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Blitzkrieg in the West (France 1940) Sept. 18 2011 - March 1 2012

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:26 PM

WBILL - Making all of those PE tool clamps and details can be tedious, they look great!  The spare track brackets and track pins are right on the money.  Cupola and vision block assembly is really cool.  The amount of detail in this kit and your talent is going to make for one heck of a finish Yes

TREAD - That is very odd about the B1, no tail light?  I too looked through a few pictures and did not see one on any of them, strange.

BILL212 - Weld beadsare very nice.  These dragon Pz I's do have nice engine hatches to leave open.  Have not so far but I too would like to try leaving them open with a full engine to have a look at.  The interior set you have looks to be a good one.  Look forward to that.

CARL - Agree with Eric, tonal variances really look good.  Nice fix on the rear boogie.  Rubber band tracks are also very well done.  Like the coloring you achieved on them.  Was there any special method used in painting them?  I've never had much luck with the rubbers.  One other thing would like to point out now that there is paint is how well the angle bracket for the engine deck looks!  OH, I too usually go blackish rubber for the brake vent

Question for you or anybody: What is the plate hanging off the back of the case mate, behind where the turret would be?

KVELDULFR - That looks like the molds you would find in a Mirage kit.  Have built a few Mirage kits and with a little work they build into nice kits.  That is more extras then I was expecting to see, with all of that should turn out great.

MALONE - Nice thus far.  Those are nice interiors on these Pz I dragon kits.

There's room for plenty Pz I's, they were the majority of the German vehicles during the Blitz.

 

Rob

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:18 PM

PANZERWAFFE

CARL - Agree with Eric, tonal variances really look good.  Nice fix on the rear boogie.  Rubber band tracks are also very well done.  Like the coloring you achieved on them.  Was there any special method used in painting them?  I've never had much luck with the rubbers.  One other thing would like to point out now that there is paint is how well the angle bracket for the engine deck looks!  OH, I too usually go blackish rubber for the brake vent.

I'm sorry Rob, but this was the laugh of the day for me. Big Smile My apologies to the the mods.

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:28 PM

Rob i tried something new on painting the tracks . I used MM flat black thinned with lacquer thinner . I did not bother to clean the vinyle tracks . The paint seemed to have a good bite and did not flake off even when i spread the tracks over the rear idler . Then i brushed on tannish brown chalks over both sides of the tracks , then sprayed the tracks with Krylon lacquer clear matt , this turns the chalks a deeper brown/back but also gives a rougher surface for the next application of chalks to adhere to . so after the final coat of chalks i ran a soft graphite pencil inside the track teeth to show a metalic surface .................then stretched the treads over the drive sprocket and other rolling gear . No flaking .

That plate on the rear deck behind the turret ................not sure of its use . Lokks like it could be some kind of extra shield , for what i know not . Betcha WBill might have an answer .

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:32 PM

BaBill , little Pz.'s all over . Maybe we could start our own sub G.B. of this G.B. ................Yes

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:39 PM

Carl, my friend, you are the master modeler. Bow Down

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:53 PM

Thanks Bill and Rob, appreciate the comments!

BeerCarl, I have no idea what that plate is meant to represent...it appears to be an added overhang over the air vent that's present at that point over the engine deck. I've never seen that fitted that I recall and can't find any mention of such a modification in any of my references. Unlike the Pz I-As which received some modified protection to the engine deck, the Pz I-Bs weren't given anything like that as a standard modification before or after production.

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Posted by BaBill212 on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:02 PM

wBill,,     always welcome           tis a pleasure

Rob,,     thanks, the open hatches do entice........     would like to do an open engine config

Carl,,,     hm,, a pz I GB             could be interesting... ..  ..  ..  if I would, it would be with open engine hatches!

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:10 PM

BaBill212

wBill,,     always welcome           tis a pleasure

Rob,,     thanks, the open hatches do entice........     would like to do an open engine config

Carl,,,     hm,, a pz I GB             could be interesting... ..  ..  ..  if I would, it would be with open engine hatches!

If i ever build another Pz.1 it wont be an Italeri kit Bill . Open hatches on the turret also . I'd be tempted to through the works as far as P.E. and other details into the build .Alas , i shouldnt dreeam of another G.B. at this point ..............me and my dreaming outload again .Zip it!

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:46 AM

Lots of good stuff, guys! Toast

Fall shows are finally over...time to get serious at the bench and crank out a ton of builds. May have to do an a/c for this one due to severe panzer gray burnout, but there are no guidelines for what qualifies. Is a Bf-108 (that's an eight, not a nine) appropriate? Got the Eduard kit I've been jonesing to build.

T-man?

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:35 PM

WBill thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us .Yes

Super detail on your Pz.IV is looking great .Yes About that "dog chain" on the towing pin . The Pz.1 i'm building had it molded in plastic as being atteched to the bottom of the pin . That point of attachment looked impratical to me since the pin is remved by pulling the pin up but that would leave the chain being thru the hole where the pin was ..........???? It looks like you attached your chain to the top of the pin which makes more cense to me .

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:47 PM

Eric , you are too kind. If anything i am among the many of you that are super modelers , but i am not one to push aside a complement from a  friend ..............Thanks !YesBeer

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:51 PM

tigerman

 PANZERWAFFE:

CARL - Agree with Eric, tonal variances really look good.  Nice fix on the rear boogie.  Rubber band tracks are also very well done.  Like the coloring you achieved on them.  Was there any special method used in painting them?  I've never had much luck with the rubbers.  One other thing would like to point out now that there is paint is how well the angle bracket for the engine deck looks!  OH, I too usually go blackish rubber for the brake vent.

 

I'm sorry Rob, but this was the laugh of the day for me. Big Smile My apologies to the the mods.

I read that in the original but dint acknowledge its humor . Eric , glad you brought it back , it is funny especially when i suppose Rob wasnt making a funny statement on purpose ...............or were you Rob ? Stick out tongue

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:03 PM

Holy paint fumes Batman!  Great work in here.  My progress has been painfullt slow.  Taking a while to get enough done ofr a photo to be considered a "progress pic".  But I iwll have one soon.  Probably tonight.

Marc, the 108 was used as a liaison aircraft throughout the entire war.  How pivotal it was as far as a blitzkrieg is concerned... Eric will have to make that call. 

Marc  

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Posted by modeler#1 on Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:22 PM

Finished!

Here are some pics.

the base.

On the Bench: Nothing atm

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:34 PM

Modeler#1: Already finished? Wow! And really sharp work, love the crazy camo scheme! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:37 PM

Looks good M1.  I like the camo.

Marc  

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Posted by modeler#1 on Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:40 PM

Gamera

Modeler#1: Already finished? Wow! And really sharp work, love the crazy camo scheme! Yes

LOL I took a week off from building!

On the Bench: Nothing atm

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:06 PM

Nice work on the paint scheme on the R35. The French certainly had a knack for patterns. Yes

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:46 PM

YesGood looking camo Modeler 1 .

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Posted by BaBill212 on Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:52 PM

Modeler 1,,,  nicely done!!!

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:58 PM

pre shading , post shading , chalks and sealed with krylon matt .I forgot the decals ....................Dunce

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Posted by treadwell on Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:48 PM

Nicely done modeler #1 .... BeerYes  love the camo job!  congrats on finishing ( and so quickly !)

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by treadwell on Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:54 PM

Heya Shell :  ) looking great !  looks like yer almost done also ! DAM....   Am I really that slow ?

apparently so..... ho hum

great work manBeer

treadCool

P.S.    got your email .... I am so jealous and not afraid to admit it.... what a beautiful carYes !!!!

   

 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:45 PM

Carl,,           decals,,,,    are you going to go with dry transfers?

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:46 PM

Carl, nice work on the pre-shading and other tone variations. Yes

Today was one of those model building sessions where you get on a roll and time just flies by...before I knew it, 4 hours had gone by but a lot of progress happened in that period, so on with the update!

Step 13 deals with details for the turret floor/bottom and is a pretty straightforward step. The only thing I did different was to attach the floor support arms to the turret bottom first and then attached the circular tread plate to them vs the other way around...the attachment points to the tread plate aren't very large and it's very easy to install them slightly crooked if you do it this way. The turret bottom had several large semi-circular pour stubs present with matching holes that had to be dealt with...so some Squadron White putty and sanding did the trick. All of this will get painted and detailed prior to assembling the turret later on.

Steps 14 and 15 deal with the assembly of the main gun and the mantlet/recoil housing. The option is provided to use either a turned aluminum one-piece barrel or a two-piece styrene barrel. I opted for the styrene barrel since it a) had rifling molded in while the aluminum did not, b) the two halves were molded in such a way that the seam was hidden away inside the whole assembly and c) I had some slight concerns about added weight (later proved to be non-issue) and the ability of the gun to elevate/position.

Step 14 assembles the barrel and breech with the breech in two halves so some slight sanding is needed to eliminate that join seam. The breech block is a separate part and was left off to make it easier to paint later on.

Step 15 is where there's a major mine field waiting for the unwary and I do not recommend assembling things as the diagram indicates. This is particularly true of the external mantlet, part Y3, as there's really nowhere to attach it to at this stage, so it should be left separate. There's enough clearance for it to slip over the antenna rail under the barrel, so no worries there.  The internal mantlet and recoil housing should be assembled (parts F22-F12-F37) using the gun barrel to insure they are all lined up properly but don't glue the gun barrel into position at this stage or you may have major trouble in Step 16 when it comes to installing the recoil guards.

The step also has one of the elevation pin supports (W7) backward in the instructions...they should both face the same way and should not be glued to the pins. They are a tight friction fit and will support the weight of the full gun assembly with no problem. The coaxial MG sleeve (Y1) is supposed to install into the molded opening on F22 but the opening is significantly too small...so I had to carefully enlarge it with a round needle file to get the fit needed. Last but not least, you can ignore part F30, it serves no usable purpose and its detail is completely hidden away inside the recoil housing once the full assembly is done.

That brings us to Step 16, which deals with installing the gun and mantlet into the turret front plate. The space tolerances here are very tight so it is necessary to first install the gun by very carefully placing glue only above and below the openings that the curved side of the elevation pin covers fit into...that way you don't get glue on the pins but still secure the mount into position. After letting that dry thoroughly, then the external mantlet is added along with the armored vision port covers on either side. I also used a drill bit and pin vise an opened up the molded-close port for the gunner's scope. The option is there to pose the ports in the open position using PE parts for the hinges but they don't actually fit due to the presence of molded detail on the inside...so my momentary temptation to pose one open was eliminated due to the effort required to make it work.
The main gun is dry-fit only at this point, still haven't glued it in place yet.

With the outside done and set up, I set to work on the interior details for the gun and plate. The recoil housing has to attach to the front turret plate AND points on the gun breech...so if you didn't get the gun breech aligned properly earlier and glued it into position, it would be very tough to fix at this stage. The recoil guards were added, starting with the left side and working my way around and once everything was set, the gun breech was finally glued into position. I also drilled out the eyepiece on the gunner's scope, installed the coaxial MG, and added the spent shell basket to round things out.
 

Next up is the turret top!

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Posted by treadwell on Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:29 PM

tread @ wbill

hey Bill.... your model is one of those whose construction really separates the men from the boys....Mama.....

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:36 PM

BaBill212

Carl,,           decals,,,,    are you going to go with dry transfers?

Bill , i went with the kit decals . They actually went down really well .Yes There were some numbers provided for the turret but i'm leaving them off .

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:47 PM

WBill ...................Yes

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:53 PM

Treadplate........It was $3500 brand new in 67 ........can you believe it !?

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, October 21, 2011 12:41 AM

Well done modeler. Wish we could have gotten some progress pics. Good job on the funky camo.

We need to get a vote on those badges. This is the second modeler finished.

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