels for a dusty dirty look.

 

 

 

 

A few pics to show why I detail the interiors ( beside my own knowing it's there ). 

Even with an model without  a huge greenhouse canopy as Trey's 188, one can still look through various windows,  hatches, etc. I like having the interior be more than an empty shell, even if you can't really see exactly, the detail inside. 

 

 

 

Overall competed fuselage.

 I still need to do up the inside surface of the doors before tacking them in place. Then on to the wings and engines.

Howard

 

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:51 AM

Kevin - I like those flaps! Great work all round!

Trey - Nice paint job on that camo!  Has Vance said, can't wait for the masks to come off!

  

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:00 AM

Nice work on the flaps etc Kevin, looks like some well detailed pieces to start with.
TREYZX10R - wow that's a big machine! Can't wait to see her with the masks off & weathering on.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Monday, February 27, 2012 9:26 PM

Decals down!

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:43 PM

Moving along to the finish on the upper surfaces RLM 75/83/76

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:08 PM

B17Pilot I hear that,I almost returned this thing to kit form a few times already. Really wish there were some other kits in 1/48 of the 88/188 to be had.

Kevin those flaps look like they fit real good,nice progress keep it coming!

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:41 PM

I haven't posted any progress pics in a while so he ya go.  I snapped a few shots of the wing assemblies and the fuselage as they currently sit.  They are not quite done as there are a few small spots in need of attention.  The flaps aren't glued in.  I just dry fitted them in, which obviously has a good fit, and took a few mock up photos.

 

 

Kevin

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:53 AM

Trey, your struggles are making me want to keep my 188 where its currently at, in the box.  Well I might be lucky and have a good fitting canopy....probably not.

  

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:17 PM

Thanks Kevin appreciate that!

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:17 PM

Sorry to hear about the canopy issues Trey.  For what it's worth, you did a heck of a job masking it.  You are a more patient man than I.

Kevin

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:00 PM

Theuns nice progress,hate to hear about the terrible fit. You'll get it tho I'm sure!

Howard thanks,yes do a 188 not enough of this under appreciated subject out there! Nice alternative suggestion to the full dio !

Vance LOL Thanks for the nice compliment!

B17Pilot go with your desires and let go ;)

Jeff thank you kindly!

I hit a huge snag with the replacemnet Canopy,I just could'nt get the fit correct at the major seam between the nose section and the mainAngry no matter what I tried !! Well wound up deforming it worse than the kit supplied one! To add injury to insult I had already masked it! I wet sanded and buffed out 85% of the blemish on the kit supplied canopy sections then transfered the masks. The fit still is'nt great but considering the 188 almost took flight into the nearest wall at one point in the struggle I'll live with itSuper Angry I'm close to being ready to paint and still have'nt decided on a scheme,leaning toward a black bottom and squiggle topside of some sort just not finding many good pics on line and my books are hopeless on the 188.Anyway here is the progress so far...........

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:47 PM

Stick with it Theuns!  Once you get a nice finish on it, all that puttying and sanding will be worth it.

B17Pilot, Be strong....

Lt. Zogg, looking forward to seeing your Lancaster come together

I got the wings and flaps glued together.  Most of the seams have been sanded smooth and I am happy to report that I have used very little putty on this build.....sorry Theuns Stick out tongue 

Kevin

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  • From: Hancock, Me USA
Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:07 PM

shiny object... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> 2 cents 

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  • From: Austin, Texas
Posted by Lt. Zogg on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:11 AM

Awesome stuff guys! 

Trey, that JU-188 is looking superb! Bow Down

Theuns, don't let that Hudson beat you, you can do it. 

Looks like I'm finally going to get my Lancaster build cranked up this week.   I'm going to get the cockpit going this week and have a relatively free weekend ahead, so should make some decent progress. 

Jeff

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:51 AM

B17Pilot

Great work going on here! Ya'll are making me want to pull out my kits of (plug in your build here) and start myself on it!

Must continue to resist. Must finish old projects. Must continue to resist. Must finish old projects.....

Be strong! I'm easily distracted too... Embarrassed

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:35 AM

Great work going on here! Ya'll are making me want to pull out my kits of (plug in your build here) and start myself on it!

Must continue to resist. Must finish old projects. Must continue to resist. Must finish old projects.....

  

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:10 AM

TREYZX10R… I've gotta stop watching what you are building, it makes me want to add (whatever you are building) to my stash! The cockpit area is looking good buddy. The pointy wingtips on this one are growing on me.

Theuns… putty / sandpaper / rinse / repeat. I haven't seen many Hudsons built up, looking forward to seeing the final product.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:43 AM

"What would we do without putty and sandpaper?"

Well I recon I would have allot more fun with this darn model  LOL!

I absolutely hate to do these mundain jobs that don't give allot of visual progress fast! I rebuild classic airplanes for a living and there are enough of those tipes of jobs on them not to come home and do it here aswell!

Must be my short attention span getting in the way LOL!

I will beat this model ,I will putty it to death! It may even become a 1/48 scale after I'mm done with it.........

 

Theuns

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  • From: Zephyrhills,FL
Posted by daddy1 on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:45 AM

Trey- Looking good man!!!Toast I need to add a Ju-88 or derivatives to my stash. 

Theuns- What would we do without putty and sandpaper ?Yes  Kind of like building a P-38. The Hudson or Ventura is another I've thought of adding to my lineup. Always liked the classic lines of  the aircraft. Looking forward to see how this turns out.

 I've got the base interior green painted in my Goony bird, but then went out of town for the weekend so I didn't get to work on it for a couple days. Currently adding the insulation blankets and other details to the inside of the fuselage halves before closing it up. Will have some WIP pics in a day or two.

BTW- The mention of a possible dio with my C-47 reminded me of a display practice I used to do. 

Since I generally don't have the space to display a diorama ,especially for a model the size of a 1/48 C-47, an alternative is to place related figures and hardware alongside the shelf displays. Adds a sense of scale and activity to an otherwise static shelf display.  

Howard

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Posted by Theuns on Monday, February 20, 2012 8:26 AM

Here is my Husdon. Man this thing needs loads of putty :-(

Italeri Hudson

I will beat into submition though!

 

Theuns

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:45 PM

Thanks Kevin! Unfortunately the kit supplied canopy assembly has a huge mold blemish so I ordered a Squadron Crystal clear replacement ,fit wise its gonna take some tweaking. I did get the gun assemblies in order and the tail feathers on .

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Sunday, February 19, 2012 4:36 PM

Looking good Trey!  I hope the canopy fits well for you.  That's a lot of glass.

I spent the last few sessions assembling the wings and flaps and started on the engine nacelles.  The fit has been really good.  There are a lot of ejector pin marks on the landing gear parts to clean up though.  Some are going to be hard to reach.

Kevin

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, February 17, 2012 6:03 AM

Hi Howard, great tip on using the signboard material, Here we call it "Correx" and I have lots of it left from a RC slope glider I built.......score!

I know exactly what you mean with the "sealing up" of the door hindges for para ops. During my time as a loadmaster in the SAAF I recall it being done with what at the time looked allot like green duct tape LOL!

Theuns

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:54 PM

Len thanks,I'm not using the kit decals so no worries there .However I need a replacement canopy mine has a bad mold blem in it hope they are as helpful.If not I  can always go aftermarket I geuss.

Howard looking forward to seeing the doors in that configuration should also show off some of that great scratching you've done!

Kevin looks like you've got the nose weight figured nicely!

I've got the wings joined up and the nacelles in place not too much filler needed thankfully!

applied some grey paint to blem check and seal up the putty

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:39 PM

Thanks B17Pilot! I will give your idea a go next time around.  This plane is rather big awkward to handle.

Kevin

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:25 PM

Looking good Macattack!

To be sure I have enough weight in the nose, I tape the rear control surfaces where they should be and anything other big item that will be behind the main gear to the fuseladge. Then I tape the main wings and any other major items (engine pods, etc) to the fuseladge as well.  I then place my thumb and index finger (or some spare tree sprue) approximately where the main gear will be and then see if it is nose heavy.  I add enough to ensure it falls forward on its own, with out help.  Also keeping in mind what paint/overcoat/decals will do to the balance as well.

  

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:13 PM

I added some weight to the front end.  Hopefully I added enough.  I made depth charge looking things with duct tape and pennies.  I then glued them behind the cockpit bulkhead.  I put a piece of black sandpaper over the doorway of the bulkhead so you can't see the weights.  Here are a few pics to help better explain it.

The "depth charges"

Bracing made from styrene

The black grit of the sandpaper hides the weights nicely

Back of the bulkhead with sandpaper "curtain"

Kevin

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:58 PM

Do I see a copy of Shep Paine's C-47 diorama in your near future?

  

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  • From: Zephyrhills,FL
Posted by daddy1 on Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:25 PM

Theuns

That detail in the C-47 cabin is exactly what I had in mind to do on my C-47. Glad to see a "how to" :-)

 

Theuns

 On further study of reference pics , I should have glued strips on edge above and below the cargo cabin windows. Would still be simple to do. 

The sheet stock I use is from the for sale/ rent, no parking etc. signs at the local home improvement store. You can either buy pre-cut strips or like I did , cut your own . A lot cheaper . Just be sure to use a fresh # 11 blade and steel straight edge to guide each cut. The stripe shadows you see in your eyes will fade in a couple days LOL.

I will be displaying this Goonie with the paratroop door open and the big cargo door hinges , I will simulate being taped off as would have been done for a real drop. Kept the rigging from snagging on the hinges. I also plan on having the top hatch over the flight deck open.

This kit has done some very nice PE boarding stairs for the open door. I'll also make up some equipment packs ready for drop to place inside, and am giving thought to making up the belly drop packs sometimes used.  Want it to look as if all it's waiting on, is a stick of Screaming Eagles to take their seats. That's my favorite way of displaying model war birds, armed and cocked, ready to go. 

Howard

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:15 AM

That detail in the C-47 cabin is exactly what I had in mind to do on my C-47. Glad to see a "how to" :-)

 

Theuns

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