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Posted by troublemaker66 on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 7:39 PM

Certainly worth the wait Kevin. What color is that anyway? And that supercharger looks very familiar...maybe a reverse engineered copy of a captured U.S. type?

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:05 PM

troublemaker66

Certainly worth the wait Kevin. What color is that anyway? And that supercharger looks very familiar...maybe a reverse engineered copy of a captured U.S. type?

was thinking the same Len

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:49 PM

TREYZX10R

 troublemaker66:

Certainly worth the wait Kevin. What color is that anyway? And that supercharger looks very familiar...maybe a reverse engineered copy of a captured U.S. type?

 

was thinking the same Len

....great minds think alike my friend...Wink That supercharger looks like the one they used on the B-17`s. By the way, thanks for the kind words regarding the Nell. Did you ever get a chance to copy the Otaki Ki-100 instruction sheet for me ?

Len

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Posted by AZKevin on Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:47 AM

troublemaker66

 TREYZX10R:

 troublemaker66:

Certainly worth the wait Kevin. What color is that anyway? And that supercharger looks very familiar...maybe a reverse engineered copy of a captured U.S. type?

 

was thinking the same Len

 

....great minds think alike my friend...Wink That supercharger looks like the one they used on the B-17`s. By the way, thanks for the kind words regarding the Nell. Did you ever get a chance to copy the Otaki Ki-100 instruction sheet for me ?

Len

 

The orange color is Floquil CN Orange.  I think the CN stands for Canadian Northern since Floquil makes mostly railroad colors (wish they made Japanese colors - their paints spray beautifully!).  Reefer orange is another very close match.

It would not surprise me one bit if the turbo-supercharger was a reverse engineered American model.  The Japanese certainly captured and flew B-17's, as well as many other American planes.  I've seen photos of a B-17 in Japanese markings, but I don't think I've seen any evidence of a captured P-47 (which was my other thought for the turbo-suercharger).  Maybe the guys over at J-aircraft.com know something?

Not that it necessaarily means anything, but the other version included in the instructions shows a long pipe leading from the front intake all the way back to the turbo-supercharger.  Might have to build taht version as well Big Smile

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:33 AM

Kevin even the bottom is perfect , with panel lines he will become magnific Yes but the supercharger is non jap made? don't remember to see one similar on others jap planes.

TREYZX10R

Bsyamato you do'nt need to be able to reach inside the canopy as foam safe(odorless) ca does'nt fog clear at all! Give it a try works great for me and it comes in thick and thin.

to clean the scout canopy i used a piece of paper cloth with water and placed on a stick to clear fog , that the motivation to reach the inside.

BTW now i removed even the side original windows on it (first i also removed the pilots doors). 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:22 AM

Kevin: Thanks for the additional photos, yeah the supercharger in the belly is interesting. I first thought about the ones on the top of the P-38, and the Ki-94 is reversed with them in the belly.

I'd love to see the resin kit if you decide to build it, I love experimental stuff like this and the Ki-94 was such a beautiful aircraft.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by AZKevin on Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:33 PM

bsyamato -

I'm not sure about this but I think the Ki-94-II was the first Japanese airplane to incorporate the supercharger.  I don't think they considered a high altitude defensive fighter until the beginning of the B-29 raids over the home islands.  I do know, from what I've read, that the Ki-94-II was specifically developed to quickly gain altitude and engage the B-29's.  I'm not sure but the breakdown of the kit (especially the cockpit) makes me wonder if it also incorporated a pressurized cockpit.  Guess I'll have to do some more reading!!

Kevin A. Lawton

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Posted by the real red baron on Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:35 PM

Gamera - I'm thinking of pulling the zero out and leaving it for the Pearl Harbour GB. And making a KI-61 Hien Tony. I've just got too find one.

Its not a confirmed change but I would like to pick up a Tony.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by AZKevin on Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:41 PM

AZKevin

bsyamato -

I'm not sure about this but I think the Ki-94-II was the first Japanese airplane to incorporate the supercharger.  I don't think they considered a high altitude defensive fighter until the beginning of the B-29 raids over the home islands.  I do know, from what I've read, that the Ki-94-II was specifically developed to quickly gain altitude and engage the B-29's.  I'm not sure but the breakdown of the kit (especially the cockpit) makes me wonder if it also incorporated a pressurized cockpit.  Guess I'll have to do some more reading!!

OK a brief wikipedia article states that the Ki-94-II did have a pressurized cockpit.

Should also have added that the Nakajima Ki-87 also had a supercharger - this on placed on the starboard side between the cockpit and engine cowling.  Not sure if this one ever flew either.

Kevin A. Lawton

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Dept. of Quaternary Sciences

Northern Arizona University

Flagstaff, AZ

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:54 PM

Baron: Sounds fine to me.

BTW guys again, I'm going on vacation/holiday this weekend and will be gone for about two weeks. If you have anything you need me to change etc please let me know by Friday evening or it'll have to wait.

I'm leaving Bsyamato in charge while I'm gone so be good Angel

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:33 PM

Gamera

Baron: Sounds fine to me.

BTW guys again, I'm going on vacation/holiday this weekend and will be gone for about two weeks. If you have anything you need me to change etc please let me know by Friday evening or it'll have to wait.

I'm leaving Bsyamato in charge while I'm gone so be good Angel

Uh oh...a nut`s running the madhouse now? We`re doomed...Wink Stick out tongueBig Smile

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, November 11, 2011 5:11 AM

Thanx AZ for the clearness Yes

The point that the supercharger seems really the same as the p-38 type or others usa planes, probably they captured on and copy the supercharger imho Hmm

Gamera in which sense i'm on charge Huh? ?

btw i finished the bargaining with my vendor about the kits , at the end i'm waiting for the amodel ( Angel yes amodel short run) ki-32 mary and... before to close the order i notice the new tooling zero was on!!!

then you can put for me the amodel ki-32 mary and the airfix A6M2b zero (both 1/72) before you leave the pacific theater Propeller 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 11, 2011 8:43 AM

Len: HAH, you think he's nuttier than me? Tongue Tied (We need a straitjacket smilie)

Bsyamato: Just joking with you friend, you seem to be around most of the time and you seem to be a really good guy so I thought I'd joke around with you.  Clown The GB will run itself on autopilot when I'm gone. The only thing I really need to do is update the front page and the build roster which I will do when I get back.

I'll put the Mary and the Zero down.

 

I should have posted a photo of the Suisei/Judy- decals and panel lines are done. And I put the landing gear on too, they don't fit very well, I glued them down good but I'm afraid they may still be woobly. Only bad thing about the kit so far.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, November 11, 2011 8:51 AM

i'm even connected from the work Whistling i'm lucky none controlling me ,need just to respect endline on work .

autopilot ready!

Captain

waiting for judy! Stick out tongue

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 11, 2011 9:43 AM

Bsyamato: Yeah, somewhat the same here - I have tests I need to set up at work and then wait a few hours for the results. So I can go on the forum, read a book, take a walk, etc while I'm waiting around. Sometimes it gets much more busy but I normally have at least some time to post.

BTW: Nice autopilot! But if he deflates you guys are going to have to deal with it Stick out tongue

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Friday, November 11, 2011 8:10 PM

Len I've not forgot about you,I'll be mailing the instructions out this weekend!

Cliff have a great vacation!

I decided to go with the aircraft in the background #296 as the kit supplied decals match. The paint seems to have adhered quite well on this example so no salt on this build.

It does show some slight chipping here and there so it still gets a base of ts-30 .The bottom got a coat of Japanese grey

artist rendering of same aircraft with different number

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:46 PM

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I zoomed in close on the pic and some salt was needed after all .The cockpit entrance has some real good chipping so figured the walk areas and ammo panels on the tops of the wing were probably pretty beat up as well.

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Posted by bsyamato on Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:46 AM

As usual magnific chipping Trey Yes

Last night i read an article about an hayate on an old modelling magazine: a new (old) tip learned without using salt tecnique Stick out tongue

this is the sequence:

light primer, metal finish, protective gloss coat , camouflage , then stripping a tape on to remove and break upper paint . I will try on a test plane.

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Posted by satch_ip on Monday, November 14, 2011 5:53 PM

Is there a Vallejo paint for Mitsubishi interiors?

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Monday, November 14, 2011 6:30 PM

Bsyamato thanks ! Looking forward to your experiment

I'm onto the decals after rubbung on some oil base wash

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:37 AM

Magnific paint Trey Stick out tongue and nice shuriken launher on wings board (no ninja face between smiles to put here)

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 6:02 PM

the new arrives:

as never seen a review of the new airfix zero ,posting some extra sprue picture about it

here the little almost jewel

rear of above sprue:

canopy really good but in single piece

engraved details , wells good but as the 90% of kits, too few dept

 

test fitting looks really good, rudder are oob detached (kit also include wings tip for carrier storge)

aand the Mary Dead

not same easy things here:

the strange option of rubber molded pneumatics Bang Head i hate rubber in scale kits!

the canopy is too thick and need to be replaced (already glued on a rod to use as mold for a new one and just failed the first 4 attempt with heat-forming Sad )

Drammatic test fitting compared to the Zero ... the prelude of an huge work to obtain something acceptable.

Also the ki-32 is huge for a single motor plane (just compared with an avenger, almost same dimensions)

At the next for real updates

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Posted by dostacos on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:52 PM

bsyamato

Gamera in which sense i'm on charge Huh? ?

that would be all the responsibility and none of the authorityWhistling

Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:21 PM

Bsyamato good looking kit the fit looks nice,hope the canopy fix works out.  Which paint scheme are you going to use?

I'm calling it finished

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:59 PM

TREYZX10R

Bsyamato good looking kit the fit looks nice,hope the canopy fix works out.  Which paint scheme are you going to use?

I'm calling it finished

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/treyzx10r/KI100GOSHIKI/goshikifini001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/treyzx10r/KI100GOSHIKI/goshikifini002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/treyzx10r/KI100GOSHIKI/goshikifini003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/treyzx10r/KI100GOSHIKI/goshikifini004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/treyzx10r/KI100GOSHIKI/goshikifini005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/treyzx10r/KI100GOSHIKI/goshikifini006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/treyzx10r/KI100GOSHIKI/goshikifini007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/treyzx10r/KI100GOSHIKI/goshikifini2001.jpg

 

Nice job on the Ki-100...Fermis is doing one, along with a Nick, in the a/c Forum (sort of a mini-group-build)...

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, November 17, 2011 4:13 AM

 

dostacos

 

  bsyamato:

 

Gamera in which sense i'm on charge Huh? ?

 

 

that would be all the responsibility and none of the authorityWhistling

Indifferent ..

Trey another magnific finish Bow Down wishing to put more jap fighter as the 94 in my collection Yes 
For the paint schemes:
unfortunately the decals i have is for only gray version of the Mary Crying don't want to paint another in light gray finish. Will search for another paint scheme on the web and use only the hinomaru from the decals sheet. Others will to recovery in other way. The real problem is the poor documentation about the ki-32 Sad
here some example of mary schemes
really like this
On the zero also only a choise from decals but fortunately an upper green/ bottom light gray subject.
On the box reported an ondulate separation between the two color 
this afternoom another canopy session Hmm

 

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Thursday, November 17, 2011 4:56 AM

Trey....Awesome work! Nice and subtle with the salt chipping, not over done...which is easy to do.

Did I tell you I have that same exact kit. Darn thing is missing the instruction sheet..................Wink

Just kiddin`...I`m finishing up the Kikka tonight hopefully...have to decal and seal. No real weathering to do because it only flew once.

Len

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:19 PM

I've lost count, is this the 4th or 5th plane you finished Trey? Another beauty. Love the salt method on her. 

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:28 PM

Manny thanks,I'll have to have a look at Ferris he does some awesome work

Bsyamato thanks ,I like the tri color paint scheme!

Len thanks and yes it easily overdone(my zeke comes to mind) You should have those anytime they went out monday

Eric thanks and that was 5 so I'm an ace lol!

Some better pics

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:05 PM

Hey Cliff put me down for the Otaki Ki-61 Tony please. The kit is the first Otaki I've come across with such a huge gap in the wing/fuse joint. I mean its friggen HUGE!

I cut some .8mm styrene to fill the gap

on to the office next

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