I will. But his stories seem to jump alot. He tends to embellish alot, which makes it hard to distinguish between dads memories and his fantasies. 

Scorpiomikey

I will. But his stories seem to jump alot. He tends to embellish alot, which makes it hard to distinguish between dads memories and his fantasies. 

I thought that my Dad was embellishing some of his stories until I got a hold of his service files from the Air Force.  Now I know better.  But you know more about your situation and family than anyone else here.  This is getting really personal, so I don't want to get any further into it on an open forum.

Ken

Ken, Mikey;

You'll never get it all guys, and be thankful, as I know you are, for what you got.

Outa hi-school my dad got a job calibrating pipeline and storage tank gauges for BP's oilfields in Trinidad. By 1943, he wanted to go to England and serve, but he had already been working in the oilfields a few years, and the Brits, they said no, keep the oil flowing, we are not going to waste time finding someone to replace you. Good thing for me. My first job in a big company, he got me, I calibrated meters for the Gas Association. Wonder why.....

Some of the stuff he told me, I only wish he was embellishing. These guys went through some very rough times, nothing I have yet seen. Upside...my dad never saw or understood unemployment.

Mikey, Ken's right......take it all in, record it if you have to.....it will all be over sooner than you want........

All the best man.....and peace to your dad. Enjoy his company while you can.

Yeah, my late uncle served in the US Navy during the Second World War, was always interested but he never talked about it and I never knew any tackful way to bring it up

The only thing that keeps me sane is the knowledge that I was adopted, and have absolutely no genetic relation to my Dad.  I have no idea who my real dad was, just some very basic info on him.  My adopted dad was stationed in Japan during the Korean war.  He was only a PFC, and got himself a general discharge when he refused to shoot an escaping North Korean prisoner.  The only reason he could hold a job was because he became a mail handler at the USPS South Boston postal Sorting Facility in Boston and it's almost impossible to get fired from the Post Office.  He was  a jerk most of the time.  I don't even like thinking about him...

Sometimes it's better not to know some things...

Rich

Bockscar

Ken, Mikey;

You'll never get it all guys, and be thankful, as I know you are, for what you got.

Outa hi-school my dad got a job calibrating pipeline and storage tank gauges for BP's oilfields in Trinidad. By 1943, he wanted to go to England and serve, but he had already been working in the oilfields a few years, and the Brits, they said no, keep the oil flowing, we are not going to waste time finding someone to replace you. Good thing for me. My first job in a big company, he got me, I calibrated meters for the Gas Association. Wonder why.....

Some of the stuff he told me, I only wish he was embellishing. These guys went through some very rough times, nothing I have yet seen. Upside...my dad never saw or understood unemployment.

Mikey, Ken's right......take it all in, record it if you have to.....it will all be over sooner than you want........

All the best man.....and peace to your dad. Enjoy his company while you can.

Voodoos are cool.  I have a half completed one here.  I really should complete it.  I work on it a little at a time.  The F101s are a set of birds that you don't hear much about, but they were really great birds.

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

Voodoos!!!  I just love the look of Voodoos.  Okay, it is rather obvious from my avatar.  The RF-101C is my favorite version.  I am uploading photos to Photobucket right now.  As soon as it finishes, I will show you some that my Dad took.

Ken

Is that a B57 in the background?

Son Of Medicine Man

Okay, here is one my Dad took a picture of getting ready to take off from Tan Son Nhut Air Base, Vietnam, circa September 1964:

 

Ken

Yeh, the cold war birds were unique.  Back when the Government could afford a decent size amount of them.  Now a few billion into ONE plane...  I think now, if the cold war were still on, or if Russia ever went bad again and attacked.  Even if it  didn't go nuclear, we would be in trouble if they got back to their old wartime production by some miracle.  Yeh we have the F22 and F35, as well as all of the older types.  But by sheer weight of numbers....  You get the idea.

The Cold War birds were functional and for the most part affordable.  Not to mention that most of them were just cool...

Rich

Bockscar

Oh yeah?

F-100, shot down or injested birds. Oh, a bomber. Destroyed some SAM's, not enough though...next

F-101, an excuse to keep aluminum flying, recon? For Chuck Norris? made great bird shelters...suckered Canada into buying them......next

F-102, so bad, they redesigned it, not even a bomber....next

F-103, fake Regulus, what F-103?....next

F-104, hemmmorroid relief, widow maker, runway flamethrower, destroyer of governments. Kelly still has a red face....and ugly.......lol....mighta' made a good toothpick......

F-105, never dropped nukes, over half the run shot down, oh, a bomber.....dang....shot down a russian by accident, right?....next

F-106, never did nothin', not even a bomber......uhhhh....musta dun sumpin?....next

F-107, what F-107????....next

LOL........what a waste of time, titanium, and aluminum...

Oh yeah, the flying sewer plate, F-4....lol....now there's an airplane!....er...bus.....

 

How ugly is that? At least Crusader shot commies into the smokin' hole they deserved....lol...

Crusader told the Pres the commies were getting close to vaporizing NY, I hope you love NY,,,,,lol,,,,,,,,

So tell me, why do I have a valid reason to love all that early, slow, dysfunctional junk???????....lol.....

What speed, what function?

Well,truth is, all that dysfunctional aluminum, it kept our a**** safe. And yes, they were indeed fast. But the only reason they made them Rich, wasn't to thwart the proto commies, or waste tax-payor's dollars, no Sir.

It was so i could collect the styrene versions....lol.....

Truth is, IMHO, that was the most exceptional series of aircraft that ever flew. I love 'em.

I dunno, I have a soft spot for the Cold War craft, and the Cold War spirit.

I rant, because commies are cool up here....lol......

 

 

 

Hello, Everyone,

I would like to join the build and honor Berny's memory. I'll be away overseas for a few weeks on vacation but will try to log in when I can get internet access. I plan to build a 1/72 scale F-105 wild weasel if I can get my hands one. Otherwise, I'll resurect an FB -111 that I started many years ago. Looking forward to getting to know all of you and learning a lot from you, especially about spray painting which I've not got into yet.

Cheers,

Striker

Striker8241

Hello, Everyone,

I would like to join the build and honor Berny's memory. I'll be away overseas for a few weeks on vacation but will try to log in when I can get internet access. I plan to build a 1/72 scale F-105 wild weasel if I can get my hands one. Otherwise, I'll resurect an FB -111 that I started many years ago. Looking forward to getting to know all of you and learning a lot from you, especially about spray painting which I've not got into yet.

Cheers,

Striker

Welcome aboard Striker!  I have already been telling everyone to be expecting you and they have all been very happy to hear about you joining us.  I will wait until you decide which one you will be building then I will update page 1.  Again, welcome aboard!

Ken

Sparrowhyperion

Is that a B57 in the background?

 

Son Of Medicine Man:

Okay, here is one my Dad took a picture of getting ready to take off from Tan Son Nhut Air Base, Vietnam, circa September 1964:

 

Ken

 

Hi Rich,

Actually you are close.  That is an RB-57E, one of the two "Patricia Lynn" project aircraft!

Ken

Yeh, the engine nacelles are unmistakable for the B57 series.  I have been trying to find a larger than 1/72 kit of the English Canberra for ages.  The only 1/48 ones I see are that expensive Airfix kit.  I have the Revell (sort of close to..) 1/82 scale one, but it's just way too small, and I am torn between selling it or giving it to my Daughter.  I remember the first time I saw a Canberra.  I was like 6 years old, and saw one in an old horror movie (The Crawling Eye).   I thought it was one of the coolest planes I had seen up until that time.  But my LHS didn't ever seem to have it.  I kind of liked the side by side seating in the older RAF versions a bit more than the inline system the Martin versions used.   I just think it made the plane look more like the bomber it was designed to be initially.

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

 

Sparrowhyperion:

 

Is that a B57 in the background?

 

 

Son Of Medicine Man:

Okay, here is one my Dad took a picture of getting ready to take off from Tan Son Nhut Air Base, Vietnam, circa September 1964:

 

Ken

 

 

 

 

Hi Rich,

Actually you are close.  That is an RB-57E, one of the two "Patricia Lynn" project aircraft!

Ken

I'm not sure if you guys know about this site, but I just found this awesome little website that has all kinds of info on just about every major combat aircraft ever made.  Here is the URL....

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/index.asp

Check it out.

Rich

Hi Everyone,

I can't believe it!  I just found a picture of a plane from one of my Dad's squadrons, "The Cotton Pickers".  I have looked before and it wasn't there the last time I looked so someone has uploaded it since then.  Here it is:

I have to do this aircraft.  No execuses!

Ken

Striker8241

Hello, Everyone,

I would like to join the build and honor Berny's memory. I'll be away overseas for a few weeks on vacation but will try to log in when I can get internet access. I plan to build a 1/72 scale F-105 wild weasel if I can get my hands one. Otherwise, I'll resurect an FB -111 that I started many years ago. Looking forward to getting to know all of you and learning a lot from you, especially about spray painting which I've not got into yet.

Cheers,

Striker

The thing about this thread that Voodoo Ken started, is that it is all about remembering real people.

Berny was a guy that represented so much of the common values of so many that served and the society whom supported those values....

Not as common values these days, but many have them thank Gosh, and a good part of society still knows it is the most worthwhile pursuit.

Not pulling out a violin, but fact is they are the people and ideas I grew up with, same for the guys here.

F-105 Wild Weasel is a great start. I like it for nothingwlse, at the very least other than it put a lot of Russian radar and SAM operators into a very awkward place:

"All dressed up, no where to go!!!!"....lol...

My second favourite airplane.

Hey we would love the pics of your WIP if you have the time and inclination.

-Dom

Ken:

VERY COOL!

I wish I had that in 1/32!

Bockscar

Ken:

VERY COOL!

I wish I had that in 1/32!

Now that would be cool!  I still can't get over finding this picture.  It just blows me away!  The caption under the picture said it was from Kadena Okinawa 1960.  I recognized the tail right off from one of his patches which is the insignia of The Cotton Pickers.  I am on my laptop right now so when I get back on regular desktop I will up load a picture of the patch.  I am on cloud nine right now!

Ken

Hello Striker and welcome!

Looking forward to either the F-105 or the FB-111.

Cliff

BTW guys: The A-20 is basically done. That is the friggin' spine cracked open on me again when installing the window behind the dorsal turret. That's it, I'm not fixing it again, far as I'm concerned stick a fork in the thing. Now though the friggin' top of the canopy has vanished - so I'm setting the model till it turns up. 

Yeah Ken, keep us posted....

The Hasegawa 1/72 was my only kit for awhile back in the early 70's, it was the first modern tooled kit I had ever seen. Built it as an after school project, while we waited for the bus.....to take me home.....country road.....lol

My cousin in-law flew the Canadian NORAD version.

Gamera

Hello Striker and welcome!

Looking forward to either the F-105 or the FB-111.

Cliff

 

BTW guys: The A-20 is basically done. That is the friggin' spine cracked open on me again when installing the window behind the dorsal turret. That's it, I'm not fixing it again, far as I'm concerned stick a fork in the thing. Now though the friggin' top of the canopy has vanished - so I'm setting the model till it turns up. 

Cliff,

Man, that totally blows.  Sorry to hear that.  That has to be upsetting.  And the reviews I read about that kit talked about how well it went together.  So much for that.

Ken

Gamera

Hello Striker and welcome!

Looking forward to either the F-105 or the FB-111.

Cliff

BTW guys: The A-20 is basically done. That is the friggin' spine cracked open on me again when installing the window behind the dorsal turret. That's it, I'm not fixing it again, far as I'm concerned stick a fork in the thing. Now though the friggin' top of the canopy has vanished - so I'm setting the model till it turns up. 

By way you could put some styrene patches over the inside seam to keep the halves together? Ahhh....with out ripping it in two.....

Thanks, it's not that big a crack, enough a judge will toss it aside at a show but not big enough most people will notice, still it's aggravating.

And the canopy top will show up, it's just a matter of time till it will, just saw it three or so days ago so I don't know where it could have got off to.

Bockscar

Yeah Ken, keep us posted....

The Hasegawa 1/72 was my only kit for awhile back in the early 70's, it was the first modern tooled kit I had ever seen. Built it as an after school project, while we waited for the bus.....to take me home.....country road.....lol

My cousin in-law flew the Canadian NORAD version.

Hi Dom,

I have both the C&H Aero resin RF-101C conversion kit and the Koster Aero Enterprise vacu-form RF-101C conversion kit for the Revell 1/48 F-101B kit.  So I am already set to build a 1/48 RF-101C.  But like you said, a 1/32 scale kit would be great.

Ken

Hey Rich:

Is that F-20 the Mono?...sorry if I missed that.....

Dom

Son Of Medicine Man

 

Bockscar:

 

Yeah Ken, keep us posted....

The Hasegawa 1/72 was my only kit for awhile back in the early 70's, it was the first modern tooled kit I had ever seen. Built it as an after school project, while we waited for the bus.....to take me home.....country road.....lol

My cousin in-law flew the Canadian NORAD version.

 

 

Hi Dom,

I have both the C&H Aero resin RF-101C conversion kit and the Koster Aero Enterprise vacu-form RF-101C conversion kit for the Revell 1/48 F-101B kit.  So I am already set to build a 1/48 RF-101C.  But like you said, a 1/32 scale kit would be great.

Ken

I have this one:

http://www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=4875&page=2&searchtext=voodoo

It is pretty good for big-scale vac.

My first task is tot cut the bulk-head spars, and an internal template for the wings. On the Voodoo, as in many 100 series, they are straight across.

No where near actually starting it....I keep hoping that Trumpeter puts one out......lol.....

Dom

FSM has been showing this babe:

Not bad.....uhhhh.....where that piggy bank go.....lol....

Bockscar

 

Sparrowhyperion:

 

The F100 used the P&W J57-P-7 Engine.  Maxing at about 17000lbs of thrust.  The F104 used GE J79-GE-11A turbo Jet engine, which put out only about 15,800lbs of thrust.  But the lesser drag on the aircraft in addition to the difference in weight (Over 7000lbs.) made the F104 seem a lot more powerful, even given it's smaller power plant.

The original F5 series planes used a set of GE J85-GE21 Turbo Jet engines.  Each putting out 5000lbs. of thrust for a total of 10,000lbs with slight improvements until the F5E Tiger II.  There weren't a lot of major differences between the earlier versions.  The F5G also known as the F20 Tigershark, had the F404-GE-100 Turbo Jet Engine which produced a 17,000lbs of thrust and was afterburner capable.  It came out a bit late to survive on US sales only.  While a great little fighter with some light ground attack capabilities, planes like the F16 and F18 had already made it obsolete when it was designed.  The main issue being the small weapons load it was capable of carrying due to it's small light airframe.

I have the canopy hardware installed.  Now all I have to do is install the canopy, fill gaps, prime, paint, and decal.  The landing gear bays on this one are not really accurate, so I am considering doing it wheels up...

I've been a busy bee this last weekend.  My Sister in law is having a baby, and Deb and her mom held her baby shower Sunday.  So I got a lot of quality time with my Daughter and I have started teaching her to airbrush.  She is picking it up faster than I did. lol   I may let her have a crack at the paint on this one.  My one peeve with this kit is that it is molded in that dark OD green you see in the images.  But the paint needs to be Red and White.  So I will probably end up doing two thin primer coats.

I don't know what the deal is on eBay these last couple of weeks.  All of the F5 kits are going for quite a bit, even the R/M ones.. lol

 

 

 

Bockscar:

 

 

Sparrowhyperion:

 

The Starfighter was a slightly older design.  The F-20 was a response to the US Air Force who had not purchased many of the F5 series due to what they thought were underpowered engines, despite the fact that as a pure fighter/interceptor, it could outperform almost every other comparable aircraft they threw up against it.  The F5 was designed after pilots extolled the maneuverability and speed of the little T-38 Talon trainer.  The F5 all the way up to the E model sold mostly to buyers outside the US.  The F20 was simply an F5E, with better avionics, a slightly heavier capacity, and the same engine as an F16 stuck in the rear instead of the smaller twin engines. 

I'm still waiting for the Primer to arrive, so paint on the Sabre is still on hold.  I may be able to get some primer on this bird tomorrow if gap filling doesn't take too long.

I'm going to have to pick up an F5 and a T38 some time in the future so I have a complete set. lol..

Rich

 

 

Bockscar:

 

Rich;

The Tigershark reminds me of the Starfighter, almost like the next design evolution.

Looks great........how's the painting going......?

 

 

 

Gosh Rich, imagine an F-104 with an F100 plant???....lol...

 

Thanks for the info on TigerShark, one sweet bird awrite!

Yeah, I won my first art contest in 1967, I had bought a Freedom Fighter, and glued the two fuselage halves

onto a big collage. I got sent to the Ontario Finals.......never made a dime.......lol.....

Found my Testors Freedom Fighter......yeah...need the Talon and the Tiger.......

 

 

 

Ouch...chi...hua...hua...

 

I stand corrected......

arf.arf....

The StarFighter is my second favorite airplane......

I always thought J-79 was the big tunnel, 17K+

Annnnd....thks, I didn't realize F-104 was J-79.....

I first saw the F-104 on a packet of colouring pencils back about 1964.

I tried to sweet talk a young girl into a trade,

but I do not blame her......they use likenesses of my face

as pavement all around the globe.

F-104, it really was a 'rocket'.....

luv that plane........

Rich, appreciate the info, that is great.....

oooops....Rich, I didn't mean the F-100 Super Sabre engine....lol....I meant the F100 plant.....lol.....

okay, if we like to get complicated, imagine an F-100 with and F100 plant?...lol....

What is that, 3 times the HP?....anyhow, very motivational, to say the least.

J-57:

By the way Rich, didn't know you were adopted, I didn't realize the guy who through all your kits onto the lawn was the step father. Well, if he's still around, send me his address...lol

Dom

You mean the F100-PW-229...dangit, i hope i didnt set of the manny meter.

Who throws someones kits on the lawn?

Yeh, the old Monogram kit.  I decided to take off the centerline pylon and tank.  It just looks better without them.  I have the cockpit masked now, and I should be good to go for paint as soon as the weather cools down later on  today.

Bockscar

Hey Rich:

Is that F-20 the Mono?...sorry if I missed that.....

Dom

Hey guys sorry if I came off as whiny last night, just that I'm sitting at 99% completion and I want to finish this sucka.