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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, September 17, 2012 12:08 PM

Bob, both RB products you listed are for the Panther.   The barrel length in calibers is 70, and yes this was same gun used for the Jagdpanzer IV/70(A)/(V) tank destroyer.

The official RP site only states it is a different style.  I think I might see a slight difference, although this might be a result of one set of photos being more in focus.  Also to me, product 35B06 looks to have a bit more flatness to the muzzle brake opening.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 17, 2012 10:49 AM

pyrman64

Eric, I'm fine with building as a Wehrmacht kitty.

No Greg, by all means build it in captured mode. The vehicle still classifies as a Panther no matter who ran it.

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 Eric 

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Monday, September 17, 2012 8:39 AM

JOE RIX

The problem I had is that the barrel came with no instructions on how to assemble it. Found the instructions to Armorscale's Barrel which is nearly identical. My question though is how to glue it together? It suggests soldering but that is not much an option for me. Mabe some CA or epoxy?

 
JOE RIX:  I know what you mean, I don't know why they assume we understand how to assemble a multi-piece barrel!  No need to solder though.  In fact, the barrel I used for my Tiger Initial had such a snug fit I probably could have left it alone.  I recall using a TINY bit of CA though just  to ensure it wouldn't move. 
 
BTW: Keep the kit barrel handy, it'll help you double check the shape/ length of the aluminum barrel and get the muzzle openings angle (rotation) correct.  I even used the box art to check where the little divots near the middle of the barrel went.
 
 

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Posted by pyrman64 on Monday, September 17, 2012 7:19 AM

Eric, I'm fine with building as a Wehrmacht kitty.

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 17, 2012 12:52 AM

Hope to see you soon Ernest.

I was hoping to have some update photos, but I got lazy. I almost have the upper hull finished. I'm working on the gun. My goal now is to have paint laid down next weekend. Still, progressing forward.

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 Eric 

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, September 17, 2012 12:22 AM

Hey guys, I just wanted to stop in and say what great work is going on here! Yes  I had to put the four little kittens back on the shelf until I finish up another GB.  I should be back feeding the kitties in a couple of weeks!  

Ernest

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:48 PM

Well Greg, to keep it in the spirit of things, probably the former. However, I suppose you could do it in the latter. ;)

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 Eric 

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Posted by pyrman64 on Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:17 PM

Ok....another query: Do the Stahl Katzen have to have Wehrmacht/SS markings or can they be in captured livery?

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:54 PM

Eric-both of the barrels listed have a muzzle....I can't really tell the difference looking at the pics...but I agree about thinking about the Jagdpanzer when I hear L/70.

Bob

 

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:13 PM

Oyyy Bob. When I hear L/70, I think Jagdpanzer IV Late. However, i think they carried the same barrel, but the Panther's had a muzzle.

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 Eric 

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:07 PM

M/TB379-the Zim looks great.....can't wait to see it with paint. 

Gamera-that is one nice KT-looking forward to seeing camo on it.

Both rooms have been painted-hopefully I can spend some time on the Panther this week.

Question for the group-for a Panther Late G, which barrel would be correct:

75mm KwK 42 (RB Model 35B06)...or...

75mm KwK 42 L/70 (RB Model 35B60)

Thinking about ordering from the eBay vendor listed earlier in the post , sk1968sk

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:15 PM

pyrman64

is it too late to get in on this GB?  I have a Tamiya Steel wheel Panther G up in the closet.

Not at all Greg. Would love to have you and your Panther. I don't believe anyone is doing a steel-wheeled version. Nice. No need for zimmerit either.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:42 AM

Thanks guys!

And Mike, she's looking good! I'm really starting to like this pre-cut zimmerit!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:43 AM

Today's progress -- main zim sheets done and fenders on:

 

Some more dressing parts to go, a bit more filling and prodding, and it'll be time to see what the zim looks like under some paint...

M/TB379

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Posted by pyrman64 on Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:31 AM

is it too late to get in on this GB?  I have a Tamiya Steel wheel Panther G up in the closet.

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:37 AM

Cliff you are flying thru that build. Zimm looks great.

Thanks guys for the tips. Jack, the shipping was just $2.50 for the shipping IIRC. Not bad.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:00 AM

Wow, oh shelled one, you're really cracking on! The indie links along take a lot of time and effort. Great looking KT!

M/TB379

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:40 AM

Well, here's what I've gotten done so far:

Main gun, not sure why I painted it since with the figures in the hatches you won't be able to see anything- but what the hey- just did it for the halibut I suppose:

Shot from the side, as you can tell the thread links still need some work:

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:34 PM

JadarHobby in Poland is a shop I've ordered from quite often.  Eric, I don't know what price and shipping you have found on Ebay, but on the mentioned site I get $6.68 for the tow cables and shipping would be $6.89 - US currency.

http://www.jadarhobby.pl/karaya-tcr02-towing-cable-for-pzvi-tiger-135-p-959.html

regards,

Jack

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:36 PM

Eric - sk1968sk is who I have ordered from on a few occasions and is an excellent seller. That is where I got my metal barrel, cables and metal shackles. He threw in a PE bucket and antenna for free. As for shipping from Poland I would consider him quick. My orders have arrived within 2 weeks. Joe

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Hasenpfeffer on Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:07 PM

It was fine, albeit much slower than say, ordering from Sprue Bros on Tue afternoon and getting the stuff on Thursday... It took 1.5 - 2 weeks, came registered priority mail. Only difference was it had a lot of Polish stamps on it. Packaged nicely, and the seller even included a length of brass chain as a little bonus. Nice touch anyway. Helped defray that shipping cost some. Always hard to swallow shipping when it increases the cost by 30% - lower prices help too.

(You may even be looking at the same seller since I saw that he has Karaya cables in his eBay store area... sk1968sk?)

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:42 PM

How was your shipping experience with Poland? My Karaya cables are sold from Poland also. I'm thinking of getting them.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Hasenpfeffer on Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:23 AM

Well, I will admit the ATAK zimm set I purchased was more expensive than the similar Cavalier one, but I found it for $22 (eBay) and had to pay $10 in shipping from Poland, but still way short of $45. (Maybe the set I ordered?) I cannot comment on which is better since this is my first experience with AM zimmerit. The sheets are relatively thick and require some careful sanding of the backside before application. The first pieces I put on look too thick to me.

- I have a very old Italeri Panther A in my stash that I may try the Cavalier zimm on in the future. Anything has to be better than the plastic panels they provide.

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Posted by corvettemike on Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:07 AM

That ATAK stuff is way outta my league. On Ebay I'm seeing $45 pricetags on it vs &15-20 for the cavalier plain sheets. Think I'll just grab a pack of that so I can custom trim it to my cutouts.

Rise my brothers we are blessed by steel in my sword I trust...

Arm yourselves the truth shall be revealed In my sword I trust...

Havoc Models

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:52 AM

Mike -- if going with a custom hull configuration, my tip would be a Cavalier generic sheet -- best the value for money, easy to use, and you'll get far more in the pack than the project will call for. It's miles easier to modify than PE would ever be, and a darn sight cheaper than Atak.

M/TB379

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Posted by corvettemike on Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:42 AM

O.K. I'm officially in on this GB. Got Academy's Tiger I mid production on it's way in the mail, the one with the PE and full interior since it's coming from So. Korea they say it should arrive around the 1st week of next month. Question about that kit: I won't lie the thought of zimmerit gives me night terrors so I'm looking at different sets. What's best Cavalier, ATAK, PE? And of the pre made sets most say "for Tamiya" , will they fit the Academy or since I'm planning to hack holes in the hull and build it as a cut-away should I stick to the Cavalier generic pattern sheet so I can cut my own templates?

Rise my brothers we are blessed by steel in my sword I trust...

Arm yourselves the truth shall be revealed In my sword I trust...

Havoc Models

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:31 AM

Moose - Thanks for the assurance.

Eric - Sound advice indeed. I'm in the same boat as you as far as bench time. I work a full time job and a part time job plus other obligations leaves me little bench time. Yet, although crunched for time I still take it slow, think things through, test everything and take time to practice.

                                                              Joe 

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:04 AM

Hi KC -- Cavalier make four generic sheets, IIRC. "Standard:" pattern, waffle pattern, tile pattern and one other, all for 1:35, and between those they have most subjects covered. They don't have a set designed specifically for Tamiya's Jadgpangther retool, so I would be using a generic sheet for that one...

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:29 AM

Nice work!! You guys are getting way ahead of me.

One question.

That Cavalier "generic sheet", can it be made to cover any German tank?

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:17 AM

Take it nice and slow Joe.

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 Eric 

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