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Posted by troublemaker66 on Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:36 AM

David Maddog

Also, quick question, when I do the oil wash on the panel lines, for the dark green, should I go with a lighter wash? or should i stick with raw umber on all panel lines.

You can go lighter, lots of guys do. I use black or raw umber, more realistic to my eyes. The lighter shade really makes the panel lines pop out and if thats what you`re looking for, go for it. I like the black and umber washes because it looks more like dirt and grime to me. Just my 2 cents

Len

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Posted by Reasoned on Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:34 AM

David, I wouldn't say you "ruined" the finish but first off, I was led to believe that PH a/c were not heavily weathered.  Weathering is an art all its self and I'm no expert at it.  You are attempting the what I call "add to" method (e.g.., chrome silver paint highlights, or using Prismacolor silver pencil) vs what Doogs did which is what I call the "take away" method (e.g., NMF base then subtle (or not so) removal of top coat with salt or other).  I must say the later method seems to get better results but looks like greater work. In your case of the add to method, I always liked the effect of chipping near panel lines or obvious wear areas such as pilot step pattern or ground crew work areas (gun/ammo, fuel etc.)  Keep after it, as stated above the leading edges look good, you've done a great job thus far!

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:25 AM

David Maddog

So I started weathering my Val a bit, just some minor chipping, using a sponge.  I feel like I ruined the model, it just doesn't look right.  Any suggestions, or does it look ok?  I am not familiar with aircraft weathering.  I don't want to get to involved with it, like the salt technique.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/dmadsen/D3A1%20Val%20-%20Hasegawa%209055/9055028.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/dmadsen/D3A1%20Val%20-%20Hasegawa%209055/9055029.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/dmadsen/D3A1%20Val%20-%20Hasegawa%209055/9055030.jpg

David....I did the same thing on my Betty...started with a makeup sponge torn in half and looked decent...until I went too far. I just painted over the silver paint blotches last night and recoated with Future. Looking at your Val, it doesn`t look bad to me. you didn`t go overboard...leading edges look good to me.You prolly don`t like what you did by the cockpit?  Just , very carefully, airbrush right over it. After a clear coat, it should all blend in again. You didn`t ruin the model, take your time and you`ll get it back to pre-weathering condition. I got my Betty back to that state and now, I`ll try a streaking technique that I just picked up from another forum member. Good luck David,

Len

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Posted by David Maddog on Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:58 AM

Also, quick question, when I do the oil wash on the panel lines, for the dark green, should I go with a lighter wash? or should i stick with raw umber on all panel lines.

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:32 AM

Doogs magnific finished george Toast definitely now looks good!

David the Val looks good Yes

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Posted by David Maddog on Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:12 AM

So I started weathering my Val a bit, just some minor chipping, using a sponge.  I feel like I ruined the model, it just doesn't look right.  Any suggestions, or does it look ok?  I am not familiar with aircraft weathering.  I don't want to get to involved with it, like the salt technique.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, April 13, 2012 7:29 PM

Doogs: Photo up on the roster. And I deleted 'Fail Frank'. If you want me to use another photo please yell at me.

And again- Kudos sir!

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Friday, April 13, 2012 4:27 PM

Reasoned

 troublemaker66:

 Reasoned:

Don't you dare, that is one type of plane I don't have in the stash and it would cause problems....

 

...C`mon man...you can pike up a "Rufe" for 13 bucks at Tower Hobbies......Wink

 

Oh it's not the money.......... it's the "honey".Embarrassed

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, April 13, 2012 3:57 PM

troublemaker66

 Reasoned:

Don't you dare, that is one type of plane I don't have in the stash and it would cause problems....

 

...C`mon man...you can pike up a "Rufe" for 13 bucks at Tower Hobbies......Wink

Oh it's not the money.......... it's the "honey".Embarrassed

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Friday, April 13, 2012 3:53 PM

Reasoned

Don't you dare, that is one type of plane I don't have in the stash and it would cause problems....

...C`mon man...you can pick up a "Rufe" for 13 bucks at Tower Hobbies......Wink

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Friday, April 13, 2012 3:51 PM

DoogsATX

 troublemaker66:

DOOGS-  Nice work, as usual! I have the "floaty" version of the George , I think it`s called Kyofu..?..in a pile of kits close to my bench...and now it`s calling to me.....

 

Worse still...I'm pondering putting out a feeler for a "Floatie Thingie" summer GB...just sayin...

As the great and renown actor Spongebob would say..."I`m ready I`m ready!!"  Propeller I have a hasegawa Pete lurking in the stash too.....pull the trigger pardner...Cowboy

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, April 13, 2012 1:32 PM

Doogs: I can't commit to anymore GBs at this time but best of luck with the 'Floatie Thingie' TM GB Beer 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, April 13, 2012 12:47 PM

Stunning George Doogs. I really like that worn finish.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, April 13, 2012 12:35 PM

Don't you dare, that is one type of plane I don't have in the stash and it would cause problems....

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, April 13, 2012 10:34 AM

troublemaker66

DOOGS-  Nice work, as usual! I have the "floaty" version of the George , I think it`s called Kyofu..?..in a pile of kits close to my bench...and now it`s calling to me.....

Worse still...I'm pondering putting out a feeler for a "Floatie Thingie" summer GB...just sayin...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, April 13, 2012 10:30 AM

Gamera

Doogs: As usual great job! Bow Down I really like how the weathering has nicely toned the chipping down to blend smoothly with the paint.

Bsyamato: Nice work on the cockpit of Claude and Mary just looks better and better!

 

Ditto

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, April 13, 2012 8:53 AM

Doogs: As usual great job! Bow Down I really like how the weathering has nicely toned the chipping down to blend smoothly with the paint.

The GB is running to Sept. so if you should get any time off from that giant 1/32 B-25 feel free to jump back in!

 

Bsyamato: Nice work on the cockpit of Claude and Mary just looks better and better!

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Hercmech on Friday, April 13, 2012 8:38 AM

bsyamato: Very nice looking seat and cockpit in general!

Doogs: Great looking build...that is one dirty bird. Love the fluid leaks on the tank!


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Posted by troublemaker66 on Friday, April 13, 2012 5:04 AM

DOOGS-  Nice work, as usual! I have the "floaty" version of the George , I think it`s called Kyofu..?..in a pile of kits close to my bench...and now it`s calling to me.....

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, April 13, 2012 2:13 AM

Calling the George DONE!

All in all, great little kit, especially at the $18 I got it for off Sprue Brothers. I'd recommend this as a great entry into Japanese aircraft, and worlds ahead of the Tamiya Frank I managed to botch in terms of detail, engineering and fit.

Thanks for having me in this GB, Gamera - if it were running longer or I didn't already have such a full slate coming up, I'd definitely be down for a second build!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:15 PM

Bsyamato, that is looking very nice. Clever use of masks.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:49 PM

Hercmech

 

 DoogsATX:

 

Thanks guys - the George has been a fun kit! Lots of new techniques to refine coming out of it, too. Hard to believe I'm brining it in in right around one month! Definitely whet my appetite for more Japanese aircraft in the future!

Finals to come later tonight once the last bits are done...

 

 

Once you start it is hard to stop.They had such different looking craft and lots of variants...and the mainstream manufactures make lots of them too.

Ancients call japanese planes "japaningles" Whistling last night i bring the tenzan in the kitchen and was really hard to not pop start it too Angel

Doogs the George looks even more better Yes

updates on both planes:

On the Claude scratched the pilot seat adn added last details (ok need to add again the throttles Embarrassed will add after the black instruments paint). The bulkhead modified to fit better in the fuselage

and after the first green

drilled also the holes for the shells. The IP was painted too.

The Mary tail insigna mask

 

all masks off, drybrush on the under grey, and first and second gloss coat. A side note; used the new humbrol gloss coat in the glass bottle, had lots of problem about the thinner normally i use with humbrol colors Tongue Tied i hope this will not give problems after the model is finished.

and now drying time

 

that's all Toast


 

 

 

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Posted by Hercmech on Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:29 PM

A lot of props see dings and such on the back as well as on the front.


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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:25 PM

I'm certain you've researched this a lot more than me and it would appear in all the "restored" a/c photos there's not much weathering to be seen anywhere (which makes sense for restored a/c).  Only photo i came across (sure you have it too) is this:

 

Hard to tell on the prop

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:23 PM

Hercmech

 

 DoogsATX:

 

Thanks guys - the George has been a fun kit! Lots of new techniques to refine coming out of it, too. Hard to believe I'm brining it in in right around one month! Definitely whet my appetite for more Japanese aircraft in the future!

Finals to come later tonight once the last bits are done...

 

 

Once you start it is hard to stop.They had such different looking craft and lots of variants...and the mainstream manufactures make lots of them too.

Yeah my stash has gone from none to:

  • 1/48 A6M2 Rufe
  • 1/48 Ki-84 (x2) Frank
  • 1/32 Ki-44 Tojo 40mm variant
  • 1/32 Ki-61 Tony
  • 1/32 Ki-84 Frank

All Hasegawa. Need to add a Zero in there are some point, too.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Hercmech on Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:15 PM

DoogsATX

Thanks guys - the George has been a fun kit! Lots of new techniques to refine coming out of it, too. Hard to believe I'm brining it in in right around one month! Definitely whet my appetite for more Japanese aircraft in the future!

Finals to come later tonight once the last bits are done...

Once you start it is hard to stop.They had such different looking craft and lots of variants...and the mainstream manufactures make lots of them too.


13151015

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:53 PM

Reasoned

Looks good Doogs, might want to give that prop a couple of whacks too.

Been wondering about that, actually. Never seen much weathering on Japanese props...what gives with that? Would they have the metal chipping reminiscent of US props?

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:50 PM

Looks good Doogs, might want to give that prop a couple of whacks too.

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by waikong on Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:06 PM

Doogs, I like it, I dont think its overdone at all.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:01 PM

Thanks guys - the George has been a fun kit! Lots of new techniques to refine coming out of it, too. Hard to believe I'm brining it in in right around one month! Definitely whet my appetite for more Japanese aircraft in the future!

Finals to come later tonight once the last bits are done...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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