Falklands/Malvinas War 30th Anniversary GB

These Friuls are killing me! Literally! I think my left thumb is dislocated from trying to drill these little monsters out without breaking too many.

Anyone got any of those Accurate Armour big fat ropey tow cables kicking around?

Found a picture of Black 14 on Modeldecal #66; it's pretty small and not too clear but nozzles appear same fuselage colour.  Also of interest, this aircraft returned to the UK with dark green gun pods taken from RAF stocks!  Model Aircraft magazine,Vol 6,Iss 5 (May 2007) has the following note on p. 24 (a 1/48 FRS 1 build ):  "Before late 1984, all SHARs had their front (cold) nozzles painted in their upper surface colour.  ... The rear (hot) nozzles have always been left natural metal and I use (Humbrol) Gunmetal for them. Humbrol's polished steel Metal Cote is a good match for new shields or Gunmetal for weathered shields and their braces.  The rear nozzles and shields soon get very sooty, so I liberally dry-brush matt black over them."  On p. 15 of this same magazine, there is a 4-view colour, full page diagram of Black 14 that shows front nozzles in fuselage colour, but I know that this is not the same as a photo.  There is also a colour guide for each Sea Harrier that participated in the conflict in this same issue; that's why I've held on to it for so long!!    Will keep searching...!   

Yes, I've seen photos both with and without paint on that set of nozzles, but haven't found a specific picture of "14" yet - there must be one out there somewhere!! I've got her sitting on the undercarriage now, installation of the gear-bay covers and final weathering shortly.

after this, better way is to find the picture of the "14" sea harrier subject

Soon hope to get back with my gr3

It may not be much help, but I have checked several books I have with colour photos of the FRS 1, including World Air Power Journal Vol. 6-article on the Harrier series- and Falklands Air War by Chris Hobson.  There are examples of both Extra Dark Sea Grey and Medium Sea Grey with the front nozzles painted in the overall aircraft colour; there are also just as many that have these same nozzles in natural metal.  There does not seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why.  On p. 58 of Hobson's book, an FRS 1 of 809 SQN has its nozzles rotated 90 degrees down for a vertical takeoff on Ascension Island--the top of the nozzle  is 'metal' coloured and the lower part is in Medium Sea Grey-indicating a rush paint job with the nozzles pointed to the rear.  It may not be authoratative, but artwork in the May 2007 issue of Model Airplane International p40 shows XZ496/27 of 800 NAS with the forward port nozzle in MSG while the rest of the aircraft  (except the rudder as well!) in EDSG. Wish I could post the pictures, but not that advanced in computer equipment or skills!     

VanceCrozier

 

USAFSPOOK:

 

 

bsyamato:

 

Nice save Vance

you're sure that exhaust are in gray? i see lots of them with natural burned metal

 

 

From my understanding, the forward exhausts are usually the aircraft color as they duct "cool" air; the rear exhausts duct "hot" air and are usually in natural/burnt metal.

 

 

hmm - that would actually make sense - the rear exhausts have a heat-shield plate that is slightly offset from the fuselage side, the forward pair don't have this shield... I need to look at a few more pics!!

I know about the differents temperatures on nozzles nbuit with sea harrier search i not find one with no metal finish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector-nozzle-sea-harrier-jet-common.jpg

the only thig is that the rear is more burned than the front nozzles

Vance don't panic about the 99% progress !! few work to archive this good harrier

USAFSPOOK

 

bsyamato:

 

Nice save Vance

you're sure that exhaust are in gray? i see lots of them with natural burned metal

 

 

From my understanding, the forward exhausts are usually the aircraft color as they duct "cool" air; the rear exhausts duct "hot" air and are usually in natural/burnt metal.

hmm - that would actually make sense - the rear exhausts have a heat-shield plate that is slightly offset from the fuselage side, the forward pair don't have this shield... I need to look at a few more pics!!

bsyamato

Nice save Vance

you're sure that exhaust are in gray? i see lots of them with natural burned metal

From my understanding, the forward exhausts are usually the aircraft color as they duct "cool" air; the rear exhausts duct "hot" air and are usually in natural/burnt metal.

dupes

Fall contests are done...so work on the FV107 Scimitar has recommenced!

Construction is just about finished (just have to review the Eduard PE instructions versus the Bison decal sheet paint scheme to see if I'm missing anything) with the exception of the tracks. Started in on the Friuls last night - these are one of the most fiddly sets I've ever used. Not to mention poorly cast? Good thing there are a lot of spare links, because I already tossed several of them.

Will post a pic before I fire any paint.

pictures!!

dupes

...these are one of the most fiddly sets I've ever used. Not to mention poorly cast? ...

Can you say "battle damage"?

Fall contests are done...so work on the FV107 Scimitar has recommenced!

Construction is just about finished (just have to review the Eduard PE instructions versus the Bison decal sheet paint scheme to see if I'm missing anything) with the exception of the tracks. Started in on the Friuls last night - these are one of the most fiddly sets I've ever used. Not to mention poorly cast? Good thing there are a lot of spare links, because I already tossed several of them.

Will post a pic before I fire any paint.

if you alreaddy passed a matt clear layer you can just drybrush it without paint it whole , in all cases the harrier already looks good

Well that's a quick fix with a carefully-placed brush. (My lack of Harrier experience showing again!), it'll look more interesting anyway, adding something other than the base colour.

Nice work vance. I wouldn't have thought the vanes at least would stay grey for long.

I'm just glad it worked. For the exhausts, I need to look at some more pics. Some I've seen with gray & "fins" in burnt metal; some are more burnt metal than gray. Maybe the ones that are gray are fresh from the factory and haven't burned off thetr paint yet???

Nice save Vance

you're sure that exhaust are in gray? i see lots of them with natural burned metal

Alright, my replacement "decal sandwich" seems to have worked. I applied the white + blue roundel two nights ago, let it sit & applied the smaller blue & red roundel over it last night. I'm sure you could see it close-up, but after I give it a quick spray of the gray filter, only I will ever know. (Well, and you guys too I suppose!) Pics with next update.

Bondoman - I think you can lower your "decal replacement alert status" now, thanks for the offer though!

~EDIT~ pics uploaded now.

The original mess...

The messy decal cleaned off, a little sanding to get a start, then flaked of with a sharp Xacto knife, a little fine-grit sanding, a dry-brush with the original colour, a spot of Future...

Hmmm - Harrier with blue & white roundel...

And with the smaller one in place. Some slicing & decal solvent will finish that off.

Overspray of the base colour is next up.

just jokin LOL really like this plane, the only similar thing i have in the stash is an antonov 2 

Thanks guys!

The jar in the tails will disappear when I attach the front gear  on the base.

VanceCrozier

 

Azorean:

 

Almost there!

The weight on the nose was not enough...

The solution is to glue the front tire on the base.

Until the finish here is more pictures.

 

 

Looking good! A shame the windows don't show a little more of the interior.

Great weork at all Azorean, the ostic colors like white ,yellow and orange is really good some door cutted was perfect my compliments man.

.. only the jar in the tails is out of scale

Azorean

Almost there!

The weight on the nose was not enough...

The solution is to glue the front tire on the base.

Until the finish here is more pictures.

Looking good! A shame the windows don't show a little more of the interior.

Almost there!

The weight on the nose was not enough...

The solution is to glue the front tire on the base.

Until the finish here is more pictures.

I know, I wasn't kidding - it MELTED that decal. And my finger was only there for a few seconds! (I guess there wasn't enough dull-cote protecting that area!!)

Vance the only advice i can give for now is not try to repair the decals with paint really hard to match the same color.  Wow you literally melt the decal

Mine was more of a "rushing to do something before I had to leave the house" accident, but it still means a mess to clean up!

Pics!

Port side before the glue issue, it looks so happy!! Also before the "mist coat" I applied to dull down the decals which looked too bright for the Falklands planes.

The underside decals, after I sliced & applied the roundels in halves...

The rest are "after the mist coat" . I think I like the effect, maybe took it a little far in places. Note the brass rod replacing the kit pitot tube.

Blade antennas in place...

And the screwed-up port-side roundel - what a mess!

BUT, I think I found the solution sitting in the same box, combining roundel decals from the two other options seems to measure out at the right sizes. I'll try it on a blank piece of styrene first just to make sure, but this is the plan:

BS -- I think it just might be! Yes, a great improvement, I can see me building this one...

M/TB379

Thunderbolt379

Speaking of Harriers... I've been a bit put off by the trench-like panel lines on the Airfix offering and have recently snagged borth the Fujimi Sea Harrier and the ESCI GR.3, both of which appear to have much finer engraving. When they arrive I'll make a decision and hopefully turn out both for this GB.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

if the esci kit is 1/72 is the same italeri mold that i'm building.. you can be sure panel lines are really fine

Vance if you can feel some comfort about newbe errors i did lots of them recently

an accident occurred to the seabat four blades rotor and become two blades ... the gannet falling on it

on the gannet self i break one of these flaps support and one lost

these little and fragile pieces need to be glued only when the whole plane is about finished !!! lesson learned

post some picture about the sea harrier trouble

Speaking of Harriers... I've been a bit put off by the trench-like panel lines on the Airfix offering and have recently snagged borth the Fujimi Sea Harrier and the ESCI GR.3, both of which appear to have much finer engraving. When they arrive I'll make a decision and hopefully turn out both for this GB.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

hmmm, I'd have to measure it to be sure. It's sitting on the side of a 1/72 Harrier right now! I'll have a look through my spares, see if I have anything close - but most of my stash is WW2. I may be contacting you for a replacement if I run out of luck!

VanceCrozier

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the home stretch on the Sea Harrier. Landing gear getting painted up, decided to add some of the blade antennas last night. Added glue to one of the ones behind the cockpit, started to move it into place & dropped it on the painted surface. No problem, I grab it quickly with fingers, put it back into the tweezers, pick up the plane & carry on.

Then I realize that...

• I had a little smudge of glue on my thumb
• my thumb happened to fall exactly where the RN decided the roundel should be placed
• perhaps my flat coat wasn't thick enough
• Airfix decals MELT when touched by Tamiya liquid cement
• my red + blue smudgy thumbprint looks nothing like a RN roundel

With no spare roundels that match up (small, red+blue only), I'm thinking of gently sanding out the worst of the smudge, then just overpainting the base-colour gray. Thoughts?

Sorry Vance LOL you performed a similar mr bean action .. hope in good repairs