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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:05 PM

Scorpiomikey

Mig does make some pretty aircraft. But they released a prototype that got outstripped by the Mig-21. The Mig-21 was developed from the Ye-5. But at the airshow that it was shown off at they also showed off its sister. The Ye-2A Faceplate. Which i thought was much nicer looking.

Theres a good page on it all here.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Icho/3902/jf/jf_e_russia.html

Beauty, note the area rule was actually more prominent than on the MiG-21...

thanks for the pic and the link Mikey...

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:11 PM

Nice start Mikey:

always loved the Skyhawk,

I have a couple parked out on my back ramp.

Ever since I brought home the Mig-17, i haven't had much time to fly them...LOL...

I have a 1/48 Hump-Back buried somewhere in the stacks, a really old Monogram.

My only disappointment with it was that it looked supersonic. It was a true workhorse,

I've heard it actually delivered more ordnance for the Navy during the Vietnam war

than any other Navy aircraft, which reminds me, where's Tarnship?.....lol

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:24 AM

Comrades:

SU Flagon:

Nice 'Bad Guy', ehhhhh????...lol

Dom

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:28 AM

The skyhawk was the primary fighter for the RNZAF since 1969 to 2001 i think. (somewhere round there anyway) When they were taken out of service they were the most advanced skyhawks on the planet. If sources are correct, the remaining non museum piece aircraft have been sold to a group in florida as aggressor aircraft for the topgun school. The most obvious enhancement to the K models was the cockpit.

Standard scooter cockpit on the left. K model on the right.

The aircraft im doing though (havent decided on which exact aircraft yet) is this one though.

Which is pre Kahu upgrade so it still has the hump and original cockpit.

Ill probably be modelling 08 which was the first to do arrester gear landings in new zealand. It also had an unfortunate accident.

And hook landing.

  

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:20 AM

Bockscar

Gosh Ken;

Love those planes, I found a very cheap MiG 17 in China,,,,,had to fly it home myself

with minimal training......almost go shot down over Alaska.......LMAO......

A deadly battle-proven machine.

Dom

So the movie 'Firefox' was based on you Dom? I always figured you look a lot like Clint Eastwood. Wink

Last night I painted a couple of gaming figures, slapped a few decals on a Tamiya P-47D, and did some sanding and built a few missiles for an old Revell MiG-25. 

ScorpyMike: Nice looking work on the A-4, I hadn't seen many photos of the NZ ultimate Skyhawk, cool plane! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:33 AM

Yeh the Stuka was one of the meanest looking birds of WWII..  I had one way back when I was a member of the Young Modeler's Club as a kid.  That was my  first attempt at Camo painting.  It came out looking like a Picaso version of a duck, but it was a fun build.  I just found and started an old 1/48 BAE Hawk.  The Red arrows kit.  Not the Airfix kit, some off brand.  The whole thing is molded in red, which is making painting fun...

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

mikeymize

Son Of Medicine Man

So where is everybody tonight?

 I'm here Ken, just doing some research on my latest project. As I believe I mentioned earlier it's one of my favorite parts of the building process. I'm taking my time with this one. Have just finished painting the cockpit RLM 02 and put some shadows in the recessed areas with a light wash. I also got  the Eduard PE but it's for the Hasegawa kit. I had it in my box so I figured I'd just use what I could rather than spring for a new one. (If they even make one). Anyway, I'll post pics along the way just for kicks. BTW the Mushroom Models book on this plane is awesome!

Very cool Mike M.  I really like the Ju87 Stuka!  Just a mean looking plane!  I have a Revell 1/48 in my stash.  I will keep that book in mind when i go to build it. I too really enjoy the research part of the build process.

Ken

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:52 AM

The Flagon is one scary looking bird.  and Dom, Read your email... :)  I get worried when I don't hear from ya in a while. 

Bockscar

Comrades:

SU Flagon:

Nice 'Bad Guy', ehhhhh????...lol

Dom

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:54 AM

Man I wonder how that happened.  Too close to the hangars to be a landing gone bad, I think...  I bet the pilot was worried they would take it out of his pay.. lol

Rich

Scorpiomikey

Ill probably be modelling 08 which was the first to do arrester gear landings in new zealand. It also had an unfortunate accident.

And hook landing.


 

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:25 PM

Not 100% sure what happened, but all the reports say it retracted on startup.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:21 PM

Gamera

Bockscar

Gosh Ken;

Love those planes, I found a very cheap MiG 17 in China,,,,,had to fly it home myself

with minimal training......almost go shot down over Alaska.......LMAO......

A deadly battle-proven machine.

Dom

So the movie 'Firefox' was based on you Dom? I always figured you look a lot like Clint Eastwood. Wink

Last night I painted a couple of gaming figures, slapped a few decals on a Tamiya P-47D, and did some sanding and built a few missiles for an old Revell MiG-25. 

ScorpyMike: Nice looking work on the A-4, I hadn't seen many photos of the NZ ultimate Skyhawk, cool plane! 

Shsssssh......

Clint always resented that the film was based on meWhisper.......LOL

Dom

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:31 PM

Bockscar

Gamera

Bockscar

Gosh Ken;

Love those planes, I found a very cheap MiG 17 in China,,,,,had to fly it home myself

with minimal training......almost go shot down over Alaska.......LMAO......

A deadly battle-proven machine.

Dom

So the movie 'Firefox' was based on you Dom? I always figured you look a lot like Clint Eastwood. Wink

Last night I painted a couple of gaming figures, slapped a few decals on a Tamiya P-47D, and did some sanding and built a few missiles for an old Revell MiG-25. 

ScorpyMike: Nice looking work on the A-4, I hadn't seen many photos of the NZ ultimate Skyhawk, cool plane! 

I bet you need a triple car garage to hold the Firefox. lol
BTW. Did you get your package yet? 

Shsssssh......

Clint always resented that the film was based on meWhisper.......LOL

Dom

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:34 PM

Hmmm.  Last message didn't work.

I bet you needed a triple car garage to hold the Firefix.  And I bet cutting a big set of slices for the vertical stabilizers was a pain in the backend.. lol

BTW, Did your package arrive yet? 

Bockscar

Gamera

Bockscar

Gosh Ken;

Love those planes, I found a very cheap MiG 17 in China,,,,,had to fly it home myself

with minimal training......almost go shot down over Alaska.......LMAO......

A deadly battle-proven machine.

Dom

So the movie 'Firefox' was based on you Dom? I always figured you look a lot like Clint Eastwood. Wink

Last night I painted a couple of gaming figures, slapped a few decals on a Tamiya P-47D, and did some sanding and built a few missiles for an old Revell MiG-25. 

ScorpyMike: Nice looking work on the A-4, I hadn't seen many photos of the NZ ultimate Skyhawk, cool plane! 

Shsssssh......

Clint always resented that the film was based on meWhisper.......LOL

Dom

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:44 PM

Rich;

As a paratrooper, you can completely appreciate:

cutting mission critical components out of stock

materials just before ingression into enemy territory can

add a bit of task overload.

Yeah, the MiGs landed safely, as I also

had to fly a companion bird remotely, Phew!

We landed on a huge cardboard runway,

with peanuts smacking off've our canopies,

very technical landing, but I got them down,

and onto the stacks....LOL

Kicked my Rolls, Mercedes, Maserati,

Porches, Lincolns, Caddies, and

BMW-Shopping Carts, out of the garage,

ran out of "Agent-Orange" to clean the suckers off.

Dom

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:55 PM

L*M*F*A*O!!!!!

(Insert of large object hitting the pavement....)

RIch

Bockscar

Rich;

As a paratrooper, you can completely appreciate:

cutting mission critical components out of stock

materials just before ingression into enemy territory can

add a bit of task overload.

Yeah, the MiGs landed safely, as I also

had to fly a companion bird remotely, Phew!

We landed on a huge cardboard runway,

with peanuts smacking off've our canopies,

very technical landing, but I got them down,

and onto the stacks....LOL

Kicked my Rolls, Mercedes, Maserati,

Porches, Lincolns, Caddies, and

BMW-Shopping Carts, out of the garage,

ran out of "Agent-Orange" to clean the suckers off.

Dom

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:02 PM

Dang Mikey:

Thanks for the snaps!!Yes

love that bird!

Dom

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:09 PM

No worries, the skyhawks one of my least favourite aircraft, probably because ive been surrounded by them all my life. This will be the second one ive built.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:20 PM

If you like the skyhawk. Check these out.

Every livery we flew them in except for the last one which was overall forrest green.

What happens when they decide to aquaplane.

And what happens when you leave the parking break on.

The Strikemasters farewell party. We now have a blunty flying in NZ again.

RAAF and RNZAF in formation.

An example of our low flying.

Fuel indicator showed empty, pilot panicked. landed heavy. main gear collapse.

A completley empty aircraft (No engine or avionics and empty fuel tanks) one of the guys cleaning the aircraft walked too close to the edge of the wing. Now thats a light aircraft.

Formation flying while inflight refueling. Shows both the New (Forest/Puke green scheme) and the old (Lizard) scheme.

All these photos and more can be found at http://a4-alley.x90x.net

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:06 PM

Scorpiomikey

If you like the skyhawk. Check these out.

Every livery we flew them in except for the last one which was overall forrest green.

What happens when they decide to aquaplane.

And what happens when you leave the parking break on.

The Strikemasters farewell party. We now have a blunty flying in NZ again.

RAAF and RNZAF in formation.

An example of our low flying.

Fuel indicator showed empty, pilot panicked. landed heavy. main gear collapse.

A completley empty aircraft (No engine or avionics and empty fuel tanks) one of the guys cleaning the aircraft walked too close to the edge of the wing. Now thats a light aircraft.

Formation flying while inflight refueling. Shows both the New (Forest/Puke green scheme) and the old (Lizard) scheme.

All these photos and more can be found at http://a4-alley.x90x.net

Gosh Mikey!!

You've renewed my confidence in my career!!!

Shiiiishhhh.....

I never crashed anything like that...lol...

I'm unsophisticated on the evolutions, the square-tail is later, i assume?

Dom

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:19 PM

The square tail is how we got them. If i remember rightly they were originally modified E's or maybe F's i cant quite remember. But the squared off tail was to accommodate the IFF antenna.

They were classed as A-4K's from the day we bought them to designate "Kiwi" Just like Kuwait got A-4KU's.

When they were disbanded in 2001 there were rumours of a buyer in the states, but the american DoD didnt want them sold to a private firm because of the technology that was in them. The cockpits had basically an F-16 cockpit smooshed into them. It also had a few other bits and bobs the kiwis had added over the years that the DoD wasnt all that happy about falling into civilian hands.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:32 PM

Or Maybe ILS, im not 100% sure. Sorry.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:24 PM

Scorpiomikey

Or Maybe ILS, im not 100% sure. Sorry.

Mikey;

No worries on the details mate,

Many thanks for all of that great info, and fab pics,YesYes

Dom

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:31 PM

No worries, Oh and the little horizontal fins on the vertical stabiliser are there because when they took the hump off it messed with the aerodynamics, so they fixed it with the tiny fins.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:56 PM

Soviet influence?

lol

Yeah, figures Americans could put a huge hump like that on

an aeroplane, and improve it's statistics...LOL

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:03 PM

Scorpiomikey

No worries, Oh and the little horizontal fins on the vertical stabiliser are there because when they took the hump off it messed with the aerodynamics, so they fixed it with the tiny fins.

Scorpio Mike,

It is obvious you know quite a bit about the Skyhawk!  Thank you for sharing that with us!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:05 PM

Bockscar

Soviet influence?

lol

Yeah, figures Americans could put a huge hump like that on

an aeroplane, and improve it's statistics...LOL

Dom

Dom,

It is hard to keep up with your posts!  You are just too funny man!  You can make me laugh even on my worst day.  Big Smile  Thank you for that!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:09 PM

Gamera

Bockscar

Gosh Ken;

Love those planes, I found a very cheap MiG 17 in China,,,,,had to fly it home myself

with minimal training......almost go shot down over Alaska.......LMAO......

A deadly battle-proven machine.

Dom

So the movie 'Firefox' was based on you Dom? I always figured you look a lot like Clint Eastwood. Wink

Last night I painted a couple of gaming figures, slapped a few decals on a Tamiya P-47D, and did some sanding and built a few missiles for an old Revell MiG-25. 

ScorpyMike: Nice looking work on the A-4, I hadn't seen many photos of the NZ ultimate Skyhawk, cool plane! 

Hi Cliff,

If you get a chance, can you post some pictures?  I really enjoyed those pictures of your P-40!!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:19 PM

Hi Everyone,

Tonight I picked up our new stove.  It took a week longer for it to arrive than originally forecasted.  It took most of the evening just getting to the store, loading it on the truck, bringing it home, getting the ramps and the two wheel cart out of the shed, getting it out of the truck and into the house, putting the ramps and cart away, and then unpacking the stove.  On top of all that I had to stop by my Mom's house to take care of a few things.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:22 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Bockscar

Gosh Ken;

Love those planes, I found a very cheap MiG 17 in China,,,,,had to fly it home myself

with minimal training......almost go shot down over Alaska.......LMAO......

A deadly battle-proven machine.

Dom

So the movie 'Firefox' was based on you Dom? I always figured you look a lot like Clint Eastwood. Wink

Last night I painted a couple of gaming figures, slapped a few decals on a Tamiya P-47D, and did some sanding and built a few missiles for an old Revell MiG-25. 

ScorpyMike: Nice looking work on the A-4, I hadn't seen many photos of the NZ ultimate Skyhawk, cool plane! 

Hi Cliff,

If you get a chance, can you post some pictures?  I really enjoyed those pictures of your P-40!!

Ken

KeN:

You will be vastly disappointed in the promo marketing, as i never flew the P-40,

and they always forgot to cut-n-paste may face into those Claire Chennault  photos.....!!!

Dang, my media people, never get me out there enough...LOL

dom......dang....

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:22 PM

Gents:

Don't worry about keeping up, i am swamped, spent 2 hours helping MIL

tonight, and back at it tomorrow.....

Ken, only kidding....lol......

I wouldn't know a P-40 if Claire slapped me upside the head with it.....

but i recognize Glenn Curtiss....

Dom

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:22 AM

Dude, i wouldnt recognise anything if i got smacked in the head with it. Itd just be a case of "WTF was that?"

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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