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Big Beautiful Jugs - OFFICIAL P-47 GROUP BUILD

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Posted by oortiz10 on Saturday, February 25, 2012 2:33 PM

VS & Doogs,

Very nice work!  

Cheers,

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by Von Sisco on Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:01 AM

Doogs-That is a great looking trio! Bubbletops look sleek and fast, but the razorbacks look tough and ready for a fight. The Bug is very sharp, I like your OD mix.

Ed Sisco

On the bench: 1/48 Hobby Boss F3H-2 Demon & 1/48 Trumpeter F9F-2 Panther

On deck: 1/48 Grand Phoenix FJ-4 Fury double build

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:00 AM

Such wonderful work going on in this GB, i just have to get into this one if you will allow me DoogsEmbarrassed

My kit of choice would be the Revell of Germany P47D-25 in 1:72 scale. Built this kit four times now (for under 7 euro's you get sooo much bang for your buck; the ideal "quickie" kit IMHO) but i have never built the second painting option it offers which is in French markings.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, February 25, 2012 2:36 AM

Alright - I'm calling "The Bug" finished! Pics!

For kicks...a group shot:

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, February 25, 2012 2:33 AM

Von Sisco - Man, I'm digging the -N and the bubbletop - the latter is IMO probably the best kit boxed in 1/48, period (I say that after fit headaches with the Razorback's canopy). Well, along with the -M I guess.

 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Von Sisco on Friday, February 24, 2012 10:03 PM

Meanwhile, I have started on Patsy, and I really like this kit. Interior was painted Tamiya flat green with a touch of blue. I dry brushed the interior and used a Tamiya weathering kit. The fuselage halves are together and putty work should start shortly.

Basic painting of items:

 

Panels painted and weathered:

 

Cockpit assembled and pilot chillaxin'

 

 

More updates to come...

Ed Sisco

On the bench: 1/48 Hobby Boss F3H-2 Demon & 1/48 Trumpeter F9F-2 Panther

On deck: 1/48 Grand Phoenix FJ-4 Fury double build

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Posted by Von Sisco on Friday, February 24, 2012 9:29 PM

Hey everybody, finally got my computer set up so I can send you update pics of "Punkins." At the time of these pics she was ready for decals.

 

 

 

I applied the decals and did some mild weathering on her. If the weather is nice tomorrow, I will take some beauty shots.

Ed Sisco

On the bench: 1/48 Hobby Boss F3H-2 Demon & 1/48 Trumpeter F9F-2 Panther

On deck: 1/48 Grand Phoenix FJ-4 Fury double build

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, February 24, 2012 5:22 PM

That's just plain looking Bad A. Very Very Nice Doogs.

                                            Joe 

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Posted by Von Sisco on Friday, February 24, 2012 1:25 PM

The Bug is looking absolutely fantastic Doogs! I really like the rocket launchers under the wings!

Ed Sisco

On the bench: 1/48 Hobby Boss F3H-2 Demon & 1/48 Trumpeter F9F-2 Panther

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, February 24, 2012 11:25 AM

Getting really close now. I anticipate finishing touches tonight...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by oortiz10 on Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:22 PM

JOE RIX

O - Booyah!! That there is an excellent build. Interesting technique for your NMF. I was figuring on starting out with the Alclad white primer also. Seems as though the black can be a bit difficult. So. how well did your white primer go on?

 

Joe,

This is actually the first build I tried the white primer on.  It takes some getting used to.  If the distance from your airbrush is too great, or the pressure's too high, it's easy to end up with a grainy finish or puddles/runs.  Not ideal for a NMF.  However, if you can get all the variables nailed down, the stuff lays down butter smooth and rock hard.  There were a couple of spots that I had to go back and sand down (some grain and minor drips caused by my lack of experience), but the stuff feathered out nicely.  Can't tell at all under the paint.  

I've heard horror stories about Alclad's black stuff, but I didn't have any of the problems associated with that stuff.  The white dries quickly, smooth as a baby's bottom, and hard as stone...assuming you do everything right.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for lookin' and the kudos!

-O

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:37 PM

panzerpilot

Hey Doogs (or anyone else):

What is your opinion on coating an M with NMF, then the blues and greys, etc? Would this be a waste of time? I've never heard of anyone trying that.

That's exactly how I would do it. Though...especially if I were doing one of the camo ones, I'd leave the NMF patchy over black anywhere the camo would be going. I have a feeling preshade efforts would be especially effective on those blue/blue schemes.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:24 PM

Hey Doogs (or anyone else):

What is your opinion on coating an M with NMF, then the blues and greys, etc? Would this be a waste of time? I've never heard of anyone trying that.

Also. I just took a look at the trumpeter site and their 1/32 P-47s. The rivet and engine detail is amazing! Kinda has me thinking of doing one of their D's someday. I coated "jabo" with the Alclad Gloss clear night before last. That stuff sure is nice! I also got some Alclad SS, which tested as a very nice finish. Not nearly as dark as their Steel. Will look nice on the long belly panels and around the turbocharger panel. That, then on the decals in the next few days.

-Tom

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Posted by ww2psycho on Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:56 PM

Worked on the pit a bit more, should be done this weekend. My new computer comes today, try getting pics this weekend.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:08 AM

randypandy831

is the top side of the 47M black or insignia blue? 

Depends on the one you're doing, since there were at least three schemes:

1 - Dark Green/Medium Sea Gray over NMF

2 - Dark Blue/Light Blue over NMF (exact blues is debated)

3 - Black over NMF. But from what I understand it wasn't perfectly black. Since the 56th made heavy use of British paint stocks, I wonder if this wasn't something like the blue-black used on Brit armor?

All of them had the -M characteristic NMF leading edges on the wings, stabs and rudder.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by randypandy831 on Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:50 AM

is the top side of the 47M black or insignia blue? 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:21 AM

Yeah but I hear baby bombs grow up into BIG EXPLOSIONS!!!

Joe: Thanks! Looking forward to seeing more of 'Eight Nifties'. I looked up the decal sheet and love it, I need another P-47 decal sheet like I need another hole in the head but I'll probably end up picking up the sheet anyway sometime in the future.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:59 AM

 WOw, You step away from the thread for a couple of days and there is a flurry of really outstanding work when you come back. Everybody is turning out some truely awe inspiring Jugs.

 Doogs and Satch - Both of those Razorbacks sweet. Very nice mask job there Doogs.

Wabash - Nice start on the "N". Looking forward to following your progress as I got one of those for x-mas.

O - Booyah!! That there is an excellent build. Interesting technique for your NMF. I was figuring on starting out with the Alclad white primer also. Seems as though the black can be a bit difficult. So. how well did your white primer go on?

Gamera - Yeah, hang in there. I had a moment of dispare when my fuselage halves cross diambulated. Yet, I just stepped away for awhile, considered my options, took it to task and things came out alright and my enthusiasm was restored.

As far as "Eight Nifties" goes, some slow but steady progress. getting the wings assembled and the gear bays are painted (Tamiya Green-Yellow) and detailed. I'd like to hope I could get the wings and tail on this weekend but I have an obligation on Sat. and then of course the Daytona 500 on Sun,

                                                                   Joe

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:17 PM

DoogsATX

 

 panzerpilot:

 

Thanks guys..

I 'almost' didn't use the decals, as many of the pics I've seen didn't have any yellow stripes, except for around the nose.

Looking forward to your pics, Ed!

 

 

I'm going to try painting the splodey-things yellow, the masking the stripes on my Revellogram. We'll see. Still wish someone made the clusterbomb setup. Ton of work, but how awesome would this look?

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s164/latormentabritanica/bomb2.jpg

BABY BOMBS!!!

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:12 PM

DoogsATX

 panzerpilot:

Thanks guys..

I 'almost' didn't use the decals, as many of the pics I've seen didn't have any yellow stripes, except for around the nose.

Looking forward to your pics, Ed!

 

I'm going to try painting the splodey-things yellow, the masking the stripes on my Revellogram. We'll see. Still wish someone made the clusterbomb setup. Ton of work, but how awesome would this look?

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s164/latormentabritanica/bomb2.jpg

Ohhhhhhhhh, like eight fifty cal machine guns weren't awesome enough!

I've toyed with doing the three bazooka mount on each wing but haven't seen many photos of P-47s with them so I'm not sure how often they were used. But they look totally brutal.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:30 PM

panzerpilot

Thanks guys..

I 'almost' didn't use the decals, as many of the pics I've seen didn't have any yellow stripes, except for around the nose.

Looking forward to your pics, Ed!

I'm going to try painting the splodey-things yellow, the masking the stripes on my Revellogram. We'll see. Still wish someone made the clusterbomb setup. Ton of work, but how awesome would this look?

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by panzerpilot on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:21 PM

Thanks guys..

I 'almost' didn't use the decals, as many of the pics I've seen didn't have any yellow stripes, except for around the nose.

Looking forward to your pics, Ed!

-Tom

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Posted by Von Sisco on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:05 PM

Tom-The bombs look VERY realistic, I'm gonna steal, I mean, liberate that idea for mine! I "chipped" mine the last time, but looking back I don't feel it is very realistic. Maybe on the fins where they banged around on the cart. Anyway, great work.

I finally got a new laptop and should be posting progress this weekend. As I said before, Some Punkins is done and I have moved on to Patsy. I'm lovin' the Tamiya kit! See y'all soon-

 

 

Ed Sisco

On the bench: 1/48 Hobby Boss F3H-2 Demon & 1/48 Trumpeter F9F-2 Panther

On deck: 1/48 Grand Phoenix FJ-4 Fury double build

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:49 AM

Tom,

Those bombs look sharp, I have to admit I tend just to paint them OD green and that's pretty much it. I suppose if you're going to detail up the plane you need to do the stuff hanging off the wing too. Good show!

Vance,

Seems to have taken care of the problem, didn't sand down enough to get rid of all the cracking so I'm going to have to repaint them yet again but at least I'm now on the right track.

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:27 PM

Omar and Doogs, you are both definitely building to high standards!

John

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Posted by panzerpilot on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:19 PM

Bombs..

I painted them with MM OD, misted with MM "faded OD", then brushed with Burnt Umber oil.

-Tom

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Posted by Von Sisco on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:41 AM

O-Fantastic work, I really like your paint and detail work.

satch-Coming along very nice!

Doogs-"The Bug" looks awesome! Your pic taken with your phone looks great!

Ed Sisco

On the bench: 1/48 Hobby Boss F3H-2 Demon & 1/48 Trumpeter F9F-2 Panther

On deck: 1/48 Grand Phoenix FJ-4 Fury double build

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Posted by oortiz10 on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:13 AM

Thanks for the kudos everyone.  I'm glad you like 'er.  She provided some good overall skills practice.  

 

panzerpilot
 

What did you use for the panel lines and overall weathering? Is that a bottle of Flory black, about halfway down?

Tom, the weathering started out as an experiment.  I first sprayed the whole airframe with Alclad's micofiller white primer, then followed that with Alclad's White Aluminum.  Next, I used gloss black from Testors' little square bottles and shaded some panel lines.  Then I used various shades of White Aluminum mixed with different amounts of Alclad Steel to cover the panel lines and fill in the panels.  And talk about eagle eyed, yes, that's Promodeller...er...Flory's wash on my desk.  I mixed up a dark grey for the panel lines.  Streaking and staining were done with pastels and ink.

Again, thanks for lookin'!

-O

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:37 AM

VanceCrozier

 Gamera:

... and the paint cracked like crazy once it dried. Guess I'll have to sand the whole thing down and hope it doesn't happen again. I think it's the low humidity and the paint is drying too fast or some such....

 

If your conditions remain similar, you may be able to use the same paint mix, but build up the colour in several mist coats to avoid the cracking....

Vance- thanks!

Sounds like a good idea, I only have the cracking on light colours- I'm thinking it may be a result of spraying them heavier than I would a dark paint. I was thinking of mixing a little retarder into the paint hoping that if it dries slower I won't get the cracking. Still I don't think I can go wrong with a few extra mist coats either.

 

Doogs: I am going to start called you- The Jugmaster.... Wink

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:01 AM

Gamera

... and the paint cracked like crazy once it dried. Guess I'll have to sand the whole thing down and hope it doesn't happen again. I think it's the low humidity and the paint is drying too fast or some such....

If your conditions remain similar, you may be able to use the same paint mix, but build up the colour in several mist coats to avoid the cracking....

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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