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Blitzkrieg in the West (France 1940) Sept. 18 2011 - March 1 2012

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  • Member since
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:28 PM

I'd be nearly done painting if we had not had rain for the past two days...AngryUmbrellaStorm

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
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  • From: beacon falls , Ct.
Posted by treadwell on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:17 PM

tread @ Eric : )

hey buddy my pinkies are crossed for ya also !

It is amazing how many guys are painting already !

treadCool

   

 

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  • From: beacon falls , Ct.
Posted by treadwell on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:11 PM

tread @ Cliff 

hey Cliff I agree ... very happy with the Char !... even though it's shake & bake LOL...

but I am adding or going to add every detail I can find.

 

I just got done staring at my Char for about 45 minutes then went to watch TV with my better half... whew...............I'm pooped...... I was thinkin' about the paint... I know everybody is expecting the three color

' puzzle' type or should I do 'Fantastique'.... gave serious thought, but to busy looking.. it kinda hurts my eyes.. but really at this point , even though 'Bourrasque' is been done and done and done....I love it  and I also really love 'Marseilles'.....

would following my heart be a modeling cop-out?  The model is so simple, the paint is everything..

I am even considering doing 'Jean Bart'  the monochromatic gray one...not cause it's easy,but, because one color can be really tough to pull off....and it looks bad @zz all gray.....

ahh... just ramblin'..... thanks for listening

treadCool

You haven't said yet, but which one are you doing?  (if you said, I missed it sorry)

 

   

 

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:07 PM

Using Bill's build log and the Dragon engineering diagrams, otherwise known as instructions, I completed my leaf spring suspension assembly.  Mine however differs from Bill's as the wheel posts are solid and Bill's are hollow.  Is it me or the kit?

 

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  • From: beacon falls , Ct.
Posted by treadwell on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 7:29 PM

tread @ wbill

All kidding aside, I cannot believe the furious pace you are able to maintain !

It shows what long time expertise can do .

Amazing.

treadCool

   

 

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 5:23 PM

Clever remedy for the gap Bill. Yes

Worked on one side of the tracks today. I had to glue them one-at-a-time first to get them to hold and spread the Testors pink glue all over them. Waiting to cure a bit before shaping them. Pinkies crossed.

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 Eric 

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:32 PM

Today's efforts focused on the fenders and joining the upper and lower hull together. That meant a departure from the kit instruction assembly order as that isn't called for until Step 20 as the next to last item but involves a great deal of peril if you follow that path. Why do you ask? Because the attachment points between the fenders and the upper and lower halves have to be in perfect alignment for everything to work correctly and aside from the tread plate pattern on the fenders, there's nothing to guide you in attaching the fenders directly to the upper hull as the instructions call for.

Instead of doing that, I chose to attach the fenders and glacis plate (remember the instructions wanted you to attach that to the upper hull too in the previous Step 8) directly to the lower hull. Two choices of fenders are provided, those on the D sprue have open locater holes while those on the S sprue are smooth and meant to be used with the kit-supplied "clean" tools and PE clamps. I opted for the S fenders and removed the bolts on the rear (the instructions indicate this is needed only on the D fenders but is essential regardless of which set is used) that aren't accurate for the Ausf C. I also used a pin vise and drill bit to open up the necessary holes on the front of the fenders to take the headlights later on. No hole is provided for the driver's side siren mount so when it is installed, I will use the headlight position as a guide.

The fenders have a tendency to want to droop due to their weight and the narrow attachment surfaces available for gluing, so it's essential to install one fender side at a time and use finger pressure and eyeball checks to make sure they install as level as possible.

After the fenders were set, I installed the upper hull. A combination of liquid and regular glue was used and gentle finger pressure under the fenders to insure a solid join all around was achieved. Rubber bands would've been counter-productive here in terms of causing the fenders to bow, so time and patience were required working one side at a time until the glue had set up enough to let it sit on its own.

There was a gap at the hull rear that I couldn't find either a cause or remedy for other than to just fill it. The gap was too wide for putty, so I opted for some thin styrene rod I had on hand. Generous amounts of liquid glue were applied and pressure with a toothpick to wedge it into the gap and once the glue had dried, I used a square tip needle file to sand it down.

That left the rest of Step 9 to complete in the form of the front and rear fenders as well as the driver and radio operator hatches.

Next up will be fitting all the PE clamps to the fenders for the various gear that has to go there.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:52 PM

tigerman

Bondo, great start on the target. Oh wait a minute, you're on my team. LOL

Satch and Bill, monster kits that I couldn't even fathom. My guess is that you'll be ready for some Tamiya kits after this one. Wink

Thats where I was entering this GB. Those two Tamiya kits are great for getting me rejuvinated for my next few projects...Surprise I am looking at Italeri, Dragon, and Skif for my next few...Hmm

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:02 PM

Yes, I've got one or two of the Dragon Super kits in my stash. I've looked over them but now I think I'm afraid to build them IndifferentWow

Very happy this Tamiya kit has maybe 10% the parts...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:49 PM

Bondo, great start on the target. Oh wait a minute, you're on my team. LOL

Satch and Bill, monster kits that I couldn't even fathom. My guess is that you'll be ready for some Tamiya kits after this one. Wink

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 Eric 

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  • From: Allentown, PA
Posted by BaBill212 on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:16 PM

Bondo,,   The Potez is coming along,, nicely.   All olive drab?....   it'll still look good. Personally I don't mind that scheme.

Stik,,    That UE is looking better every day.     You put those bikes together fast!   I have a hard time getting the stuff out of a box within a few hours!

Satch,,   I think it will be cool to see you and wBill's Pz IV.C's,,,,  my bet is they will both be stunners.

I had all intentions of putting up some pics last night of my limited progress...  I have no idea where the time goes though.     I looked up and it was way past time to hit the hay.   Hopefully I will get some up tonight.

 

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 12:19 PM

AndyT, bondoman, nice work on the aircraft side of the house! Yes

BaBill and Carl, my pleasure and thanks for the comments.

BeerStik, can't argue with you there...although the kit does warn you on the box top as to the parts count and with all the nice CAD drawings showing just how complex everything is. Big Smile Nice work on the UE and bikes, really coming together.

Satch, no worries my friend. Happy to offer whatever insights I can along the way. I'm enjoying my build, just have to be prepared for the mental challenge it presents in terms of the sheer number of parts and associated clean-up that goes with that and study the assembly instructions very carefully. The build-order they call for isn't necessarily the best one IMHO! Wink

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:57 AM

Had I know that Bill is building the same kit, I would have chosen something else.  It's tough to build something along side a master modeler like Bill.  C'est La Vie...

Got home from a trip late last night so I cracked it open.   Super Kit is an apt description.  30 somting parts just for the drive sprocket!  I too opted for the simple version.

I found Bill's build blog and it looks to be very helpful.  Thanks Bill!

Satch

  • Member since
    July 2008
  • From: South of france
Posted by Vit13 on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:36 AM

hello

very beautiful this UE .

Bondoman nice job on your Potez 540.

 

I've ordered 2 engines for my breguet 693. I work now on the interior . This kit is old and the cockpit is empty.

 

Jc

 

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:20 AM

There's another storm coming thru right now at 1.00 am.

I'm working on the nacelles which are the next challenge. This kit is cool- it has about 250 parts which is a lot for a little 1/72 two engine.

 

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:15 AM

Andy, the Gladiator is looking good in warpaint!Yes

WBill, I like that MkIV... one very detailed kit...

As for me, I accomplished more today that I thought I would. The rain let up in the late morning so I was able to get a gloss coat on the carrier. Then I attached the stowage. While the glue for that dried I was able to build the two German Motorcycles. (I will build the two rider figures tomorrow) One I was done with the bikes it was time for decals on the UE Carrier.

The UE

and the bikes...Zundap on the left, BMW on the right... 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:29 AM

I've been cooking along on the Potez 540. I've done a bunch of research and the only color scheme in 1940 was Olive Drab, so away we go with that. Tonight I painted the interior and the control stand, before a little fine brush detailing.

 

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    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 11:12 PM

Started painting, because I was bored. Liked the color, but wasn't thrilled with the coverage. I was spraying Model Master Field Drab Acryl, but it seemed way too thin. I did thin it down, but it just didn't see to want to cover.

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 Eric 

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  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 10:04 PM

wBill , like Bill said .Yes

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  • From: Allentown, PA
Posted by BaBill212 on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 8:23 PM

Carl,,,      great save

wBill,,    super detailed description....  I do like the step by step (looking good) and,,  thanks for all the info

AndyT,,    that camo is coming along nicely

 

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

  • Member since
    September 2011
  • From: Vancouver, WA
Posted by AndyT on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 5:51 PM

I stand in abolute awe of the talent in this build Bow Down;

Here is the top wing attached. Still need to do the guy wires.

 

 

Andy
Imagination is Froever.

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    July 2004
  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 4:58 PM

Moving right along with this one, I started work on the upper hull with Step 5. This step deals with the air intakes and the upper hull rear plate. The option is provided to use either a one-piece styrene assembly for the intakes or use a 7-part PE assembly. I opted for the PE as the intakes on the C are a prominent feature and the PE provides a more in-scale appearance. The PE assembly was done using CA gel as the DML design is pretty sturdy on its own as it employs a slot/tab arrangement for each of the parts.

The intakes were glued into place with CA gel at the front only and then the rear hull plate fitted. This was to insure that I had a solid alignment and some flexibility at the rear portions of the intakes to make minor fit adjustments if needed. Once the rear plate had set, I went back and used liquid glue and some strategic amounts of CA gel to get the rest of the intakes aligned. The pic below is pre-alignment.

I also left off part E23 until the upper and lower hulls are joined as it is the top half of the bolt flange on the real deal and needs to align with the lower hull to be correct. The hooks for the tow cable were also left off for the time being to avoid damage/loss and will be added later. 

Step 6 assembles the superstructure front plate and includes some nice optional detail for the driver's periscope and vision block as well as the radio operator's pistol port and vision block. None of this will be seen on my build since those hatches will remain closed, so the assembly of those parts was skipped. I did complete the exterior as called for with the installation of the pistol port, vision port cover, and the driver's visors and rain shield. I posed the driver's visors in the open position.

Step 7 is a minor detail step that assembles the jack block (skipped for now) and the hull vision ports (skipped entirely). Step 8 assembles the upper hull superstructure and this requires some strategic thinking in terms of order. I started with the side panels first, using regular glue as they attach only at the top edge and let that set a bit. Then I added the front plate again using regular glue and careful use of liquid glue where it met the side panels. Once that had set enough to handle without causing things to shift, I used finger pressure and light doses of liquid glue along the top edges to get the plate edges to merge with the molded-on weld detail.

While all that was drying, I assembled the glacis plate along with the transmission and brake access hatches. These were all in the closed position since I don't have any interior to show off but have nice interior detail as well...the only drawback is that the transmission access plate fits a little loose in its position so careful alignment is called for to avoid one side having a larger gap than the other. I did not join the glacis to the superstructure as called for just yet...I will wait to do that until I'm ready to join the upper and lower hulls together to avoid any possible fit issues.

Rounding things out in the step, I installed the engine deck hatches, all in the closed position. The kit provides detail parts for the intake fans but those aren't needed unless that hatch is being displayed open, so they will end up in the spares bin.

Next up will be the fenders and the joining of the upper and lower hull together.

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 3:52 PM

Shellback

Hey guys many thanks for all of your support on my Light fix .It sure id great to be here with so many great model builders . Coming back to these forums has been very enjoyable .Beer

Glad you did bud. Enjoy your builds and your company. Cool

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 3:05 PM

Probably enough pics of the light . I was lppking at doing the same idea with the fender lights .

 Stik , it turned out better than i thought but it was a pinn in the prosterior holding that little thing while sanding the rear of it smooth .

WBill , you must have read my post before i edited out the question about the spotlight idea . I went back and looked at the position of the light and realized it was way down over the front drive mechanism . Thanks for answering my missing question .

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 2:53 PM

Believe it or not, that's the main headlight for the vehicle and not a spotlight. It was fixed and not movable. Additional headlights were mounted on the fenders giving it an unusal "trio" design that wasn't used on any later panzer designs.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 2:28 PM

Nice job on a simple materials improvement without AM cost!Yes

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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    March 2006
  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 1:49 PM

Shellback

Hey guys many thanks for all of your support on my Light fix .It sure id great to be here with so many great model builders . Coming back to these forums has been very enjoyable .Beer

And here's a pic of the little thing on the model .

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  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 1:46 PM

Hey guys many thanks for all of your support on my Light fix .It sure id great to be here with so many great model builders . Coming back to these forums has been very enjoyable .Beer

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  • From: Allentown, PA
Posted by BaBill212 on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 12:49 PM

Talking about rain,,,  we've had a year's worth in two months...  something like 30 inches since the beginning of August...    soggy indeed.

Carl,,    the antenna resolve looks good. AND, that lamp recovery is awesome...  great job!

AndyT,,   looks like you are honing the sillyputty mask,,  very nice. And making your own decals,, kudos,,  I have only made a few small ones where I needed them. Never had the nerve to make anything very intricate,, best of luck with it.

Chaz / Scott,,   Matilda start this weekend,,,  great!    Will be looking for some pics

Stik,,   the UE carrier, trailer and stowage are coming along nicely.    I like the idea of a bike in there too.. clever

Rob,,    I hope to be getting some updated pics loaded soon.   Again, glad the fireworks are over.

 

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 12:13 PM

tigerman

Not so sunny So. Cal. LOL

Indeed... it reminds me quite a bit of Ft Lewis today...UmbrellaWink 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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