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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:46 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I mounted the boxes to the wing using tape to get an idea of how they are going to look:

Next on the agenda is to start cutting and fitting the fuselage for the Aires cockpit!

Ken

Ken;

Errr...I wouldn't be friend if I didn't mention something, not as a criticism or unsolicited advice, but with all the great resin detail you are putting into this build, have you considered resin wheel wells, or did I miss you discussing that already?

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:58 PM

Gamera

Hello Mike, if it's ok I'm going to call you MikeM to separate you from ScorpyMike. Welcome!!!

BTW: Beautiful sunny pre-hurricane Florida:

On the way down stopped to see the second USS Yorktown:

And the second USN destroyer USS Laffy - who was slammed by seven kamikazes, two bombs and yet refused to die:

Both are moored at Patriot's Point, SC

And if I may yesterday I saw the infamous 'Fiji Mermaid'!

Cliff, that's a great collection of Navy hardware, did you have a chance to get on board?

That is weird, seeing a monkey mermaid on straw. I think I saw a three headed calf once, lying in a bed of sea-weed....Smile

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:04 PM

What's a number bigger than 1300 and less than 1400?

My car repair bill!!!IndifferentIck!Dead

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:29 PM

Dom: ouch! I think a cheap simple car repair is about as common as mermaids.

Yeah both the Yorktown and Laffy are open to tour. There's also the USS Clamagore a WW2 sub though updated to later Cold War specifications. She's open to touring too. There used to be a Coast Guard cutter but apparently she was moved elsewhere.

PT Barnum displayed the 'mermaid' for years as real. Funny as a modern person it's hard not to see a monkey sewed to a fish!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:32 PM

Gamera

Hello Mike, if it's ok I'm going to call you MikeM to separate you from ScorpyMike. Welcome!!!

BTW: Beautiful sunny pre-hurricane Florida:

On the way down stopped to see the second USS Yorktown:

And the second USN destroyer USS Laffy - who was slammed by seven kamikazes, two bombs and yet refused to die:

Both are moored at Patriot's Point, SC

And if I may yesterday I saw the infamous 'Fiji Mermaid'!

Very cool Cliff!  I visited that very same place 10 years ago!  Is the submarine Clamagore still there?  I have a bunch of pictures I took when I was there, but none at night.  Did you go on board and tour them?

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:40 PM

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I mounted the boxes to the wing using tape to get an idea of how they are going to look:

Next on the agenda is to start cutting and fitting the fuselage for the Aires cockpit!

Ken

Ken;

Errr...I wouldn't be friend if I didn't mention something, not as a criticism or unsolicited advice, but with all the great resin detail you are putting into this build, have you considered resin wheel wells, or did I miss you discussing that already?

Dom

Hi Dom,

Thank you for mentioning that Dom!  I actually had that on my list of items to get for this build but forgot to make sure I had everything.  I just dug out everything I had and assumed I had already purchased it all.  Now I have to order it.  It would be silly to not update the wheel wells after doing the auxiliary air intakes!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:42 PM

Bockscar

What's a number bigger than 1300 and less than 1400?

My car repair bill!!!IndifferentIck!Dead

Wow Dom, that hurts!  I don't know what kind of car you are driving or how new it is, but man, that is enough to consider buying another car instead!

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:51 PM

Gamera

Dom: ouch! I think a cheap simple car repair is about as common as mermaids.

Yeah both the Yorktown and Laffy are open to tour. There's also the USS Clamagore a WW2 sub though updated to later Cold War specifications. She's open to touring too. There used to be a Coast Guard cutter but apparently she was moved elsewhere.

PT Barnum displayed the 'mermaid' for years as real. Funny as a modern person it's hard not to see a monkey sewed to a fish!

Well Cliff;

Your earlier words were as true as ever....YaHozzzzAH!...that stings....emphasis on the 'hozzzed' word....

Aaarffff,,,,an obvious fake today...yes...but PT Barnum's adage is as true now as ever.....

We just use 'modern' monkeys and fish these a' days....lol

an' dang....it still works.....lol...MicroSoft.....lol.......Super Angry

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:52 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I mounted the boxes to the wing using tape to get an idea of how they are going to look:

Next on the agenda is to start cutting and fitting the fuselage for the Aires cockpit!

Ken

Ken;

Errr...I wouldn't be friend if I didn't mention something, not as a criticism or unsolicited advice, but with all the great resin detail you are putting into this build, have you considered resin wheel wells, or did I miss you discussing that already?

Dom

Hi Dom,

Thank you for mentioning that Dom!  I actually had that on my list of items to get for this build but forgot to make sure I had everything.  I just dug out everything I had and assumed I had already purchased it all.  Now I have to order it.  It would be silly to not update the wheel wells after doing the auxiliary air intakes!

Ken

Hey Ken, that is gonna' look fab man!!!

Dom

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:26 PM

Ken: yeah that Phantom is going to Phantastic!

Yeah I tromped around on all the ships. And yeah the USS Clamagore is still there, gosh you have to admire those sailers, the sub is like a big boiler filled with machinery. I'd heard they were cramped but gee whiz!

They have a ghost tour of Yorktown now, which was really nice. I was afraid it would be one of these silly haunted house things but was pretty cool story about the men who died on her and various weird events since then. Didn't see any ghosts but I did see a Phantom (F-4) that is!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:54 PM

Bockscar

Hey Ken, that is gonna' look fab man!!!

Dom

Thank you Dom!

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:58 PM

Gamera

Ken: yeah that Phantom is going to Phantastic!

Yeah I tromped around on all the ships. And yeah the USS Clamagore is still there, gosh you have to admire those sailers, the sub is like a big boiler filled with machinery. I'd heard they were cramped but gee whiz!

They have a ghost tour of Yorktown now, which was really nice. I was afraid it would be one of these silly haunted house things but was pretty cool story about the men who died on her and various weird events since then. Didn't see any ghosts but I did see a Phantom (F-4) that is!

Hi Cliff,

Thanks for the compliment!

I toured all three ships but on my own, I did not take a tour to hear any of the stories.  But I did go into every crevice of the Yorktown!  Can you still do that?

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:04 PM

Hi Everyone,

I chopped some more on the fuselage!  The Aires cockpit that I have already completed includes the front instrument panel that is molded into the fuselage shown here:

Here is the Aires part:

 

And here is the fuselage chopped:

Ken 

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:20 PM

If that is the second YorkTown, when did they modify the bow with the widened under-deck bulkheads?

My WWII YorkTown Class YorkTown has a much leaner front end, yeah, and so does my WWII Essex Class Yorktown.Angry

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:42 PM

Oh the Yorktown class Yorktown was first Yorktown and sunk at the Battle of Midway. This was the second carrier. Her bow was beefed up and an angled deck added in 1955 to handle jets like the Grumman Panther. She  fought though Vietnam and was decommissioned in 1970.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:04 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I chopped some more on the fuselage!  The Aires cockpit that I have already completed includes the front instrument panel that is molded into the fuselage shown here:

Ken 

 
Dang. that's gonna look good, Ken!  Keep up the good work!
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:09 PM

Gamera

Oh the Yorktown class Yorktown was first Yorktown and sunk at the Battle of Midway. This was the second carrier. Her bow was beefed up and an angled deck added in 1955 to handle jets like the Grumman Panther. She  fought though Vietnam and was decommissioned in 1970.

Yes, this Yorktown is an Essex-class aircraft carrier.  While it was being built it was going to be named  Bon Homme Richard.  They changed the name when the first Yorktown was sunk.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:03 PM

I have both the original Yorktown Class Yorktown and the Essex class Yorktown, and they don't have that front end.....hmmmm

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:15 PM

Bockscar

I have both the original Yorktown Class Yorktown and the Essex class Yorktown, and they don't have that front end.....hmmmm

Well like Cliff said, they reworked her in 1955, so your version must be before that.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:07 AM

I Hiryu,

I didn't follow the Yorktown's career after WWII. I didn't realize it had such a significant rebuild of the bow, and can't see the angled deck in those pics.

My Essex Class Yorktown doesn't have an angled deck either, that's because it's the WWII version, so no Grumman Panthers either, just Grumman Hellcats and Avengers.

i got my first aircraft carrier back in 1966, it was the original Yorktown Class Yorktown, no Panthers either.

Yeah, I got it along with a book on the Battle of Midway. That was a big read for an eight year old. The crew on the Yorktown extinguished the fire from the first attack so efficiently that the captain of the Nippon sub that targeted it thought it was a third carrier. That messed up their intelligence. Ironic.

I'll have to go and visit her, I love all those 60's era aircraft on her flight deck.

Dom

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:13 AM

Yeah the real thing must be wrong then lol!

I have to say I like the original WW2 look better. On the USS Wisconsin I wish there were funding to remove the Tomahawk missile launchers from her aft decks converting her back to her WW2 specs. Well I guess we're lucky to have anything - both the York and the Whisky could have ended up scrapped like the Enterprise.

One of the first ship kite I ever built was the first Yorktown. Painted her with the old square bottle Testors paints. Think I still have her around someplace.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:02 AM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I chopped some more on the fuselage!  The Aires cockpit that I have already completed includes the front instrument panel that is molded into the fuselage shown here:

Ken 

 
Dang. that's gonna look good, Ken!  Keep up the good work!
 
Russ

Thank you Russ for the compliment!  I really appreciate it!  Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:48 AM

Sorry I haven't been on too much in the last few days.  I had to get two vaccinations (Flu and Pneumonia), and now I am sick as a a dog again.  I have only had a couple of carriers.  The John F. Kennedy, in I think somewhere around 1/600 -1/7020 scale, I can't remember which, and the huge honking U.S.S. Enterprise.  Both were a lot of fun.  I haven't seen the JFK around anywhere for a long time.  And the Big Enterprise is really rare from what I can tell.  I don't do a lot of ships anymore.  Most are way too small scale for me to do. 

Progress on the phantom is starting to shape up.  I'll send images as soon as I can stay vertical long enough to get a decent amount of work done on it.

Rich

Bockscar

I Hiryu,

I didn't follow the Yorktown's career after WWII. I didn't realize it had such a significant rebuild of the bow, and can't see the angled deck in those pics.

My Essex Class Yorktown doesn't have an angled deck either, that's because it's the WWII version, so no Grumman Panthers either, just Grumman Hellcats and Avengers.

i got my first aircraft carrier back in 1966, it was the original Yorktown Class Yorktown, no Panthers either.

Yeah, I got it along with a book on the Battle of Midway. That was a big read for an eight year old. The crew on the Yorktown extinguished the fire from the first attack so efficiently that the captain of the Nippon sub that targeted it thought it was a third carrier. That messed up their intelligence. Ironic.

I'll have to go and visit her, I love all those 60's era aircraft on her flight deck.

Dom

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:53 AM

Sparrowhyperion

Sorry I haven't been on too much in the last few days.  I had to get two vaccinations (Flu and Pneumonia), and now I am sick as a a dog again.  I have only had a couple of carriers.  The John F. Kennedy, in I think somewhere around 1/600 -1/7020 scale, I can't remember which, and the huge honking U.S.S. Enterprise.  Both were a lot of fun.  I haven't seen the JFK around anywhere for a long time.  And the Big Enterprise is really rare from what I can tell.  I don't do a lot of ships anymore.  Most are way too small scale for me to do. 

Progress on the phantom is starting to shape up.  I'll send images as soon as I can stay vertical long enough to get a decent amount of work done on it.

Rich

Bockscar

I Hiryu,

I didn't follow the Yorktown's career after WWII. I didn't realize it had such a significant rebuild of the bow, and can't see the angled deck in those pics.

My Essex Class Yorktown doesn't have an angled deck either, that's because it's the WWII version, so no Grumman Panthers either, just Grumman Hellcats and Avengers.

i got my first aircraft carrier back in 1966, it was the original Yorktown Class Yorktown, no Panthers either.

Yeah, I got it along with a book on the Battle of Midway. That was a big read for an eight year old. The crew on the Yorktown extinguished the fire from the first attack so efficiently that the captain of the Nippon sub that targeted it thought it was a third carrier. That messed up their intelligence. Ironic.

I'll have to go and visit her, I love all those 60's era aircraft on her flight deck.

Dom

I am really sorry to hear you are under the weather Rich.  Sad  I hope you get to feeling better soon! 

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:22 AM

Sparrowhyperion

Sorry I haven't been on too much in the last few days.  I had to get two vaccinations (Flu and Pneumonia), and now I am sick as a a dog again. 

Sorry to hear that, Rich. Hope you get to feeling better soon.

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:13 PM

Gamera

Yeah the real thing must be wrong then lol!

I have to say I like the original WW2 look better. On the USS Wisconsin I wish there were funding to remove the Tomahawk missile launchers from her aft decks converting her back to her WW2 specs. Well I guess we're lucky to have anything - both the York and the Whisky could have ended up scrapped like the Enterprise.

One of the first ship kite I ever built was the first Yorktown. Painted her with the old square bottle Testors paints. Think I still have her around someplace.

Yeah Cliff, the real thing doesn't exist anymore. I am impressed the ship was converted like that to herald in a new age of aircraft. But I agree, I prefer the original design. My guess i the new design with the expanded over-the-bow 'wings' allowed it to ride out storms and massive swells. If you are in weather out at sea and the waves are punching up under your flight deck, you want to be sure it won't be pushed up and off the ship.

Remember Bones walking onto the redesigned Enterprise "Damn engineers......"lol" the new tech stuff really messes with the classic lines, but as you said, we are lucky to have what we have. I wouldn't have minded turning the Enterprise into a Yacht club.

It would be great if you still had the original, mine was burned by a wicked sister. I replaced it about 4 years ago and its in the stacks, I think it was a revel about 1/700 or so scale.

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:24 PM

Rich;

sorry to hear about the side-effects. I've never had a pneumonia shot, but given your susceptibility, that's a good idea.I loved ship kits, all the tons of little boats and guns and fiddly bits....now I hate that stuff. I built the Revell 1/400 enterprise, it's on my book shelf. I cleaned 8 years of dust off it the other day, coulda' built a new one for the time.

I almost have those duct floors cut out, I dug into the plastic when I realized the paper pattern was getting close. I reinforced the actual ducts. i must have dry fit those parts around 17-20 times last night alone. i can hardly wait to build an OOB again.

Get better Rich, winter is coming...

Dom

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:38 PM

Rich: hope you're feeling better soon. I had some sort of sinus krap last week. Could barely get any sleep because some stuff started draining down the back of my throat everytime I laid down. Heck of a way to start a vacation.

Dom: I did pick up a Trumpteter CV-10 Yorktown and the old Tamiya CV-6 Enterprise kit. Not sure if I'll build the second as the Big-E or as the first Yorktown CV-5. Funny it's getting hard to find kits in museum shops like you used to. I guess they don't sell as well.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:57 PM

Bockscar

I almost have those duct floors cut out, I dug into the plastic when I realized the paper pattern was getting close. I reinforced the actual ducts. i must have dry fit those parts around 17-20 times last night alone. i can hardly wait to build an OOB again.

Dom

 
Hang in there, Dom Big Smile.  Show us some pictures of your progress when you can.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:26 PM

Bockscar

Rich;

sorry to hear about the side-effects. I've never had a pneumonia shot, but given your susceptibility, that's a good idea.I loved ship kits, all the tons of little boats and guns and fiddly bits....now I hate that stuff. I built the Revell 1/400 enterprise, it's on my book shelf. I cleaned 8 years of dust off it the other day, coulda' built a new one for the time.

I almost have those duct floors cut out, I dug into the plastic when I realized the paper pattern was getting close. I reinforced the actual ducts. i must have dry fit those parts around 17-20 times last night alone. i can hardly wait to build an OOB again.

Get better Rich, winter is coming...

Dom

Hi Dom,

I hear you on the "I can hardly wait to build an OOB again"!  Although I already promised Don James that I was going to build his F-84E "Hoosier Hotshot" next.  But the one after that will definitely be strictly straight out of the box!  A nice easy Revell kit, like maybe a Zero!

Ken

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