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Posted by Theuns on Monday, December 5, 2011 11:29 AM

I was thinking to do the Helldiver aswell, but after seeing all those raised detail I will give it a miss.

Since there is a bit of time left, sign me up for another build, this time a new tool 1/72 BF 110 in either Eastern front or BOB colours.

Got the kit today and eccept for the now standard pannel trenshes it looks good.

Pix to follow.

 

Theuns

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Posted by bsyamato on Monday, December 5, 2011 11:45 AM

Theuns if you want to get the good 1/72 helldiver you need the academy one, as i know is the best helldiver in this scale.

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Posted by Theuns on Monday, December 5, 2011 12:12 PM

Yes I have been reading some good reviews on the Academy Helldiver, the detail is not so old like on the Aifix one.

I have been looking into allot of the socalled "new" airfix kits, but it seems allot of them are just old moulds in the new box.

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Monday, December 5, 2011 12:33 PM

Embarrassed i'm sure the latest zero i get is new mold, best way  is to check on airfix forum the kits codes and compare the kit you wish to get .

http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/index.php?c=11

here the link with all product years

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Posted by eatthis on Monday, December 5, 2011 1:23 PM

do you think these colours work together? ps i know theres too much light gray im gonna mask again and alter it

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by eatthis on Monday, December 5, 2011 3:58 PM

much better :)


 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by Greenshirt on Monday, December 5, 2011 5:15 PM

eatthis

much better :)

I wonder how it would look with a digi-Camo scheme?

http://www.hyperstealth.com/Mig29/index.html

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Posted by eatthis on Monday, December 5, 2011 5:27 PM

luckily for me digital camo doesnt fit the time frame (this is a 70s-80s build) THANK GOD lol

 

getting there now got to fill around the gun when the glues set and repaint that area

i really really like the tsr2 in this (made up) scheme :)

 

 

 

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 4:40 AM

Camo looks better now Yes

 

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Posted by eatthis on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 6:15 AM

done :)

 

thor is a hammer wielding god of thunder and lightning and as such seemed a good name for the premier strike/interdiction aircraft  in the world












 

 

 

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:25 AM

Wow! very well done- the cameo looks great and the comparison of the two is good to see.

I may just need to look out for one of these kits---very interesting.

Steve

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 10:22 AM

DUSTER

...

I may just need to look out for one of these kits---very interesting.

it's impossible, Eatthis brought all the latest copy in the world of this kit  Whistling

Great finished one Eatthis YesYes

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Posted by eatthis on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 10:36 AM

lies damn lies i say.........

 

 

theres plenty iv not got my mitts on yet

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 10:38 AM

LOL Beer

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 11:49 AM

Picked up this little Airfix 1/72 Huricane Mk1 after I just got the new tool BF 110. I thought the Hurri was the same quality as the BF, but after opening the box I was rather dissapointed to see it had allmost no internal detail ,no wheel wells and raised detail. Obviously an old mold, not like the 110  :-(

I tried to dress the cockpit with a collomb but under the canopy I think very little will be visable anyway. I might have to do an in flight modle as the wheel wells are not even there, let allone bare!

I decided to sand down the raised detail and re-scribe it. After comparing the left (scribed) wing to the right, I fell a tad more posative about the model.I will not do anything special to it, just a fun littte build.

Airfix 1/72 Huricane

Kit shot

Airfix 1/72 Huricane

After 30 minutes of work...

Re-scribed pannellines

New scribe lines highlited with pencil jut to ID them on the left wing.

Theuns

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 1:05 PM

Well, im back, my heads still not quite there yet. Having trouble dealing with the death of the family's lodestone. It may take me a few days to work through any new additions. But if you want to enter, just go for it and start posting pics, ill get caught up eventually.

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Posted by Greenshirt on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 1:43 PM

Theuns:  actually a very accurate kit of the Mk I Hurri with metal wings.  Try a search on the web for a build review, I remember reading one where the builder boxed in the wheel wells and added a bit of detail to the cockpit. He finished with a vac canopy, opened, by Squadron. 

By rescribing you've done most of what he did. 

Tim

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Posted by Centhot on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 6:31 PM

WB Scorpio,  Just  take things at your own pace....

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Posted by DUSTER on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 11:56 PM

Scorpiomikey;  I've watched the guys, for you. For the most part they've done very well.... of course, after the fire crew left and the police helocopters flew away,  its nearly back to just as you left it.......dont worry, they say the smoke stain and water damage will be easy for you to patch up .  Oh and Welcome back.

 

Seriously; welcome back

Steve

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, December 8, 2011 12:05 AM

DUSTER

Scorpiomikey;  I've watched the guys, for you. For the most part they've done very well.... of course, after the fire crew left and the police helocopters flew away,  its nearly back to just as you left it.......dont worry, they say the smoke stain and water damage will be easy for you to patch up .  Oh and Welcome back.

 

Seriously; welcome back

Lol thanks duster, i needed a good laugh.

Thanks everyone for understanding.

I should have everything up to date by sunday.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, December 8, 2011 12:35 AM

3 major updates. Sorted them out.

The hurricane that airfix markets as a mkI is actually a MkIa. If its was a MkI it would have a 2 blade wooden prop. When they received the new 3 blade props they became MkIa. and IIRC when they received the hamilton standard props they became a Mk2. 

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Posted by Centhot on Thursday, December 8, 2011 3:47 AM

The central canopy section was changed too I believe, between 1 & 1a, windshield too?

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, December 8, 2011 1:37 PM

Was it? I remember reading that the prop was the only difference. Could be wrong though

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Posted by Greenshirt on Thursday, December 8, 2011 7:06 PM

Well, no.  The Mk I used the Merlin II and III engines.  The difference being the III could accommodate the DH or Rotol props (3 blades) to replace the 2 bladed Watts prop.  

They were referred to as "Mk I (early)" to denote Merlin II with fabric wings and Watts prop plus some other details; and "Mk I (late)" to denote Merlin III with metal wings and DH or Rotol prop. 8x.303 guns in the wings. Because the mods were not interdependent, metal winged Mk I could have a Watts prop and fabric winged Mk I could have DH or Rotol props. By BoB all fabric wings and Watts props were phased out, but rare exceptions existed (check photos).  During Battle of France many still had fabric wings and/or Watts props. 

To improve performance the Merlin XX engine was chosen for the Mk II. The Mk II was to have 12 x .303 but due to shortages the early production batches only had 8. To indicate the difference in gun configuration the 8 gun Mk II was called the Mk IIa and the 12 gun configuration was called Mk IIb. For clarity historians and Modelers refer to the 8 gun wing as "a" and 12 gun wing as "b", retro-labeling that to the Mk I's. 

To create more confusion, the Mk IIa had a Series I and a Series II. Series II could carry wing drop tanks, but no bombs. 

The Mk IIc had 4 x 20mm cannons in the wing. The Mk IId had two 40 mm cannon below the wings. All had the Merlin XX engine. 

For more confusion, this doesn't apply to Sea Hurricanes!

I'm sure there are exceptions to the above...but I don't have anything in my notes. 

Tim

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, December 8, 2011 7:12 PM

Thats pretty comprehensive, thanks Greenshirt.

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Posted by Centhot on Friday, December 9, 2011 7:05 AM

So, what about the change of the central canopy section from flat to bubble.  Wasn't that from 1 to 1a?

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Posted by Greenshirt on Friday, December 9, 2011 10:14 AM

There seems to be a bit of confusion...

Centhot:  You must mean the Spitfire canopy.  My notes above were for the Hurricane.  The Hurricane canopy did not change throughout production.

However the Spitfire mark numbers are somewhat similar.  The Spitfire Mk I began with the same/similar Merlin II engine and a 2 bladed prop.  Later upgraded to the Merlin III and 3 bladed props.  The hood was upgraded from a flat top and flat sides to curved top and flat sides, but that mod had nothing to do with the Mk numbering.  

Mk numbering is based on the engine.  The suffix a, b, c, d, etc; is generally descriptive of the armament carried, but not always as it was not standardized for all aircraft.

By the Battle of Britain, all Spitfires, but exceptions probably existed, were upgraded to Mk I (late) standards:  Merlin III, 3 bladed prop, armored windscreen, seat armor, improved canopy and radio.  Most of the external things we modelers see.  It was still a Mk I and not a Mk Ia.

When the cannon were tested/added in Fall 1940 to the Mk I it was denoted as a Mk Ib, and then the earlier, 8 gunned Mk I was denoted as the Mk Ia.

The Mk II had the Merlin XII (external difference is the Coffman starter bulge on the right nose cowl) but otherwise the Mk II was the same as the Mk I:  IIa had 8x.303; IIb had 4x.303 + 2x20mm.  There was a Mk II LR as well that was a IIa with a long-range tank added to one wing (not jettisonable.)

The Mk III, a prototype only, 2 made, used the Merlin XX (same as the Hurricane II).  But because of priorities the Hurricane got the Merlin XX production and the Mk V resulted using the Merlin 45 series.

Hope this helps.

Tim

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Posted by the real red baron on Friday, December 9, 2011 2:59 PM

Seams filled and engine/cowling attached.

Masking canopies and model for painting next.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Alex Shaw on Friday, December 9, 2011 3:11 PM

the real red baron

Seams filled and engine/cowling attached.

Speaking of filling, I've finally done with the filling and sanding of my Concorde. Should have it painted by the end of the week.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Friday, December 9, 2011 5:16 PM

Alex Shaw

 

 the real red baron:

 

Seams filled and engine/cowling attached.

 

 

Speaking of filling, I've finally done with the filling and sanding of my Concorde. Should have it painted by the end of the week.

Gonna post some photos?

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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